Encounter with the talented

[owotrucked]

Have you guys ever met someone skillful in a specific field, effortlessly learning things in that domain with a tremendous speed that you'll never reach a fraction of?

Was it in your primary field of interest? How did you feel? How are they now (if you managed to keep tabs)?

How much do you believe in hard work? Before and after discovering a genius

 

[Deleted member 84247]

Have you guys ever met someone skillful in a specific field, effortlessly learning things in that domain with a tremendous speed that you'll never reach a fraction of?

Was it in your primary field of interest? How did you feel? How are they now (if you managed to keep tabs)?

How much do you believe in hard work? Before and after discovering a genius

I met someone that was multi-faceted and talented in a broad range of subjects. On an IQ test he scored above 150, but he never got himself together. Last I heard he was working a retail job. With his innate talent he could have done so much, but he didn't apply himself to anything. That's why I believe in hard work.

Talent can make it easier to get in the doors, but it is useless if you don't apply yourself. He was a nihilist, and he believed that his efforts ultimately meant nothing. So he didn't try to be anything.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Have you guys ever met someone skillful in a specific field, effortlessly learning things in that domain with a tremendous speed that you'll never reach a fraction of?

Was it in your primary field of interest? How did you feel? How are they now (if you managed to keep tabs)?

How much do you believe in hard work? Before and after discovering a genius

1. No.

2. No.

3. Never.

If there is any life lesson about hardwork I know of, it is "you can be hardworking and still fail, but if you are lazy, you will definitely fail."

Ignoring all other aspects in life of course.

Now keep running the wheel.

 

[Dia779]

from what i've seen and experienced, it could go both ways for talented/naturally gifted people.

for me, it was an anime figurine sculptor, they could only make so much masterpieces UNLESS they CULTIVATE said skill further by way of going out of their comfort zone/trying somth new.

Some genius/gifted people even told me, "natural talent could only go so far, some of them are either content with where they are or are too afraid to improve further..........hardwork isn't pleasant honestly, but as long as you are passionate & stubborn af about it, however long it takes for u, u can be proud at the end for your own efforts...".

Never, ever compare yourselves to other's achievements. It may be easier said than, but they reality is everyone is different, and we may not be able to control the outside factors but we CAN control OUR perceptions about it. We can either be envious & bitter of them being better than us, or we can glad for them & actually learn even be inspired to improve ourselves further.

imo at least.

 

[owotrucked]

I met someone that was multi-faceted and talented in a broad range of subjects. On an IQ test he scored above 150, but he never got himself together. Last I heard he was working a retail job. With his innate talent he could have done so much, but he didn't apply himself to anything. That's why I believe in hard work.

Talent can make it easier to get in the doors, but it is useless if you don't apply yourself. He was a nihilist, and he believed that his efforts ultimately meant nothing. So he didn't try to be anything.

Fascinating, I only encountered highly specialized genius (like savant syndrom) who sucked at everything but a single subject. Unfortunately I didnt keep up with how they were doing.

Your dude is having it better together than me, at least he's working a job and not wasting days gaming and drawing lewds

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Have you guys ever met someone skillful in a specific field, effortlessly learning things in that domain with a tremendous speed that you'll never reach a fraction of?

Yes. I'm a school teacher.

Was it in your primary field of interest? How did you feel? How are they now (if you managed to keep tabs)?

Yep, in illustration. I felt envy (no, not the vampire), tbh. They are doing good in their field, coz I taught them.

How much do you believe in hard work? Before and after discovering a genius

Still applies. As I always say, what I lack in talent, I fill thru hardwork. And though I'm envious of prodigies, I'm genuinely happy for their success coz we all got different roads to success.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

Fascinating, I only encountered highly specialized genius (like savant syndrom) who sucked at everything but a single subject. Unfortunately I didnt keep up with how they were doing.

Your dude is having it better together than me, at least he's working a job and not wasting days gaming and drawing lewds

I am also wasting away, so we are kinda the same in that regard.

