Anti Monarchy Medieval Fantasy Stories

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Don’t care if it’s a novel, manga, manwha, interpretive dance. I just want a fantasy story that isn’t about some blue blood privileged pos, or a story about a peasant who gains some bit of recognition from nobles, and then suddenly forgives all their transgression. Or the ’some nobles are good’ troupe. Sick of seeing stories where anti-monarchists are villains.

No I want to see the mc form a more perfect union. I want a Maximilian Robespierre isekai, I want to see heads roll. It’s frustrating always ready fantasy stories with ‘yeah nobility are privileged assholes who think others are beneath them, but the mc isn’t going to do anything about it of course.‘

This was more of a rant, but still give me some suggestions.
 
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Don’t care if it’s a novel, manga, manwha, interpretive dance. I just want a fantasy story that isn’t about some blue blood privileged pos, or a story about a peasant who gains some bit of recognition from nobles, and then suddenly forgives all their transgression. Or the ’some nobles are good’ troupe. Sick of seeing stories where anti-monarchists are villains.

No I want to see the mc form a more perfect union. I want a Maximilian Robespierre isekai, I want to see heads roll. It’s frustrating always ready fantasy stories with ‘yeah nobility are privileged assholes who think others are beneath them, but the mc isn’t going to do anything about it of course.‘

This was more of a rant, but still give me some suggestions.
Head roll? Robespierre was a bad guy. Though if you think about it monarchy was and is the singularly stable government type, after all its lasted literal millennia. As for "A more perfect Union" that currently burning irl after 240 years of near nonstop conflict.
 

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Don’t care if it’s a novel, manga, manwha, interpretive dance. I just want a fantasy story that isn’t about some blue blood privileged pos, or a story about a peasant who gains some bit of recognition from nobles, and then suddenly forgives all their transgression. Or the ’some nobles are good’ troupe. Sick of seeing stories where anti-monarchists are villains.

No I want to see the mc form a more perfect union. I want a Maximilian Robespierre isekai, I want to see heads roll. It’s frustrating always ready fantasy stories with ‘yeah nobility are privileged assholes who think others are beneath them, but the mc isn’t going to do anything about it of course.‘

This was more of a rant, but still give me some suggestions.
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Hmm, interesting. My story won't be what you're looking for, it's medieval setting and one MC is a farmer not a noble. But I will keep an eye out in case I find a story that fits your preference.
 
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Oh, wasnt powder mage trilogy something like that.
 

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I keep forgetting to read that. I keep seeing where it's in another lengthy hiatus and so I hold off thinking it'll pick back up only to forget about it all over again.
 

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Head roll? Robespierre was a bad guy. Though if you think about it monarchy was and is the singularly stable government type, after all its lasted literal millennia. As for "A more perfect Union" that currently burning irl after 240 years of near nonstop conflict.
Uhhhh... Most monarchies collapse and are replaced by another monarchy, sooner or later. Technically speaking, The US Government is the single longest run of a single government NOT being overthrown and replaced in all of human history. There are NATIONS older than the US, but no other country has had a GOVERNMENT last as long as the US.
Don’t care if it’s a novel, manga, manwha, interpretive dance. I just want a fantasy story that isn’t about some blue blood privileged pos, or a story about a peasant who gains some bit of recognition from nobles, and then suddenly forgives all their transgression. Or the ’some nobles are good’ troupe. Sick of seeing stories where anti-monarchists are villains.

No I want to see the mc form a more perfect union. I want a Maximilian Robespierre isekai, I want to see heads roll. It’s frustrating always ready fantasy stories with ‘yeah nobility are privileged assholes who think others are beneath them, but the mc isn’t going to do anything about it of course.‘

This was more of a rant, but still give me some suggestions.
Well, in HKN, the MC hates nobles but happens to really like the King, personally. And, well, it's a bit of a spoiler, but when the MC winds up the ruler, the first thing he does is create a separation of powers. He's not going for full-blown democracy/revolution. It's more of a gradual shifting of the government towards a model like the English have. The politics will be explored more in book 2, that I'm still writing. Not sure if it's your thing.

