Recommendations MCs who know they are in the wrong.

[NotaNuffian]

"People like to think of themselves as complex but good and others as simple bad people."

Funny for me, the speaker of this phrase is a chinese main character and the author often tries to justify the MC's behaviour as "the other guys started it."

So the MC is a discount Chen Ping An from Unsheathed (I liked the previous name Sword of Coming better) who likes to talk about good and evil and often be "good".

With "good" often meaning murdering a lot of "bad" people, in quotation because there are genuine bad people who uses humans as charcoal and fertilizers and then there are those who just try to murder MC.

And murdering MC is "bad".

No really, he did stated that to a villain. Though the context is the villain is a rich noble and MC is a poor bastard, therefore the noble is in his rights to murder MC however he deems fit and MC retaliating is blasphemy.

What made me drop this work is not just MC's hypocrisy but also the author's hellbent on one dimension villains whose sole purpose in life is to kill MC.

Sorry, I lost track.

Anyone can recommend me work with MC who is in the actual wrong, not misunderstanding BS. And also, MC knows full well that he is in the wrong.

Whatever he does with the knowledge, I don't care. Maybe he might express regret, or nonchalance or even relish in it.

 

[SomethingStuffHappend]

Sword god in a world of magic

 

[BlackKnightX]

"People like to think of themselves as complex but good and others as simple bad people."

Though the context is the villain is a rich noble and MC is a poor bastard, therefore the noble is in his rights to murder MC however he deems fit and MC retaliating is blasphemy.

I think you should have it right here. It's quite fitting, no? Think about it. You're born a poor bastard in a world where survival of the fittest is the only rule that matters (this rule is prevalent in most if not all of Chinese cultivation novels). You've lived your life in poverty and seen plenty of injustice done. Of course, he's gonna come up with this kind of belief. And reading between the line, I don't think he's talking about himself. I don't know the full context, but I guess he's talking to that noble or about that noble?

 

[NotaNuffian]

I think you should have it right here. It's quite fitting, no? Think about it. You're born a poor bastard in a world where survival of the fittest is the only rule that matters (this rule is prevalent in most if all of Chinese cultivation novels). You've lived your life in poverty and seen plenty of injustice done. Of course, he's gonna come up with this kind of belief. And reading between the line, I don't think he's talking about himself. I don't know the full context, but I guess he's talking to that noble or about that noble?

Actually, he is talking to another noble that also wants him dead.

In fact, every noble wants him dead. Because of face. Obviously.

And yes, he is not referring to himself. The statement was said to the other noble because the noble said "why can't you be more accommodating and just die already?"

Initially I was rooting for the MC.

But then I got really bored, solely because 90% of the entire upper echelon is his enemy because reasons.

I get why. Because MC literally said down with the nobility and royality in his best selling book, but come on.

 

[TheMonotonePuppet]

"People like to think of themselves as complex but good and others as simple bad people."

Funny for me, the speaker of this phrase is a chinese main character and the author often tries to justify the MC's behaviour as "the other guys started it."

So the MC is a discount Chen Ping An from Unsheathed (I liked the previous name Sword of Coming better) who likes to talk about good and evil and often be "good".

With "good" often meaning murdering a lot of "bad" people, in quotation because there are genuine bad people who uses humans as charcoal and fertilizers and then there are those who just try to murder MC.

And murdering MC is "bad".

No really, he did stated that to a villain. Though the context is the villain is a rich noble and MC is a poor bastard, therefore the noble is in his rights to murder MC however he deems fit and MC retaliating is blasphemy.

What made me drop this work is not just MC's hypocrisy but also the author's hellbent on one dimension villains whose sole purpose in life is to kill MC.

Sorry, I lost track.

Anyone can recommend me work with MC who is in the actual wrong, not misunderstanding BS. And also, MC knows full well that he is in the wrong.

Whatever he does with the knowledge, I don't care. Maybe he might express regret, or nonchalance or even relish in it.

