Is it acceptable to use ai for enhancing the vocab?

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So first off, Im not a native English speaker...
I want to get into writing something but I know that what I write will feel blocky, a little unnatural and maybe too much like bullet points
So I was thinking of writing something and then have gpt or something similar enhance the thing to read better

I've noticed though that a lot of people have aversion to ai

Do y'all think I should have the ai help me or just upload my uh...lets just say not so great piece of work
 

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You can actually ask GPT to review your writing and where you can improve... or just ask us!

Sure, you can use AI to refine things here and there, but try and learn to write on your own sometimes, you'll be shocked at how fast you can improve if you put your mind to it!
 

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So first off, Im not a native English speaker...
I want to get into writing something but I know that what I write will feel blocky, a little unnatural and maybe too much like bullet points
So I was thinking of writing something and then have gpt or something similar enhance the thing to read better

I've noticed though that a lot of people have aversion to ai

Do y'all think I should have the ai help me or just upload my uh...lets just say not so great piece of work
why are you writing what you write? are you looking to improve? then I would suggest asking the ai what to improve, why, how, and what other suggestions does it have for each sentence. improvement comes with practice and introspection

if you are writing to produce, ai is a good option. It'd increase your productivity immensely. though content generated by ai is identifiable and is not the most creative. there are easily noticeable patters with any ai you're going to use. heavy usage would make your content very generic
 

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In essence, if you're using it like you'd use grammarly, then it's probably fine.

As long as you're using AI as an assistant, rather than a co-author, then there isn't that much of a problem. You shouldn't ever just do what your assistant says, you evaluate what they advise before implementing it. The assistant is there to do the legwork of finding information you're looking for.

You want alternative dialogue ideas? Great, have it suggest a few, read them, then use it as a framework to redo the dialogue yourself.

You need to find a starting point on research for the medieval diet? Ask it to give you that info with sources. Read them, and determine what you want.

I did a test once to see how well it could come up with where my story should go next. The results were... uninspiring at best, and downright awful at worst. However, I do use it to speed along my own research on topics by having it give me sources to dig in on details for things I need more insight into, and that seems to work reasonably well (make sure you check the sources though, because sometimes it just lies.)
 

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If the words are your own, even if the word CHOICES may not be, it should be fine. If you're just using the AI to fix holes in the story or even do the bulk of the work, then that is not a good thing.
 

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Yeah I'm basically using gpt like grammarly
Like I write the best as I can and then I'll ask it to help me see what's wrong
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Ohk so it should be fine if I use it as my glorified editor then
why are you writing what you write? are you looking to improve? then I would suggest asking the ai what to improve, why, how, and what other suggestions does it have for each sentence. improvement comes with practice and introspection

if you are writing to produce, ai is a good option. It'd increase your productivity immensely. though content generated by ai is identifiable and is not the most creative. there are easily noticeable patters with any ai you're going to use. heavy usage would make your content very generic
A little bit of both?
I've always wanted to write something but never got the time till recently...so I thought up something that I could write

The problem lies that even though the story might flow well and everything, my writing is more like bullet points that foretell what happens

So I'm trying to improve that whilst weaving my story

My best bet for an editor is ai cause of the time I have but I wanted to make sure using it like an editor and beta reader was ok
 
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Yeah I'm basically using gpt like grammarly
Like I write the best as I can and then I'll ask it to help me see what's wrong

Ohk so it should be fine if I use it as my glorified editor then

A little bit of both?
I've always wanted to write something but never got the time till recently...so I thought up something that I could write

The problem lies that even though the story might flow well and everything, my writing is more like bullet points that foretell what happens

So I'm trying to improve that whilst weaving my story

My best bet for an editor is ai cause of the time I have but I wanted to make sure using it like an editor and beta reader was ok
So... You said you're not a native speaker, right?

Why not play around with the vocabulary you're used to and make 4 lines of paragraph and see if all you have to say is enough to explain a scene? Then, add some spice to it. Even better suggestion, try to write a scene in your mother language and then roughly translate it to English, and finally, refine the scene by searching for the right words to put into.

Here's an example:

A Saturday, a relaxing day.
Kids walk their way down to the school, chanting nursery rhymes.
The Mailman sang a song along with them, before parting away throwing newspaper from house-to-house.
From one of the houses came out a man holding a cup of coffee, grabbing the newspaper perched on his terrace.
He takes a few steps before sitting on the chair, gently lying the cup on the coffee table.
Looking to his right, a neighbor of his - An old lady in her 60s - greets him with a smile and a compliment.
He returns the favor with a warm and welcoming wave.

Right after that, a hobo knocks on the lady's house's fence before entering.
He held a bag full of groceries.
He placed the bag on top of the yard bench before handing the old lady a change.
With a sweet smile, the lady stands up from the bench, rejecting the change.
She grabs the bag and pats the hobo man on the back, entering her house afterward.
With that, the hobo man thanked the lady and left the yard. He felt grateful.
He felt like this was the best day to have happened in the suburbia complex.
And... He was right.

God has seen them suffer with their activities, some even drown deeply in sorrow.
So today, god let them forget those feelings.
They earned it. They deserve the day off before having to cope with life for another long time.
 

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Just make sure to learn the meaning of any words or synonyms the AI coughs up before you use them.
 

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Yeah there is nothing wrong with being short and direct. Long complicated sentence structure doesn't make it better just verbose.
 

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So... You said you're not a native speaker, right?