It's more evolution and less revolution.

I will say this, the Crown Prince gets turned into pizza topping.
 

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Don’t care if it’s a novel, manga, manwha, interpretive dance. I just want a fantasy story that isn’t about some blue blood privileged pos, or a story about a peasant who gains some bit of recognition from nobles, and then suddenly forgives all their transgression. Or the ’some nobles are good’ troupe. Sick of seeing stories where anti-monarchists are villains.

No I want to see the mc form a more perfect union. I want a Maximilian Robespierre isekai, I want to see heads roll. It’s frustrating always ready fantasy stories with ‘yeah nobility are privileged assholes who think others are beneath them, but the mc isn’t going to do anything about it of course.‘

This was more of a rant, but still give me some suggestions.

You've probably read it, but I recommend one of my favorite manga/anime: The Rose of Versailles.
At the heart of the story are the events of the French Revolution.

 

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Uhhhh... Most monarchies collapse and are replaced by another monarchy, sooner or later. Technically speaking, The US Government is the single longest run of a single government NOT being overthrown and replaced in all of human history. There are NATIONS older than the US, but no other country has had a GOVERNMENT last as long as the US.

- The **Pandyan Empire** of Southern India, which lasted from about **500 BC to 1350 AD** (1850 years)².
- The **Byzantine Empire**, also known as the Eastern Roman Empire, which dominated much of Europe and the Levant between **330 and 1453 AD** (1123 years)².
- The **Silla Kingdom** of Korea, which ruled the southern and central parts of the Korean Peninsula from **57 BC to 935 AD** (992 years)².
- The **Ethiopian Empire**, also known as Abyssinia, which claimed a lineage to King Solomon and ruled over various regions of East Africa from **1270 to 1974 AD** (704 years)³.
- The **Holy Roman Empire**, which was a loose confederation of Germanic states and territories under the nominal authority of the Pope and the Emperor, from **800 to 1806 AD** (1006 years)².
- The **Ottoman Empire**, which was one of the largest and most influential empires in history, spanning from **1299 to 1922 AD** (623 years)².
- The **Roman Empire**, which was the predecessor of the Byzantine Empire and one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world, from **27 BC to 476 AD** (503 years)².
- The **Ming Dynasty** of China, which was one of the most prosperous and culturally rich periods in Chinese history, from **1368 to 1644 AD** (276 years)².
- The **British Empire**, which was the largest empire in history by land area and population, covering a quarter of the world's surface and ruling over a fifth of its people, from **1583 to 1997 AD** (414 years)².
- The **United States of America**, which is the oldest constitutional republic and federal democracy in the world, from **1776 to present** (248 years)².

I am a history buff.
 

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- The **Pandyan Empire** of Southern India, which lasted from about **500 BC to 1350 AD** (1850 years)².
- The **Byzantine Empire**, also known as the Eastern Roman Empire, which dominated much of Europe and the Levant between **330 and 1453 AD** (1123 years)².
- The **Silla Kingdom** of Korea, which ruled the southern and central parts of the Korean Peninsula from **57 BC to 935 AD** (992 years)².
- The **Ethiopian Empire**, also known as Abyssinia, which claimed a lineage to King Solomon and ruled over various regions of East Africa from **1270 to 1974 AD** (704 years)³.
- The **Holy Roman Empire**, which was a loose confederation of Germanic states and territories under the nominal authority of the Pope and the Emperor, from **800 to 1806 AD** (1006 years)².
- The **Ottoman Empire**, which was one of the largest and most influential empires in history, spanning from **1299 to 1922 AD** (623 years)².
- The **Roman Empire**, which was the predecessor of the Byzantine Empire and one of the most powerful civilizations in the ancient world, from **27 BC to 476 AD** (503 years)².
- The **Ming Dynasty** of China, which was one of the most prosperous and culturally rich periods in Chinese history, from **1368 to 1644 AD** (276 years)².
- The **British Empire**, which was the largest empire in history by land area and population, covering a quarter of the world's surface and ruling over a fifth of its people, from **1583 to 1997 AD** (414 years)².
- The **United States of America**, which is the oldest constitutional republic and federal democracy in the world, from **1776 to present** (248 years)².

