English onomatopoeia suck massive hotdogs.

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I am reading a NSFW manga for career purposes when I got taken aback and flaccid because of how the character onomatopoeia-ed.

Loud crying is "waaaaa" and soft crying is sob

*Turns book*
Did I miss a page?
No. Oh my fucking days that's it lads, that's all they god, otherwise they'd hiccup

Impact sound had like thud, other wise you have to write the verb like slam or make up some 1900 comic book sound like boosh pwaak, bawooh

And correct me if I'm wrong but y'all only have hehe and haha as laughter?? Okay now look at me with a straight face, dead in the eye and tell me how would you tackle a cute character giggling without sounding like an ass or spend 10 words.

Are y'all genuinely happy with your life?
Yeah no sorry I shouldn't ask that on a writer forum.

I don't want to flex but in my language ?? I can count 3 different usable and comfortable sounding onomatopoeia for crying that's not a verb.

My solution as president of 2025? Normalise more, use more, have your reader accept more.

I can't pioneer because I'm literally the worst writer that's going to be posting here. But for all goodness gracious scrumptious sake. Try "uuuuuuuw" as a girl making regretting noise.

Try hic as a sound, like hiccup, but it's more of a throat sound thing, try to somehow make a "he (like the pro noun) without using the letter e because it looks mischevious af.

MAKE ONOMATOPOEIA GREAT AGAIN, LUOIR FOR PRESIDENT.
 

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I am reading a NSFW manga for career purposes when I got taken aback and flaccid because of how the character onomatopoeia-ed.

Loud crying is "waaaaa" and soft crying is sob

*Turns book*
Did I miss a page?
No. Oh my fucking days that's it lads, that's all they god, otherwise they'd hiccup

Impact sound had like thud, other wise you have to write the verb like slam or make up some 1900 comic book sound like boosh pwaak, bawooh

And correct me if I'm wrong but y'all only have hehe and haha as laughter?? Okay now look at me with a straight face, dead in the eye and tell me how would you tackle a cute character giggling without sounding like an ass or spend 10 words.

Are y'all genuinely happy with your life?
Yeah no sorry I shouldn't ask that on a writer forum.

I don't want to flex but in my language ?? I can count 3 different usable and comfortable sounding onomatopoeia for crying that's not a verb.

My solution as president of 2025? Normalise more, use more, have your reader accept more.

I can't pioneer because I'm literally the worst writer that's going to be posting here. But for all goodness gracious scrumptious sake. Try "uuuuuuuw" as a girl making regretting noise.

Try hic as a sound, like hiccup, but it's more of a throat sound thing, try to somehow make a "he (like the pro noun) without using the letter e because it looks mischevious af.

MAKE ONOMATOPOEIA GREAT AGAIN, LUOIR FOR PRESIDENT.
Sounds like you're just reading very bad smut. English Onomatopoeia is very broad, but you happen to be reading something that sounds like it is making poor use of the English language. Find something better.
 

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Sounds like you're just reading very bad smut. English Onomatopoeia is very broad, but you happen to be reading something that sounds like it is making poor use of the English language. Find something better.
Maybe yeah thx
 

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Okay now look at me with a straight face, dead in the eye and tell me how would you tackle a cute character giggling without sounding like an ass or spend 10 words.
She giggled, Luoir, she giggled.

There's a lot of various onomatopeia in English, but it's often difficult to tell what they refer to if readers aren't accustomed to them. Trying to change that would be a ton of effort for uncertain results.
 

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She giggled, Luoir, she giggled.

There's a lot of various onomatopeia in English, but it's often difficult to tell what they refer to if readers aren't accustomed to them. Trying to change that would be a ton of effort for uncertain results.
Conflicts and revolutions are necessary for humanity's development

But, don't you ever write a dialogue after writing she giggled? Will you skip over the sound entirely? I think we're all too accustomed to English current state of onomatopoeia to think about a better future for our children here
 

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Conflicts and revolutions are necessary for humanity's development

But, don't you ever write a dialogue after writing she giggled? Will you skip over the sound entirely? I think we're all too accustomed to English current state of onomatopoeia to think about a better future for our children here
Yeah? If I do write that she giggled, it usually looks like this:

"Okaaay, but look at this," She giggled, turning around to show the screen. "Isn't it ridiculous?"

Depending on the situation, I'll have dialogue on both sides, on one side, or sometimes none at all.
 

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But, don't you ever write a dialogue after writing she giggled? Will you skip over the sound entirely? I think we're all too accustomed to English current state of onomatopoeia to think about a better future for our children here
The better future for our children here is even less of them.

You tell me with a straight face that toddler language is a meaningful addition to textual communication between adults.
 

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TL;DR You mixed up onomatopoeia and sound phrases, but you did actually already answer everything you asked yourself but just didn't articulate the solution

There's a lot I want to say.

But, I will leave with only this

You mention your language having:
3 different usable and comfortable sounding onomatopoeia for crying that's not a verb
While leaving the implication on the table that English doesn't have 3 or more usable and comfortable sounding onomatopoeia for crying. And like, yeah, if English isn't your primary language, it probably doesn't. But even if we ignore that, you use the word comfortable, which implies you are judging this purely subjectively for what you like and thus the 'usable' part is discarded from the equation. Also, the 'usable' part. I don't want to be the one to say this, but anything is usable, so if you're judging solely how comfortable it is to you, maybe, just maybe, do some reflection on the nature of subjectivity in linguistics.

Next, 'that is not a verb', which is, in a phrase, not applicable to the discussion. Because you mention 'hehe' and 'haha', which are not onomatopoeia. They're just sounds expressed as phrases. Sorry to burst the bubble on that. Onomatopoeia are (generally, in English, and with multiple exceptions) simple present verbs that imitate or represent the sounds they're associated with. You may note that in English at least, any simple present verb can be made onomatopoeic by having the reader establish the connection to the sound you want to be associated. Some are pretty obvious and pretty common, 'Cackle cackle', 'giggle', 'menace', 'grumble', 'murmur'. Some are rare but very interesting, 'Teeter', 'Waffle', 'Bounce'. These are onomatopoeia.

If, perhaps, the thing you want to complain about is not having enough pre-established sounds expressed as phrases, I'm afraid I need to burst your bubble an additional time. Literally any series of English characters is a sound expressed as a phrase. That's what languages are. You clearly know that, because you mentioned uuuuuw as being some sort of sound for a girl regretting something, which is creative and interesting, and demonstrates that you know how to solve the problem you're complaining about, but you then choose to present possible sound phrases without articulating the solution you clearly came to.

So, as a hand of assistance, you did in fact find the solution to finding more sound phrases, you just didn't know the difference between sound phrases and onomatopoeia and didn't choose to actually articulate the solution to finding more sound phrases beyond a... demonstration of the sound the letter h is associated with...

Good post, a worthy discussion to have.

Okay now look at me with a straight face, dead in the eye and tell me how would you tackle a cute character giggling without sounding like an ass or spend 10 words
Sound Phrase: teheehee
Onomatopoeia: 'giggle giggle'
Description: Laughter like rapidly stifled exhales (Half of allotted word budget, all commonly used words and describes the sound accurately).
Alt Desc: A series of cute and soft breathy laughs (80% of allotted word budget, includes description of narrators opinion and accurate depiction of sound made)
Pretention dickass Desc: A sound like a small animal dying repeatedly (needs no explanation).

I had fun coming up with elegant solutions to the description part.

Also, Sauce?
 

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Also, Sauce?
Sugoku Zuko (hentai artist specializing in shota male x male dub-con) latest translated work on nhentai, about a pair of siblings in an ABO world
 
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