Why not play around with the vocabulary you're used to and make 4 lines of paragraph and see if all you have to say is enough to explain a scene? Then, add some spice to it. Even better suggestion, try to write a scene in your mother language and then roughly translate it to English, and finally, refine the scene by searching for the right words to put into.

Here's an example:

A Saturday, a relaxing day.
Kids walk their way down to the school, chanting nursery rhymes.
The Mailman sang a song along with them, before parting away throwing newspaper from house-to-house.
From one of the houses came out a man holding a cup of coffee, grabbing the newspaper perched on his terrace.
He takes a few steps before sitting on the chair, gently lying the cup on the coffee table.
Looking to his right, a neighbor of his - An old lady in her 60s - greets him with a smile and a compliment.
He returns the favor with a warm and welcoming wave.

Right after that, a hobo knocks on the lady's house's fence before entering.
He held a bag full of groceries.
He placed the bag on top of the yard bench before handing the old lady a change.
With a sweet smile, the lady stands up from the bench, rejecting the change.
She grabs the bag and pats the hobo man on the back, entering her house afterward.
With that, the hobo man thanked the lady and left the yard. He felt grateful.
He felt like this was the best day to have happened in the suburbia complex.
And... He was right.

God has seen them suffer with their activities, some even drown deeply in sorrow.
So today, god let them forget those feelings.
They earned it. They deserve the day off before having to cope with life for another long time.
So the thing is, I've read a lot of books... I like to think my vocabulary itself is not bad but I never have the chance to use those words like ever, so I either forget they exist until I hear of them again or maybe never hear them again.
At this point I know a lot of words but as I've never spoke of them I don't even know how to say them
Hence why I wasn't miffed of using ai generated words cause I was pretty sure I'd know whatever it spouted...its just it would take me longer to find the word I want to use
 

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So the thing is, I've read a lot of books... I like to think my vocabulary itself is not bad but I never have the chance to use those words like ever, so I either forget they exist until I hear of them again or maybe never hear them again.
At this point I know a lot of words but as I've never spoke of them I don't even know how to say them
Hence why I wasn't miffed of using ai generated words cause I was pretty sure I'd know whatever it spouted...its just it would take me longer to find the word I want to use
I know how you feel.

I know what the words "perplexed" and "in awe" mean, but when writing, I could only pull out "confused" or "surprised/amazed".

My only advice to you regarding that problem is to write more yourself. You need to get into the mindset of a native speaker.

First, write the first draft, where you write the scene to the best of your abilities with the vocabulary you can pull out as long as the scene is complete, no matter how barebones it is.

After that, edit that draft. Think of words that might feel better in the sentences as you read them aloud with your own voice. Add variety, avoid repetition, make it flavorful.

For example: "She opened the door slowly." -> "She nudged the door open."

I know my advice is too vague/broad, but I hope it helps. Good luck!

Side tip: If you go with the AI route, be aware that AI prose is often flowery... too flowery.
 

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I know how you feel.

I know what the words "perplexed" and "in awe" mean, but when writing, I could only pull out "confused" or "surprised/amazed".

My only advice to you regarding that problem is to write more yourself. You need to get into the mindset of a native speaker.

First, write the first draft, where you write the scene to the best of your abilities with the vocabulary you can pull out as long as the scene is complete, no matter how barebones it is.

After that, edit that draft. Think of words that might feel better in the sentences as you read them aloud with your own voice. Add variety, avoid repetition, make it flavorful.

For example: "She opened the door slowly." -> "She nudged the door open."

I know my advice is too vague/broad, but I hope it helps. Good luck!

Side tip: If you go with the AI route, be aware that AI prose is often flowery... too flowery.
Thank you for the advice
It helps quite a bit, actually.
I'll try to do it that way whenever I have enough time
 

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Honestly, look up synonyms and antonyms for verbs and other stuff. Google for other words. Like if you want a character to say something else than relax. Type up the synonyms for it.
 

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So the thing is, I've read a lot of books... I like to think my vocabulary itself is not bad but I never have the chance to use those words like ever, so I either forget they exist until I hear of them again or maybe never hear them again.
At this point I know a lot of words but as I've never spoke of them I don't even know how to say them
Hence why I wasn't miffed of using ai generated words cause I was pretty sure I'd know whatever it spouted...its just it would take me longer to find the word I want to use
I face the same problem too, buddy.
I cope with it tho, and I'm pretty satisfied with what I've done.

Crimson got some good advice, look for the synonyms of the words. Hell, try the thesaurus of Merriam-Webster. I've been going back and forth the website to find the meaning I was looking for.
 

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Ah i just find it faster to ask gpt for the word I'm finding for than waste time looking for it here and there
Odds are that I already know the word and how to use it, just forgot the word itself
 

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Yeah I'm basically using gpt like grammarly
Like I write the best as I can and then I'll ask it to help me see what's wrong

Ohk so it should be fine if I use it as my glorified editor then

A little bit of both?
I've always wanted to write something but never got the time till recently...so I thought up something that I could write

The problem lies that even though the story might flow well and everything, my writing is more like bullet points that foretell what happens

So I'm trying to improve that whilst weaving my story

My best bet for an editor is ai cause of the time I have but I wanted to make sure using it like an editor and beta reader was ok
its a double edged sword. you'll produce more but your skills will deteriorate over time
Ah i just find it faster to ask gpt for the word I'm finding for than waste time looking for it here and there
Odds are that I already know the word and how to use it, just forgot the word itself
thats fine
 
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