How does the Scribble hub (Forum) moderation and banning process works or doesn't

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this thread is made in relation to the accusation that the moderation team favours one political leaning and tries to only prosecute users of the other political leaning.

Do you think it's true?


So this is from someone who has been swimming under the gaze of shf and nuf moderation since 2016.

This I learned it from casual conversations with mods over the years...To put it simply... this forum uses a "report" and "tally" system.

If a person keeps breaking rules and no one ever reports them the mods will never catch them nor ever ban them.

If one thinks there is some kind of bias in the mind of the mod, I think there is a misconception here.

People getting banned for breaking rules on shf like on nuf are not isolated events but a result of a chain of behavioral history.

For example. (This is an example Any resemblance to actual persons, places or events is purely coincidental.)

Lets say both T and P were having an argument. Both said words and behaved in a way that could be reported as abusive

The thread was locked and if posts were reported both users would have gotten a red mark in some moderator spreadsheet.

Since then P has not engaged in other arguments with T, and has not been very active on the forum.

But then T gets into another argument on another thread with idk, someone called Q, T end up calling people "Wookiees" saying all woke, all feminist and LGBTQ people should be rounded up and burned alive.

Whatever Q says in return even with bad name-calling, that would only land them one warning, and T would be their second warning.

That... on top of T's daily spam of NSFW images with his clone account's profile page, even if the posts are posted and then deleted. If caught and reported that would earn him more warning points.

That would eventually rack up and get T banned or perma banned but not P or Q. While banning people that hurl abuse at the "woke" and LGBTQ community is a right-wing narrative, the act of T being banned and not the others is a cold hard numeric not inherently political.
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I have seen lots of people being banned over the years, but by far they have been bad people not because of their religion or political leaning, they were terrible people with problematic personalities. And they dial up their terribleness at people who disagree with their worldview.

I could do a leftwing example, about a person who raved about too much racism and misogyny on SH and gets into fights, but I am tired.

Also, I think (not sure) people don't just rack up warning points on the forum, people get those on the main site harassing authors and commenters.

That is what I understand of the mod system. Correct me if I am wrong,


TLDR
People who break rules repeatedly get reported get banned
People get banned for being assholes who don't read the rules or feel they are above it, not because of politics.
Warning points are indiscriminate of political leanings. They just follow the rules.
Some people are just more abusive more often.

@Tony There you go.

@ZukoMee feel free to call out Tony from what your friends have said.
*gesture vaguely* I have set the stage for you.

:blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn:

P.S I believe I have gotten 2 warnings in my long career, don't remember for what tho.
 
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Hans.Trondheim

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Imma say this; got myself suspended here once, partly as a protest for the light moderation of the forum, and largely I think staying here at the forum just isn't worth it anymore.

And it was pretty fast too. I purposefully posted NSFW illustrations I made in my profile, and got into three strikes before getting the suspension for a week.

Now some may ask what am I still doing here when I think it's not worth it? I still have friends here; I'm here for them. The others (especially the assholes) can go fck themselves.
 

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So this is from someone who has been swimming under the gaze of shf and nuf moderation since 2016.

This I learned it from casual conversations with mods over the years...To put it simply... this forum uses a "report" and "tally" system.

If a person keeps breaking rules and no one ever reports them the mods will never catch them nor ever ban them.

If one thinks there is some kind of bias in the mind of the mod, I think there is a misconception here.

People getting banned for breaking rules on shf like on nuf are not isolated events but a result of a chain of behavioral history.

For example. (This is an example Any resemblance to actual persons, places or events is purely coincidental.)

Lets say both T and P were having an argument. Both said words and behaved in a way that could be reported as abusive

The thread was locked and if posts were reported both users would have gotten a red mark in some moderator spreadsheet.

Since then P has not engaged in other arguments with T, and has not been very active on the forum.

But then T gets into another argument on another thread with idk, someone called Q, T end up calling people "Wookiees" saying all woke, all feminist and LGBTQ people should be rounded up and burned alive.

Whatever the Q says in return even with bad name-calling, that would only land them one warning, and T would be their second warning.

That... on top of T's daily spam of NSFW images with his clone account's profile page, even if the posts are posted and then deleted. If caught and reported that would earn him more warning points.

