What is your favourite fantasy race/creature?

What is your favourite fantasy race/creature?


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Anonjohn20

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It's like saying Thor is not a Marvel character because he exists in Norse mythology.
That's a really poor analogy, but I suppose that's the best you can do. Thor can exist in any fictional story or mythology. A slightly better analogy would be to consider an onion a type of meat because it exists in dishes that have meat in them. In the same way that the onion is not meat, a human is not a fantasy race.

Lamia/naga are my absolute favorite fantasy race, with cecaelia/octopus-girls and arachne a close second.
Excellent choices.

Winepeople?
She is a species that survives on only ketchup. LOL
 

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I am obsessed with dragons.

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That's a really poor analogy, but I suppose that's the best you can do. Thor can exist in any fictional story or mythology. A slightly better analogy would be to consider an onion meat because it exists in dishes that have meat in them. In the same way that the onion is not meat, a human is not a fantasy race.
You could have done without the insult, thanks.

I know it's not a great analogy, but I'm purposefully exaggerating to show the point. You, on the other hand, you're missing my point and purposefully making up an obviously stupid analogy that doesn't answer anything I wrote.

Just like Thor can exist in any fictional story or mythology (this is not what I wrote but whatever), humans can exist in any fictional story or mythology. However, in any of those interpretations, Thor is not the same and humans are not the same. There's different history, different world that shape humans differently in any story you come across.

Humans in, say, Warhammer universe. They are humans, sure - but can you honestly say they are real humans, the same that live on Earth? They are not, flat out, not up to interpretation, because it's the fortieth millenium and the humans changed both because of time, and because of everything that universe has that our universe does not. In that universe, they can definitely be called a fantasy race, and this isn't even an extreme example.

If you don't like my first example, I'll give you a second one. A fairly common creature in fantasy (particularly in games) is a giant rat. Some of them reach meters in length, but most of them are smaller, like the size of a big dog. Tell me please, whether that is a fantasy creature or not, and if it is, at what size does it become one.

The damn thing is, you can't draw a hard line without specifying what that giant rat is in much greater detail. But it is clear that at some point it is not real and has to be a fantasy creature, because a rat the size of a house is not a real thing, hence it is imaginary and falls under the broad umbrella of fantasy.

You're free to say that humans are not a fantasy race either generally, or in specific cases. But humans is just a concept; they are not the same in all fantasy, and at some point there are very good reasons to say they are a fantasy race. Flat out denying it is dismissive and negligent at best.
 

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A stubborn one.
Just like Thor can exist in any fictional story or mythology (this is not what I wrote but whatever)...
You wrote that I was claiming that because he's in Norse mythology that he can't be in Marvel. It was a really pathetic analogy of someone who misunderstood what I was saying. I never claimed that humans shouldn't be in fantasy stories, just that they aren't fantasy races.

Humans in, say, Warhammer universe. They are humans, sure - but can you honestly say they are real humans, the same that live on Earth?
In that world, there are superhumans affected by a genome seed (that's a fantasy) and there are regular humans (not a fantasy race). It's pretty simple.

Giant rat... size of dog... Tell me please, whether that is a fantasy creature or not
It is.

purposefully making up an obviously stupid analogy that doesn't answer anything I wrote.
Mine made sense, yours didn't. Feel free to cry harder.

if it is, at what size does it become one.
When it isn't something that's real and had to be conjured up by the author's amazing imagination to be visualized by the reader's amazing imagination.

you can't draw a hard line without specifying what that giant rat is in much greater detail.
I just did.

But it is clear that at some point it is not real and has to be a fantasy creature
If its not real, then yes. Humans are real, and so are regular-sized rats.

a rat the size of a house is not a real thing, hence it is imaginary and falls under the broad umbrella of fantasy.
Correct, unlike a normal rat.

You're free to say that humans are not a fantasy race either...
Because regular humans aren't. Genetically modified superhumans are, but that was never my argument; you just moved the goalpost when your awful analogy was called out.

there are very good reasons to say they are a fantasy race.
Nah.
 

