SmutHub: Real or Not?

[Corty]

Well as one of the harem stories listed above, I do contain full on sex scenes, but at like 15 chapters out of 450 I wouldn't consider that a ratio high enough to be smut lol

Yeah, that is also another point, but so far, I chose Harem and Smut as I saw most "hate" thrown at those two.

 

[ShipTeaser]

Yeah, that is also another point, but so far, I chose Harem and Smut as I saw most "hate" thrown at those two.

Makes sense. Well the harem hate here is nothing compared to RR lol, there it gets brutal.

There's anecdotally more harem here and definitely more smut than RR since its not smut friendly at all there, but as your figures show its hardly all consuming lol.

People should just write (and read) what they want to. If there's a thousand stories that a person doesn't want to read for whatever reason and ten they do, that's still a win, as there's always those ten...

Oh well, people nowadays tend to want what they don't like to simply not exist, instead of celebrating the fact you can find stories catering to every taste

 

[Bobple]

Now this is something interesting. Numbers are fun .

Yeah, those two definitely get the most hate. And seeing how often people complain about them, especially harem.

I kind of understand the smut 'dislike', people don't want to read sex/porn stories for their enjoyment, that makes a lot of sense.

I'm going to keep an eye on this thread.

 

[Lodur]

After so many years, I still don't comprehend the meaning of the word "smut". Is it other word for "porn" ("adult", "18+")? Is it something else?
As a self-proclaimed Hinduist, with morals different from morals of majority of Christian countries or countries with Christian background (including my own country), I rarely give a sh*t about explicit descriptions. Some Hindu Scriptures occasionally contain descriptions, which will make unprepared western reader hide in a corner from shame. They are all in Sanskrit though, (semi-)dead language, well known to few people in India and even fewer around the world. So, it’s “all right”, because nobody cares, and who do care, will not blame things, he considers sacred.
As for the list above. I’m reading “On Astral Tides” (#12 in first list), and it contains NSWF chapters occasionally (the last one was yesterday, I still did’t read two yesterday chapters). But, as one can see, there is no “smut” tag on that novel. It’s really confusing.

 

[Corty]

After so many years, I still don't comprehend the meaning of the word "smut". Is it other word for "porn" ("adult", "18+")? Is it something else?
As a self-proclaimed Hinduist, with morals different from morals of majority of Christian countries or countries with Christian background (including my own country), I rarely give a sh*t about explicit descriptions. Some Hindu Scriptures occasionally contain descriptions, which will make unprepared western reader hide in a corner from shame. They are all in Sanskrit though, (semi-)dead language, well known to few people in India and even fewer around the world. So, it’s “all right”, because nobody cares, and who do care, will not blame things, he considers sacred.
As for the list above. I’m reading “On Astral Tides” (#12 in first list), and it contains NSWF chapters occasionally (the last one was yesterday, I still did’t read two yesterday chapters). But, as one can see, there is no “smut” tag on that novel. It’s really confusing.

Smut novels are stories that focus on sex. Their whole premise is set on erotica. Mass Effect has sex scenes in it but it isn't a porn game. Same thing.

 

[Jerynboe]

Adult and Mature might be good, because of perception, but you risk more false positives that way. Tags are a little weird in how they are used. I’m still puzzled about a review I’ve received that complained about misleading tags because I included smut. I’ve got enough sex and mind control focused erotica and harem building that I genuinely wouldn’t feel comfortable *not* including the smut tag but the reviewer insisted that I only really merited the adult or mature tags and a lot of people found this review helpful.
I don’t know exactly if there’s a point to this rant, other than that a decent number of people do seem to feel that “smut, but there’s long segments focused on other stuff” isn’t really smut at all and fits in adult or mature. Genre labels be like that.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

After so many years, I still don't comprehend the meaning of the word "smut". Is it other word for "porn" ("adult", "18+")? Is it something else?
As a self-proclaimed Hinduist, with morals different from morals of majority of Christian countries or countries with Christian background (including my own country), I rarely give a sh*t about explicit descriptions. Some Hindu Scriptures occasionally contain descriptions, which will make unprepared western reader hide in a corner from shame. They are all in Sanskrit though, (semi-)dead language, well known to few people in India and even fewer around the world. So, it’s “all right”, because nobody cares, and who do care, will not blame things, he considers sacred.
As for the list above. I’m reading “On Astral Tides” (#12 in first list), and it contains NSWF chapters occasionally (the last one was yesterday, I still did’t read two yesterday chapters). But, as one can see, there is no “smut” tag on that novel. It’s really confusing.