 

[Dieter]

 

[owotrucked]

Yes. I'm a school teacher.

Yep, in illustration. I felt envy (no, not the vampire), tbh. They are doing good in their field, coz I taught them.

Still applies. As I always say, what I lack in talent, I fill thru hardwork. And though I'm envious of prodigies, I'm genuinely happy for their success coz we all got different roads to success.

I think I remember your post about the two young students who were doing crazy good in art class

I'd say your talents spread both in writing and illustration and it's not a given that they can do as well as you with these exact combinations so indeed we all have different road

I still find fascinating how someone else can be presented the same input data as you and process the information 200% better than you.



We have to exorcise representingEnvy from you

 

[Deleted member 84247]

I think I remember your post about the two young students who were doing crazy good in art class

I'd say your talents spread both in writing and illustration and it's not a given that they can do as well as you with these exact combinations so indeed we all have different road

I still find fascinating how someone else can be presented the same input data as you and process the information 200% better than you.



We have to exorcise representingEnvy from you

No, wouldn't it be better if everyone had a little Envy in them? After Envy touches the hearts of everyone, they will all become cured of any mortal whims~

 

[Cipiteca396]

I think and process information very slowly. I remember when they were first teaching us math, we were supposed to be able to do this simple math sheet in under a minute. I cheated so damn hard. I cheated so hard, that they stuck me in advanced math for the rest of my time in school.

You could say I worked hard to get where I am. Or you could say I have a talent for -Ahem. Thinking outside the box.

Either way, it doesn't matter. Cuz in the end, I don't have the motivation to use my talent/willpower for anything. My head is so foggy.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

No, wouldn't it be better if everyone had a little Envy in them? After Envy touches the hearts of everyone, they will all become cured of any mortal whims~

I always use my envious desires to improve myself instead of pulling people down. So, if we put it that way, having a little Representation of Envy inside of us can still help us develop.

I think I remember your post about the two young students who were doing crazy good in art class

I suggested them to earn money by commissions, btw.

I'd say your talents spread both in writing and illustration and it's not a given that they can do as well as you with these exact combinations so indeed we all have different road

Well, my skills on writing are more on the 'hard work' side than, let's say, natural talent. Like, I always looks for applicable recommendations to my style.

On my illustrations, I've been drawing since I was child, though I didn't get an art course. And more on the self-taught techniques.

I still find fascinating how someone else can be presented the same input data as you and process the information 200% better than you.

Really fascinating. And I'd like them to use that to their advantage.

We have to exorcise representingEnvy from you

I'm good. There's always a little Envy in me to improve myself.

 

[Theirl]

I met someone that was multi-faceted and talented in a broad range of subjects. On an IQ test he scored above 150, but he never got himself together. Last I heard he was working a retail job. With his innate talent he could have done so much, but he didn't apply himself to anything. That's why I believe in hard work.

Talent can make it easier to get in the doors, but it is useless if you don't apply yourself. He was a nihilist, and he believed that his efforts ultimately meant nothing. So he didn't try to be anything.

high iq is usually a curse, hardwork is something u learn so if the parents dont properly give challenges to a high iq children they end up growing up without any grit, and when life gets tough because it will get eventully they will fall apart. i have a lot of friends really inteligent like most of them only were able to get back to a productive life style after doing terapy

 

[owotrucked]

For balanced mind everything is fueled by hard work. But for skewed brain, some tasks are extra challenging while others are effortless.

What I mean is that your writing skill (despite grown through hard work) can be perceived as talent by some (the people very bad at writing but good at something else for instance). It's all relative.

I'm not sure if there's real talent in art due to its subjectivity. But I'm certain academic and social talent are affected by fundamental skills like geometry processing, abstract reasoning, photographic memory recall, pattern identification, etc.

And Im sure there are trade offs. Even simply image processing takes huge space in brain, there's no way you can shove everything at good proficiency into a single skull

 

[Deleted member 54065]

For balanced mind everything is fueled by hard work. But for skewed brain, some tasks are extra challenging while others are effortless.

