Fairy Tail vs Black Clover, which manga/ anime has the better magic systyem?

[OP1000]

Hello!!!!

For those of you that follow the series that are listed above, which story do you believe has the better magic system?

 

[RepresentingWrath]

The only difference between the two are grimoires in Black Clover.

 

[Corty]

both are the same type of disappointment after a promising start.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I meant the existence of grimoires. Grimoires do not affect Black Clover's magic system since it has no system. Same as Fairy Tail. Both series have characters that use unique magic, and this magic is not connected or systemized in any shape or form.

 

[BigBadBoi]

both are powered by friendship and screaming but fairy tail's bullshit friendship magic can revive a dead character so fairy tail

 

[NotaNuffian]

I hate them both.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

both are the same type of disappointment after a promising start.

I hate them both.

Yes.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I hate them both.

Yes.

Why?

 

[Blitz]

Rave master > Fairy tail <.<

 

[NotaNuffian]

Why?

Because they aren't system.

Unlike the Fairy Tail's Ice Magic which still pretended to have a teacher, most dragon slaying magics are unique like the bloody X gene.

The cast of magic users aren't learning from schools of magic with proper scaling, but rather just a bunch of asspulls after asspulls.

Don't get me wrong, I love the fights, some of which relied on brain such as during the fight between the two ice users and a dude that casts slowdown on his foes. It took a while but once the gig is up, the dude is done.

But then the time skip happens, the hype fell flat and I lost my tolerance for it.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

Why?

I never got into BC, but Fairy Tail became bad after a good opening. The author somehow kept making it worse and worse.

 

[Blitz]

I think early to mid Fairy tale is a pretty good overall. It’s fun and each arc was pretty different from one another. The sidecast was huge but they were memorable and distinct

It was facing some issues before too but post timeskip is so much trash that the difference is noticeable and stark. Just going downhill, step by step

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Because they aren't system.

Unlike the Fairy Tail's Ice Magic which still pretended to have a teacher, most dragon slaying magics are unique like the bloody X gene.

The cast of magic users aren't learning from schools of magic with proper scaling, but rather just a bunch of asspulls after asspulls.

Don't get me wrong, I love the fights, some of which relied on brain such as during the fight between the two ice users and a dude that casts slowdown on his foes. It took a while but once the gig is up, the dude is done.

But then the time skip happens, the hype fell flat and I lost my tolerance for it.

Oh... I thought you hate magic in FT.

I never got into BC, but Fairy Tail became bad after a good opening. The author somehow kept making it worse and worse.

Same as above.

Both of you don't dislike the non-existing system per se, but the manga. Which is understandable, I don't like it either.

 

[Corty]

Both of you don't dislike the non-existing system per se, but the manga. Which is understandable, I don't like it either.

The magic "system" was also shit because everyone was special. Someone introduced? Special. Someone returning? Special. Everyone is special. It was stoopid.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

The magic "system" was also shit because everyone was special. Someone introduced? Special. Someone returning? Special. Everyone is special. It was stoopid.

True, but majority of shounens have this type of "system." And even if they do have a proper system, like Naruto or Bleach(I know both are bad examples, me lazy), the only ones who are NOT special are cannon fodder. Also powercreep makes them obsolete.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Oh... I thought you hate magic in FT.

The magic "system" was also shit because everyone was special. Someone introduced? Special. Someone returning? Special. Everyone is special. It was stoopid.

Corty answered better than I did.

i do hate the magic in FT, which isn't magic, it's asspull.

Perhaps it is due to being hyperfixated on the overly competent special people, but the magic in FT feels like superpowers from superheroes instead of actual studies and trainings.

Only the gifted shall wield magic, others can go eat steaming feces.

 

[Corty]

My biggest gripe was the biggest asspull of the dragons living within the dragon slayers. Maaaan, wat? That's extra giga stoopid. Then, the author did another story with the same characters and different hair colors. I never checked that out, but it just shows the author is also stoopid,

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Corty answered better than I did.

i do hate the magic in FT, which isn't magic, it's asspull.

Perhaps it is due to being hyperfixated on the overly competent special people, but the magic in FT feels like superpowers from superheroes instead of actual studies and trainings.

Only the gifted shall wield magic, others can go eat steaming feces.

Well, I answered to this above. If you do have a proper system, no important character will abide by it. Plus harder systems are more susceptible to power creep.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Well, I answered to this above. If you do have a proper system, no important character will abide by it. Plus harder systems are more susceptible to power creep.

I hate shippuden so much.

 

[BearlyAlive]

Fairy Tail had a banger OST, tho. But the story has caused more than a few brain cells to migrate, yes. Block Clobber was pretty much the same lebble of intelaggedual egg-parties but with a strangely more annoying main cast (kudos to that, it's not an easy feat).

Rave master > Fairy tail <.<

Also that. The author has been nothing but butchering and reselling Rave Master in worse version but with more shiny package...