That would eventually rack up and get T banned or perma banned but not P or Q. While banning people that hurl abuse at target the "woke" and LGBTQ community is a right-wing narrative, the act of T being banned and not the others is a cold hard numeric not inherently political.
===

I have seen lots of people being banned over the years, but by far they have been bad people not because of their religion or political leaning, they were terrible people with problematic personalities. And they dial up their terribleness at people who disagree with their worldview.

I could do a leftwing example, about a person who raved about too much racism and misogyny on SH and gets into fights, but I am tired.

Also, I think (not sure) people don't just rack up warning points on the forum, people get those on the main site harassing authors and commenters.

That is what I understand of the mod system. Correct me if I am wrong,


TLDR
People who break rules repeatedly get reported get banned
People get banned for being assholes who don't read the rules or feel they are above it, not because of politics.
Warning points are indiscriminate of political leanings. They just follow the rules.
Some people are just more abusive more often.

@Tony There you go.

@ZukoMee feel free to call out Tony from what your friends have said.
*gesture vaguely* I have set the stage for you.

:blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn:

P.S I believe I have gotten 2 warnings in my long career, don't remember for what tho.
:meowsip: Scribble is the jungle. You can do everything with absolute impunity.
 
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:meowsip: Scribble is the jungle. You can do everything with absolute impunity.
As long as no one reports I suppose

but there are some in the forum here are like


light moderation of the forum,
And as I said, the forum runs on reporting if no one is reporting there is pretty much no moderation.

I also think not a lot of people care about moderation on this site or care enough to report (Bystander effect?).

Personally? I only report adbots accounts.
 

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As long as no one reports I suppose

but there are some in the forum here are like



And as I said, the forum runs on reporting if no one is reporting there is pretty much no moderation.

I also think not a lot of people care about moderation on this site or care enough to report (Bystander effect?).

Personally? I only report adbots accounts.
You were asking about ScribbleHub. Not ScribbleHub Forum. Moderation here is relatively intense. On the main site, meanwhile, it is barely existent but in name.
 

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I’ll chime in half-seriously here.

First thing first: scale. The number of users and posts relative to the moderation team. Duh, of course, moderation works based on reported cases. Nobody would be scraping the forums 24/7 for naughty users, and who would pay for them? You (as in, you who is reading now)? Will you buy SH premium to give the site the revenue to pay mods? Thought so.

Second, it is how many other sites work. The big corporations are the ones who can afford to have automated systems in place with algorithms. But is that good? Would you want a place where suddenly you can’t type certain words? Because that is what happens in those places. Soon, you can’t write them because they get censored or you get shadow-banned.

People who complain about it should take a step back and consider what it takes to achieve what they think they want.

The current system is good.
 

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As long as no one reports I suppose

but there are some in the forum here are like



And as I said, the forum runs on reporting if no one is reporting there is pretty much no moderation.
I was targeted by some basement idiots, see? But I'm aware of this site's limitations, and I understand the system here. It's just that, years of holding back at these idiots finally caught up and I exploded.

More than act like an asshole and pick up fights with people who had nothing to do with the idiocy, I turned to my tendency to self-harm to release anger and pent up feelings, hence what I did that get me to have myself banned.

Is it reasonable? Nope. Am I being stupid? Yes. But the rage was appeased, so it happened.
 

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So this is from someone who has been swimming under the gaze of shf and nuf moderation since 2016.

This I learned it from casual conversations with mods over the years...To put it simply... this forum uses a "report" and "tally" system.

If a person keeps breaking rules and no one ever reports them the mods will never catch them nor ever ban them.

If one thinks there is some kind of bias in the mind of the mod, I think there is a misconception here.

People getting banned for breaking rules on shf like on nuf are not isolated events but a result of a chain of behavioral history.

For example. (This is an example Any resemblance to actual persons, places or events is purely coincidental.)

Lets say both T and P were having an argument. Both said words and behaved in a way that could be reported as abusive

The thread was locked and if posts were reported both users would have gotten a red mark in some moderator spreadsheet.

Since then P has not engaged in other arguments with T, and has not been very active on the forum.

But then T gets into another argument on another thread with idk, someone called Q, T end up calling people "Wookiees" saying all woke, all feminist and LGBTQ people should be rounded up and burned alive.

Whatever the Q says in return even with bad name-calling, that would only land them one warning, and T would be their second warning.