What I mean is that your writing skill (despite grown through hard work) can be perceived as talent by some (the people very bad at writing but good at something else for instance). It's all relative.

I'm not sure if there's real talent in art due to its subjectivity. But I'm certain academic and social talent are affected by fundamental skills like geometry processing, abstract reasoning, photographic memory recall, pattern identification, etc.

And Im sure there are trade offs. Even simply image processing takes huge space in brain, there's no way you can shove everything at good proficiency into a single skull

Well there are instances where one just takes a look at an artwork, and then he already knows what to do to imitate or copy the technique.

That, I believe, is talent.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

I had a friend in middle school who was an amazing artist. He moved away, and we exchanged a few letters. In the last letter he sent me, he told me that he was gay, and then I didn't hear from him again for a long time. He went to my university but ignored my calls when I wanted to ask him to hang out. I encountered him while he was with a big group of people and I was with my first love while crossing the street, and he told us that we would make beautiful babies. I don't know how he's doing now. We have one mutual friend on Facebook, but we are not friends and I don't know if he unfriended me or just deleted his old profile and made a new one and didn't add me.

 

[HungrySheep]

I once met someone who played 2 months of badminton, entered a tournament, and immediately made it all the way to finals in the region. And won. They got crushed in the provincial tournament, but that was still insane when you consider the fact that their opponent has been playing for years with professional coaching. Not my primary field of interest, but impressive nonetheless.

I don't believe in hard work, but I don't think you can be lazy and be successful, though. You still need to work to some degree, but luck is by FAR the biggest factor of all. I've seen tons of material that's insanely garbage yet is still incredibly successful. Maybe they know how to pander to a certain market or maybe it's popular with the masses despite its shortcomings. I don't know. I just know it's hot trash but the author still makes bank.

 

[Temple]

This is just me, and many won't agree with me, but I don't like saying that many talented people don't work hard and waste away. Those are just stuff to make us, the untalented, feel better. Yes, a lazy ass talented person can waste away. But a hardworking person can't catch up to talented persons who put half the effort in. I've encountered people who are both talented and hardworking, in and out of my field, and they're absolutely monstrous with what they can achieve. A long time ago, I've felt envious of them. But now, I don't even know where I want to go; I'm not in a rush to get "there," so I don't really care how fast others are moving.

luck is by FAR the biggest factor of all.

You can say that being born talented is also being lucky. I have some talents in some areas, and I recognize that it is sheer luck that I'm born with them.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Never met any talented people in person. But since I like to watch cybersport I see a lot of talented people there. Hard work still matters, but you will never achieve the same level as a hard working genius.

 

[owotrucked]

Well there are instances where one just takes a look at an artwork, and then he already knows what to do to imitate or copy the technique.

That, I believe, is talent.

Oh I meant talent in fine art. The kind of stuff you need to make it into museums without connections. For cynical like me, I think it's just a tax evasion scam because it's all subjective crap, but some say it takes talent.

Illustration, even stripped from ideas and expression, is a technical skill. And it's pretty obvious that all technical skill have specific requirements when it comes to the mental tasks. So obviously not everyone has the same aptitude to solve those tasks.

I once met someone who played 2 months of badminton, entered a tournament, and immediately made it all the way to finals in the region. And won. They got crushed in the provincial tournament,

Bruh they were an anime character. Too bad they werent the protagonist bc they would have won the provincial too lol


I think everyone should continuously spend a bit of effort to discover how one's talent can express. If you have an unsuspected talent for sewing but all you do is peeling carrot, then there's chance you'll never discover it because it takes at least a bit of investment to test it out

Also a good cope for people who feel bad about being balanced but not outstanding: being skewed means destiny is locking you into a singular path which may come with love hate relationship, while having good balance means you can combine fields with more freedom and expression. With hard work, you can elevate basic creations into higher value combination