My main character is often genuinely in the wrong, and knows full well the mistakes they make are monstrous/twisted.

Charisma

I, the wholly happy-go-lucky character, go through life on an alternate Earth with some 'minor' differences. Yes indeedy do! I promise an absolutely joyous time! I tell no lies. What minor differences you ask? Well, here's some advice. Don't drink that lava in a bottle, or you'll spend a night...

www.scribblehub.com

 

[BlackKnightX]

Actually, he is talking to another noble that also wants him dead.

In fact, every noble wants him dead. Because of face. Obviously.

Then it makes sense, doesn't it? The problem might be in the wording, but then again, if you read between the line, the intention seems clear to me. If he said, "You people like to think of yourself as complex but good and others as simple bad people," it would be more understandable. Generalization of the noble, yes, but again, understandable considering his background and experience.

 

[LilRora]

Thistlelight (it's on Scribble) might or might not be what you're looking for. I'm not actually sure because it's not as simple as being in the right or wrong there, but I think you might like it.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Then it makes sense, doesn't it? The problem might be in the wording, but then again, if you read between the line, the intention seems clear to me. If he said, "You people like to think of yourself as complex but good and others as simple bad people," it would be more understandable. Generalization of the noble, yes, but again, understandable considering his background and experience.

It does make sense.

What I am trying to say is he is in the same department as they are; a hypocrite through and through.

In the work further on, the author makes no attempt whatsoever to create a "gray" in the nobles side or showing that the MC trying to understand what the nobles' intention. Instead, the former was constantly painted as selfish, inconsiderate and haughty to further emphasize that they are the villain; something novels like to do, not just chinese. And the latter was handwaved, with MC just saying "nobles are a different breed" and made it is personaly crusade to dethrone them all.

I understand the importance to show a "good" side and a "bad" side in novels because:
1. I am a stupid dumb dumb and can't be trusted with rooting the ones that the author favored.
2. It makes the story more simplified and flown smoothly.

But after going through Tales of Herding Gods, the feeling of "those how antagonize you must be bad" is not as deeply rooted as I think. Yes, the bad guys in THG is selfish as well, but they try to show why and occasionally displayed the villains' humanity and weaknesses to make them feel more than just a foil for MC. And the best part is that in THG, MC is portrayed as "good" without the constant need of the author reminding us he is good. MC will also reflect if he fudged things up, feeling regret and other sad emotions. In my OG post's example, MC do no wrong, that humanity in MC is not present.

What I am trying to say is, if you can have your villain show a semblence of other emtions than pride and anger, try not to have your MC emote in self righteousness and being the paragon of "good" only. For the record, the work does try to humanize MC by having interact kindly to friendly forces, but that is it. Everytime he meets a new face or opposing forces, it is face slapping central all over.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

the seven highways rrl

 

[NotaNuffian]

the seven highways rrl

Holy fuck, first chapter and MC already threw a baby to swap place with himin death.

Chapter four ending: that is very philosophical, too bad MC is a total bastard. I like that.

 

[Bukashti]

Ahem, ahem...this is what you're looking for bro!

The Seven Highways – Xianxia Isekai

Follow Sa Min as he makes his way back to the Higher Realm. And what's his reason, you ask? Well, it's to find the most interesting way to… die. .... Heads up—our main character? Total psycho. He is evil. Like, super evil. Cold, manipulative, cruel, no empathy—the whole thing....

www.scribblehub.com

 

[NotaNuffian]

Ahem, ahem...this is what you're looking for bro!

The Seven Highways – Xianxia Isekai

Follow Sa Min as he makes his way back to the Higher Realm. And what's his reason, you ask? Well, it's to find the most interesting way to… die. .... Heads up—our main character? Total psycho. He is evil. Like, super evil. Cold, manipulative, cruel, no empathy—the whole thing....

www.scribblehub.com

I know. I read it already.

Holy fuck, first chapter and MC already threw a baby to swap place with himin death.

Chapter four ending: that is very philosophical, too bad MC is a total bastard. I like that.