That... on top of T's daily spam of NSFW images with his clone account's profile page, even if the posts are posted and then deleted. If caught and reported that would earn him more warning points.

That would eventually rack up and get T banned or perma banned but not P or Q. While banning people that hurl abuse at target the "woke" and LGBTQ community is a right-wing narrative, the act of T being banned and not the others is a cold hard numeric not inherently political.
===

I have seen lots of people being banned over the years, but by far they have been bad people not because of their religion or political leaning, they were terrible people with problematic personalities. And they dial up their terribleness at people who disagree with their worldview.

I could do a leftwing example, about a person who raved about too much racism and misogyny on SH and gets into fights, but I am tired.

Also, I think (not sure) people don't just rack up warning points on the forum, people get those on the main site harassing authors and commenters.

That is what I understand of the mod system. Correct me if I am wrong,


TLDR
People who break rules repeatedly get reported get banned
People get banned for being assholes who don't read the rules or feel they are above it, not because of politics.
Warning points are indiscriminate of political leanings. They just follow the rules.
Some people are just more abusive more often.

@Tony There you go.

@ZukoMee feel free to call out Tony from what your friends have said.
*gesture vaguely* I have set the stage for you.

:blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn::blob_popcorn:

P.S I believe I have gotten 2 warnings in my long career, don't remember for what tho.

OH Context
this thread is made in response to the accusation that the moderation team favours one political leaning and tries to only prosecute users of certain political leaning.

Do you think it's true?
mods are bitches, banning is a cunt move and warnings are just badges to be earned. Its the fucking internet, what kind of pansy ass bitch does a person need to be that they need mods to protect them? be polite if asked nicely or are treated with respect. Otherwise, dont give a fuck. What the hell does banning even do? make a new account, use a vpn. bans matter fuck all. Rules are for pussies.

Be a decent, reasonable human being and it wont even be applied to you anyway. Now, how does one really punish a troll? Just ignore them. They're attention whores. Block a cuck
 

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this thread is made in relation to the accusation that the moderation team favours one political leaning and tries to only prosecute users of the other political leaning.

Do you think it's true?

As far as I'm concerned, moderation here favors common sense. No political leanings.

Addendum: a lot of users here come from other countries and other cultures. As long as you're not being an entitled prick, you're good to go.
 
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Forgive me, if I'm not a bit peeved at this thread. Posts like these do little to dissuade people from believing what they want—if it doesn't strengthen them more—but the way this message is composed is less than distasteful, to say the least. Next time, if you believe a discussion is important enough to bring other's attention and be the cause of however much drama in the process, please write it in a manner that doesn't involve direct or indirect name-calling.

As for your question, Tony sees what the members report. The frequency at which one side gets reported more is something we do not know. This has to do with community bias; and Tony is still a guy.

However. However, fortunately or unfortunately, since threads don't get reported until the situation at large has already reared its ugly head, I'd not say it is cause for concern. Most of the time, at least. Easier to give punishments when one side has punched another than when they were just arguing.
 
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Forgive me, if I'm not a bit peeved at this thread. Posts like these do little to dissuade people from believing what they want—if it doesn't strengthen them more—but the way this message is composed is less than distasteful, to say the least. Next time, if you believe a discussion is important enough to bring other's attention and be the cause of however much drama in the process, please write it in a manner that doesn't involve direct or indirect name-calling.

As for your question, Tony sees what the members report. The frequency at which one side gets reported more is something we do not know. This has to do with community bias; and Tony is still a guy.

However. However, fortunately or unfortunately, since threads don't get reported until the situation at large has already reared its ugly head, I'd not say it is cause for concern. Most of the time, at least. Easier to give punishments when one side has punched another than when they were just arguing.
Yh, I agree. This could've been handled more tactfully...
 
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Forgive me, if I'm not a bit peeved at this thread.
Oh, I sorry my thread made you feel that way.

Unfortunately, i lack the literary fitness to convey my thoughts in a more diplomatic manner.

However, I don't think this thread is "important", frankly none of what I do on this forum I consider "important".

That is to say, I asked a question on anther thread, I hope to get an answer from zukamee, but it's now locked. 'Make A thread' was suggested by Tony, so I thought, "why not, might as well"

I am not too fuss if zukamee doesn't answer.

But I doubt the usefulness of this thread if I didn't tag him tho.
 
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