Erotic work of fiction that’s mainly targeted toward females. Smut stories often gives heavy focus on love and relationships between the main characters.

Though in SH the meaning has changed and now it means novels with depiction of sex scenes.

 

[ShipTeaser]

As for the list above. I’m reading “On Astral Tides” (#12 in first list), and it contains NSWF chapters occasionally (the last one was yesterday, I still did’t read two yesterday chapters). But, as one can see, there is no “smut” tag on that novel. It’s really confusing.

Yeah, I think it's 'mature' tag as there's the infrequent sexy times, but it's not 'smut' as there are dozens to scores of chapters between said scenes quite often, so it's definitely not smut, as anyone looking for a lot of sexytime would be rather dissatisfied lol

I guess there's a balance to be found.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

I think it's time to get to the bottom of this. Is it really as bad as people complain it is or not? From now on, every day, I am going to inform you all about the happenings of new releases and trending. How long will I do this? It will probably be a week or so. No promises, though. What I will focus on here is two genres: smut and harem. I have no blacklisting nor set favorites; the site is as is seen without fiddling with settings. Let's start with the latter:

Trending (Daily Top 20)
Date: 2023.August.23​

Spoiler: Top 20

• Harem: 6 out of 20 = 30%
• Smut: 2 out of 20 = 10%

Hey... that is pretty low... Oh well. Let's move on to the new books being uploaded:

Latest Series (Last 20)
Date: 2023.August.23​

Spoiler: Last 20

• Harem: 4 out of 20 = 20%
• Smut: 2 out of 20 = 10%

Again... this is not that bad. So... what's the complaint again I get to read again and again? What are you guys on about?

I admit this impromptu "research" is not rock solid. It relies on authors tagging their novels well. But if you want to complain, go ahead and do a proper one. I will keep posting and updating this every day. Let's see how it fares. If there won't be 20 new books by tomorrow, then I will cut down its numbers but still give you the correct percentage, which is what matters, IMO. For now, we are in the green, I think.

You can click on the dates below, and it will take you to the post from that day!

• First day: August 23
• Second day: Coming Soon

This is purely a matter of relativity.

Compared to 100%, 30% or 10% are of course not much. Merely roughly 1/3 or 1/10 of the former.

Compared to 1%, however, 30% or 10% are suddenly a lot. 30 times, or 10 times respectively. That would be a quite significant statistical difference.

You would need to check other novel sites for comparison, to establish a database.

 

[Corty]

@Assurbanipal_II

if you want to complain, go ahead and do a proper one.

By checking the latest 20, I already looked at more titles than the average user does when fishing for a story.

Edit:

I went ahead and took a glance at the latest chapters section, too: Almost the same numbers as what I got with trending. 7 harem and 3 smut books. And that is from who knows how many currently running stories. Let's take it at an hourly interval:

• Let's round it up, shall we? 10 harem stories and 5 smut stories get updated every hour.
• How many running stories do we have? Now that is a more tricky question. I don't think even Tony knows.
• Let's lowball it; we have 30 stories that are currently being updated every hour.
• That is 720 stories per day.
• 240 of it is harem. That is a 33.33%
• 120 of its smut. That is a 16.66%

And I didn't even take the fact into consideration that there are stories that may update twice a day. Or more. And many other things.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

@Assurbanipal_II

By checking the latest 20, I already looked at more titles than the average user does when fishing for a story.

That is not the point. You established a percentage. That is fine. The percentage is correct. What is missing are the parameters. The context. How should you interpret the percentage? High? Low? You would need some other sites to compare.