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You wrote that I was claiming that because he's in Norse mythology that he can't be in Marvel. It was a really pathetic analogy of someone who misunderstood what I was saying. I never claimed that humans shouldn't be in fantasy stories, just that they aren't fantasy races.
I did not write any of that. You're putting words into my mouth and arguing against them.

In that world, there are superhumans affected by a genome seed (that's a fantasy) and there are regular humans (not a fantasy race). It's pretty simple.
If I was thinking about the Space Marines, I would have written about Space Marines. I wrote about humans, and I meant humans. Again, arguing against something I did not write.

Because regular humans aren't. Genetically modified superhumans are, but that was never my argument; you just moved the goalpost when your awful analogy was called out.
I didn't move no goalpost. My take is the same from the very beginning, that the fact humans exist irl doesn't mean they are not a fantasy race. Because that's what you said at the very beginning, that only supernatural, magical, and imaginary things are fantasy. My point is that you cannot pretend humans in stories are the exact same thing as real humans - that difference might be very subtle, like between real rats and 10% larger rats, but it's there.

You're picking out fragments from what I'm writing and answering halfs and thirds of my sentences, instead of understanding the whole.

Also, insults will take you nowhere.

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Anonjohn20

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My drama radar is pointing toward you two. It's unacceptable, no drama at the beginning of the year. I forbid you from continuing this topic.
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Its been a rough start. Santa didn't give me a GF willing to peg me because I'm poor, so my asshole remains unpunished. My favorite fantasy race are all the creatures with futa/herm genders: gnolls, slime-girls, tree-girls, etc.
 

Anonjohn20

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a rat the size of a house
10% larger rats
Sure, man. You're not being disingenuous in your bad arguments. Clearly, I'm making everything up. lol, cry harder.

answering halfs and thirds of my sentences
I had to dissect each point separately. You tend to call what you don't understand stupid (as seen below), so I'm trying to not confuse you.
making up an obviously stupid analogy


the fact humans exist irl doesn't mean they are not a fantasy race.
And my first analogy proved/explained they aren't a fantasy race. Here I'll post it again.
A slightly better analogy would be to consider an onion a type of meat because it exists in dishes that have meat in them. In the same way that the onion is not meat, a human is not a fantasy race.
 

LilRora

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@anonjohn20 I'll give it to you in points.

1. Yes, you are right, I do not understand your analogy. I call it stupid because I have attempted to understand it, and I do not see how it is related to the subject. What are the onion, meat, and dish supposed to represent? A human, a fantasy race, and story? So, humans are a type of fantasy race because they exist in stories that have fantasy races in them? That is obviously not true - like you wrote - but I don't see how this is related to my argument.

2. An analogy does not explain anything, nor does it prove anything. An analogy is supposed to aid in explaining something, and most certainly cannot be used a proof.

3. If you think your analogy is not stupid, explain it to me, instead of insulting me and repeating it like I haven't seen it the first time.
 

Anonjohn20

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Yes, you are right, I do not understand your analogy.
explain it to me
The onions in the analogy represent humans; just as there can be onions in a meat dish, there can also be humans in a fantasy story. However, adding onions to a dish with meat doesn't mean the onions are now meat in the same way that just because there are humans in a fantasy story doesn't mean humans are a fantasy race.

Your Thor analogy...
It's like saying Thor is not a Marvel character because he exists in Norse mythology.
...was garbage because you're implying that I claimed that humans don't belong in a fantasy setting. I never said that at all.

I didn't change the subject; you did.


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Horny response: Ratgirls
Prehensile tails are kind of hot.
 

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Its been a rough start. Santa didn't give me a GF willing to peg me because I'm poor, so my asshole remains unpunished. My favorite fantasy race are all the creatures with futa/herm genders: gnolls, slime-girls, tree-girls, etc.
I wish @owotrucked was willing to break his new years resolution for you.
 
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