I am a history buff.
Uh-huh. And how many DIRECT CHAINS OF LINAGE? Remember a monarchy requires that the next generation take over. If you kill the father and take over, it doesn't count. If the current monarch steps down and you aren't the next of kin when you take over, you don't count. If there is a change in the government with a new constitution, it doesn't count.

AS A HISTORY BUFF, you should know the current US government is from 1786, NOT 1776. Our current GOVERNMENT did not exist until 1787. C'mon... what happened on September 12, 1787? It fixed the weakness of WHAT and basically created the GOVERNMENT we enjoy today. July 4th, 1776 is the birth of the US, but the US government in its current form did not EXIST until Sept 12th, 1787.

Honestly, given the name BYZANTINE is a synonym for BACKSTABBING, I am amazed you have the balls to include it.

They might be the same COUNTRY, but they aren't the same GOVERNMENT. Seriously, am I like, the only person here who uses the english language correctly? Are people here unable to READ and have to see everything through the lens of their own delusions rather than, I dunno, use the DEFINITION OF THE WORDS THEY READ?

HOW CAN YOU CONFUSE COUNTRY WITH GOVERNMENT?

One is a location. The other is a social contract.
- The **United States of America**, which is the oldest constitutional republic and federal democracy in the world, from **1776 to present** (248 years)².

I am a history buff.
1787 to present is 237 years, not 248 years,
You might be a history buff, but you obviously aren't too good at reading comprehension or you wouldn't have listed off a bunch of countries, instead, you should have included a list of dynasties.


Here's an example,

Let's say Trump gets elected, Biden has him shot and remains in power. That would be the END of the US Government and we would have to start the timer over from scratch. The US would continue to exist as a COUNTRY, but as a GOVERNMENT it would have been overthrown and replaced. If the PEACEFUL transference of power does not take place as agreed to by the rules of the government, then the government is not continuous.

This is the advantage of the US government, because the transference of power, even during the US civil war, was peaceful and followed the rules. Now, one could argue that PARTS of the US do not qualify, and I would agree, but as long as a single State in the US followed the rules, then the government has been continuous for longer than any other government in human history.


EDIT: If you want to be a purist and state that the current US government didn't exist in 1791 with the final ratification of the Bill of Rights, I would disagree, as the Bill of Rights is an ADDENDUM, not a rewrite, however, my argument would still stand as 2024 - 1791 is 235 years, and still the winner by... god I forget the runner up. I think over 80 years of difference, but I haven't looked it up in a long time, so it might be more. I seem to recall Italy was the front-runner until WW2? No. That wasn't it. I forget and I have already wasted too much time on this.
 
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I would recommend my own novel but it's not yet finished. :s_frown:
 

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Uh-huh. And how many DIRECT CHAINS OF LINAGE? Remember a monarchy requires that the next generation take over. If you kill the father and take over, it doesn't count. If the current monarch steps down and you aren't the next of kin when you take over, you don't count. If there is a change in the government with a new constitution, it doesn't count.
in the manner I posted was dynastic, as that is how many historians class governments of the past.
AS A HISTORY BUFF, you should know the current US government is from 1786, NOT 1776. Our current GOVERNMENT did not exist until 1787. C'mon... what happened on September 12, 1787? It fixed the weakness of WHAT and basically created the GOVERNMENT we enjoy today. July 4th, 1776 is the birth of the US, but the US government in its current form did not EXIST until Sept 12th, 1787.
yes, I marked the US as being founded in 1776, and for good reason, the Framers of the Constitution held power during the Articles of Confederation age.
This is the advantage of the US government, because the transference of power, even during the US civil war, was peaceful and followed the rules. Now, one could argue that PARTS of the US do not qualify, and I would agree, but as long as a single State in the US followed the rules, then the government has been continuous for longer than any other government in human history.
the issue with this is interesting as there have been multiple times the "rules" weren't followed.
Challenges to U.S. elections can take various forms, including legal disputes, recounts, and allegations of fraud. Here are some notable instances where U.S. elections were challenged:

1. **1800 - Thomas Jefferson vs. John Adams:**
- The election of 1800 was highly contentious and resulted in a tie between Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr. The tie was eventually resolved by the House of Representatives in favor of Jefferson.

2. **1824 - John Quincy Adams vs. Andrew Jackson:**
- The election of 1824 was characterized by a lack of a clear majority in the Electoral College. The House of Representatives decided the winner, choosing John Quincy Adams over Andrew Jackson, leading to accusations of a "corrupt bargain."

3. **1876 - Rutherford B. Hayes vs. Samuel Tilden:**
- The election was disputed due to the controversy over electoral votes in three Southern states. A special commission was established to resolve the issue, ultimately awarding the presidency to Rutherford B. Hayes in what is known as the Compromise of 1877.

4. **2000 - George W. Bush vs. Al Gore:**
- The election between George W. Bush and Al Gore in 2000 was marked by the recount controversy in Florida. The Supreme Court decision in Bush v. Gore halted the recount, leading to Bush's victory.

5. **2016 - Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton:**
- While there were no successful legal challenges that altered the outcome, the 2016 election saw claims of interference, hacking, and voter fraud. These allegations persisted throughout Trump's presidency.

6. **2020 - Joe Biden vs. Donald Trump:**
- The 2020 election faced numerous legal challenges from Donald Trump and his supporters, particularly focusing on allegations of widespread voter fraud. However, these claims were widely rejected by courts and election officials, and Joe Biden was inaugurated as the 46th President of the United States.

It's important to note that challenges to election results are not uncommon, but they vary in terms of their impact on the final outcome. Legal processes, recounts, and investigations are parts of the democratic system to ensure the integrity of elections.

  1. 1948 - Texas Senate Race:
    • In the Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate in Texas, Lyndon B. Johnson faced allegations of ballot-stuffing and voter fraud. Johnson won the primary and later won the general election, launching his political career.
  2. 1960 - John F. Kennedy vs. Richard Nixon:
    • The 1960 presidential election between John F. Kennedy and Richard Nixon was close, and there were allegations of voter fraud in Illinois and Texas. These claims, however, did not significantly affect the final outcome.
  3. 2000 - Al Gore vs. George W. Bush:
    • While the 2000 election controversy is often associated with Republicans due to the Supreme Court decision in Bush v. Gore, it's worth noting that Democrats raised concerns about the handling of ballots in Florida, particularly in counties with Democratic strongholds.
San Marino:

  • San Marino is a small republic entirely surrounded by Italy. It claims to be the world's oldest surviving sovereign state and constitutional republic, with traditions dating back to the establishment of its constitution in 1600. San Marino's governance system has been relatively stable over centuries.
 

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Don’t care if it’s a novel, manga, manwha, interpretive dance. I just want a fantasy story that isn’t about some blue blood privileged pos, or a story about a peasant who gains some bit of recognition from nobles, and then suddenly forgives all their transgression. Or the ’some nobles are good’ troupe. Sick of seeing stories where anti-monarchists are villains.

No I want to see the mc form a more perfect union. I want a Maximilian Robespierre isekai, I want to see heads roll. It’s frustrating always ready fantasy stories with ‘yeah nobility are privileged assholes who think others are beneath them, but the mc isn’t going to do anything about it of course.‘

This was more of a rant, but still give me some suggestions.
 

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I am waiting for an interpretative dance by the OP.

Otherwise Brian McClellan's Promise of Blood.
 
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