I need a list of genres and the worst tropes from them

[Representing_Tromba]

Basically, I just want a list of as many genres and subgenres that you know of. Along with the genre, I want to know what you feel is overused, generally disliked, and love about it.

 

[J_Chemist]

Romance.

NTR. BL. GL. GB. Harem.

Everyone wants something spicy. But sometimes I just want a basic romcom that's actually funny and written well. A well written romance with enough comedic shenanigans is better than any half-assed smut novel written by someone fulfilling a fantasy.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Smart Protagonist: Not smart at all, it is just that everyone else is a dumbfuck.

Smartmouth Protagonist: someone that requires a reality check.

Faceslapping: I don't really hate this one because reality can often be as cringe as fiction, if not cringer.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

GL - Women
BL - Men
Fantasy - Too much sex
Smut - smut
Sci-fi - too nerdy and niche
Adventure - move around too much
harem - harem
Isekai - far too much se
other stuff - boring

 

[Vnator]

GL - Women
BL - Men
Fantasy - Too much sex
Smut - smut
Sci-fi - too nerdy and niche
Adventure - move around too much
harem - harem
Isekai - far too much se
other stuff - boring

What does "too much se" mean? I mean, what does "se" stand for?

 

[RepresentingCaution]

Having to choose just one person to love when you could choose both:

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Adventure/Fantasy - Multiple love interests where one has to be left holding the bag. Should just have one interest, or none.

Weak to strong with male MC - Tall Male Protagonist, often it ruins the contrast between him being weak. Like, who the hell I going to underestimate a guy who's one 6' and full of muscle? Seriously.

Majority of Genre's with Female MC - Short Female protagonists, short is usually associated with weakness, so the short tiny female being domineering really makes no sense unless every other character is stupid and doesn't realize they can bully them. often come up with the stupidest reasons for why she controls others, or is able to move against the antagonists.

GB - Weak motivations for the characters, or weak plot lines

Harem - Either wallflower love interests once they're captured, jealous harem members which cause discord, or some other crap. Too many members/characters that are otherwise nothing more than tropes.

Revenge - Not enough cathartic payoff. Often the bad guy gets let off way too easy to be satisfying, or they team up with the MC. I hate protagonist/antagonist team up. I'd rather they absolutely can't work together.

 

[georgelee5786]

Fantasy: elves being tree loving hippies with big boobs.
Only a half joke, really. I feel like classic fantasy creatures like elves, dwarves, orcs, etc don't get the respect and writing they deserve these days.

 

[StainedGlassThreads]

I strongly dislike characters, in any genre but it tends to appear often in stuff like harems and isekai, whose only personality is 'well gosh golly gobsmackers! I have no personality trait beyond loving [character]!! I will do anything for their happiness, and am generally a walking piece of cardboard when they're in the same room as me!' Romantic, platonic, familial, doesn't matter. PLEASE give them SOME goals and fears that establish them as their own person, and not a particularly humanlike lapdog.

 

[Agentt]

Female lead being a complete man hater just to show woman empowerment

 

[Cipiteca396]

Psychological: 'I've been struggling with this issue for all my life, but since the story started now, I'll just get over it in a minute or two.'

 

[APieceOfRock]

Female lead being a complete man hater just to show woman empowerment

I hate this so much. Basically most Female leading novel I have read have this.
And also non-human (humans plus animal featured like cat ears or dragon tail) hating on humans for being human because oh humans are greedy and bad and they're the only ones who do anything bad to other races. It's not like there are also good humans or anything. (Except influential human female figures of course. ThEy'rE jUsT mIsUndErstOod! ThEy hAd nO oThEr ChoIce!)

 

[CadmarLegend]

Psychological: 'I've been struggling with this issue for all my life, but since the story started now, I'll just get over it in a minute or two.'

60% of novels with Psycological + Romance + Drama with characters being unnecessarily suicidal:

 

[ShrimpShady]

Isekai - slavery.

Just. Stop. No.

If it ain't a story about the isekai hero enacting policy to abolish slavery, then I do not want to hear about it.

 

[Cipiteca396]

Come to think of it, any genre where 'Pain is power'. It's not. Pain is trauma.

 

[FaustVoncleave]

Sci fi/fantasy

Idk if it has a name, but I hate when clones or alternate selfs replace dead love interests. It always annoys the hell out of me.

 

[Domoviye]

Sci fi/fantasy

Idk if it has a name, but I hate when clones or alternate selfs replace dead love interests. It always annoys the hell out of me.

The Replacement Goldfish trope is pretty close to this.
Doesn't just deal with clones, but any time a character replaces a lost loved one with someone nearly identical, a robot, a clone, a version from a parallel dimension, etc.
And yeah, it's usually used very badly.

 

[Le_ther]

Basically, I just want a list of as many genres and subgenres that you know of. Along with the genre, I want to know what you feel is overused, generally disliked, and love about it.

Isekai... do i even have to explain how this genre is just a big ol RNG. Where you get the best novel you see or the worst novel you have ever read

 

[Agentt]

Psychological: 'I've been struggling with this issue for all my life, but since the story started now, I'll just get over it in a minute or two.'

Here's the worse version.

I have controlled the demon inside me for many years. But since the story starts now, I have forgotten how to do it other than to say, "Stop it you, you will not control me"

 

[LilRora]

LitRPG, when the system applied to anything more than humans stops making sense and when skills seem like a convenient device.

There are quite a lot of niche stories that do it well in a way that the system can be applied to anything and will still work, but in too many cases it seems to be made specifically for humans while supposedly applying to other beings as well.

Additionally, skills often don't make sense when something like "running" pops up out of the blue and develops in a story while for example footwork - something that's definitely much more of a skill than running - either never appears or only when the mc learns some special technique somewhere.