 

[laccoff_mawning]

Since I find this topic interesting, I'ma give my opinion:

Since there is a content filter, one could also test using the content filter for sexual content. eg. count x many stories, then filter out the ones with the content warning, then re-count.

Also, One could check stories by those with recent updates to see how many "active" stories are smut or not, rather than the no. of new or trending stories.

At the time of writing I count 91 stories with a smut tag updated today*,

and 17 *25 + 15 = 465 total stories (17 full pages of stories, 25 stories per page, with 15 stories within today marked on 18th page)

thats about 19.6% of "today's" stories are smut.


Similarly, there are 5*25 + 6 = 131 harem stories

giving 28.2% of the "today's" stories being harem

Honestly, these stats are lower than I expected. I was expecting about 40% harem or something.

*by "today", I counted any story that had a recent chapter published showing the hours since publish, and I stopped counting when I started hitting stories that had a date shown, as i presume those mean over 24 hours ago.

Edit: strictly, It would be better to count those that had been made within a week, to account for possible routine of writers, but I'm too lazy for that.

 

[Lodur]

Smut novels are stories that focus on sex. Their whole premise is set on erotica. Mass Effect has sex scenes in it but it isn't a porn game. Same thing.

Thanks. It's amazes me to know, that "Amaru Shataka" or "Chaurapanchashika" could be tagged as "smut", since they solely focus on erotic love and contain explicit descriptions.

 

[APieceOfRock]

Who came up with the term "smut" anyways? It's too close to "smurf" for my comfort

 

[Corty]

Since I find this topic interesting, I'ma give my opinion:

Since there is a content filter, one could also test using the content filter for sexual content. eg. count x many stories, then filter out the ones with the content warning, then re-count.

Also, One could check stories by those with recent updates to see how many "active" stories are smut or not, rather than the no. of new or trending stories.

At the time of writing I count 91 stories with a smut tag updated today*,

and 17 *25 + 15 = 465 total stories (17 full pages of stories, 25 stories per page, with 15 stories within today marked on 18th page)

thats about 19.6% of "today's" stories are smut.


Similarly, there are 5*25 + 6 = 131 harem stories

giving 28.2% of the "today's" stories being harem

Honestly, these stats are lower than I expected. I was expecting about 40% harem or something.

*by "today", I counted any story that had a recent chapter published showing the hours since publish, and I stopped counting when I started hitting stories that had a date shown, as i presume those mean over 24 hours ago.

Edit: strictly, It would be better to count those that had been made within a week, to account for possible routine of writers, but I'm too lazy for that.

Just edited something similar into my last post. But I only went for the ones showing up on the front page.

 

[BearlyAlive]

Wasn't it called Smuthub because it allowed smut? ?

Calling 10% of pure smut stories "not much" is pretty much like saying "Only every tenth person is a radical extremist, so there's no need to act yet, since that isn't that much". Factor in the stories that don't focus on copulation but feature it, and suddenly you'd be at... I dunno 25% to 35% of novels?

Also obligatory "harem bad, mkay" post.

 

[Corty]

Wasn't it called Smuthub because it allowed smut? ?

Calling 10% of pure smut stories "not much" is pretty much like saying "Only every tenth person is a radical extremist, so there's no need to act yet, since that isn't that much". Factor in the stories that don't focus on copulation but feature it, and suddenly you'd be at... I dunno 25% to 35% of novels?

Also obligatory "harem bad, mkay" post.

Um... I don't think people who write or enjoy reading about peepees and boobas are in the same category as radical extremists. We don't need to act against them or anything... especially when we have a content filter at our disposal.

I just want to see if the complaint that every story is about harem or about fucking everybody is true or not.

The average user comes online, checks the front page, and goes on his/her merry way. Most may not even have an account registered. Doing it like this represents their experience the most.

 

[Paul__Michaels]

Huh? I might have missed tagged one of my story as smug when it might be mature?

 

[dummycake]

I don't think the "problem" is the ratio but the frequency

 

[Corty]

I don't think the "problem" is the ratio but the frequency

Of what? I am honestly curious. That is why I included the recent novels. I am curious as to by tomorrow, will be there more smut/harem stories started or not.