Have you heard Mental BL?

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Probably not. Mental BL or Spiritual BL (精神的BL) is a tag I discovered while browsing Syotesu. What is Syotesu? It is a Japanese web novel website. A lot of Anime that originated from web novels can trace back to that website.For Example, Kumo desu ga, Nani ka?, Death march kara hajimeru, Tensura, To Be a Power in the Shadows!, Arifureta, and many many more.

Anyway, I am a bit sidetracked here. We are talking about mental BL, not Syotesu. So what exactly is a mental BL? Mental BL is usually accompanied by gender bender or TS. Where MC or one of the relevant character turn into a girl. The one that turns into a girl usually falls in love with some male character. I guess is called mental BL cause what is inside the girl is a former male. But it can also be two males becoming a girl and falling in love with each other. Usually, that makes it GL right? Well yeah, is still GL. But also mental BL.

So yeah, that's Mental BL.
 

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Probably not. Mental BL or Spiritual BL (精神的BL) is a tag I discovered while browsing Syotesu. What is Syotesu? It is a Japanese web novel website. A lot of Anime that originated from web novels can trace back to that website.For Example, Kumo desu ga, Nani ka?, Death march kara hajimeru, Tensura, To Be a Power in the Shadows!, Arifureta, and many many more.

Anyway, I am a bit sidetracked here. We are talking about mental BL, not Syotesu. So what exactly is a mental BL? Mental BL is usually accompanied by gender bender or TS. Where MC or one of the relevant character turn into a girl. The one that turns into a girl usually falls in love with some male character. I guess is called mental BL cause what is inside the girl is a former male. But it can also be two males becoming a girl and falling in love with each other. Usually, that makes it GL right? Well yeah, is still GL. But also mental BL.

So yeah, that's Mental BL.
nah bro sexuality dont work that way, if I'm a straight dude, I'm not gonna even find another guy attractive whether i turn into a girl or not.

HOWEVER....Sexual deviancy is a thing. Which means either you have so much sex that eventually you start to..."experiment" to find new ways to feel pleasure, or your body is stimulated enough to where your sexuality starts to loosen and change from its original state.

But those are things that only really develop over time. Just suddenly turning into a girl wont change your sexuality, tho, so you'd have to already find men attractive to fall in love with one. Otherwise, it just wont work out.

...But its just all stories, so i ain't gonna be too anal about realism.

Attraction is pretty tricky, too. For example, if i look at some cosplayer dressed as Megumin or some other female character, then just find out that the cosplayer is a MAN....I ain't gay. I wasn't attracted to any masculine aspect. I wanted to dick that guy down because he had FEMININE features and looked like a fucking snack in that short red robe

In short, sticking your dick in a man isn't gay if the dude is cute af
 

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That sounds like being a homosexual with extra steps and half the assets you need to make that orientation work.
 

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No. No I have not heard Mental BL. I have tried very hard not to. I doubt my life will be any better for knowing.
 

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nah bro sexuality dont work that way, if I'm a straight dude, I'm not gonna even find another guy attractive whether i turn into a girl or not.

HOWEVER....Sexual deviancy is a thing. Which means either you have so much sex that eventually you start to..."experiment" to find new ways to feel pleasure, or your body is stimulated enough to where your sexuality starts to loosen and change from its original state.

But those are things that only really develop over time. Just suddenly turning into a girl wont change your sexuality, tho, so you'd have to already find men attractive to fall in love with one. Otherwise, it just wont work out.

...But its just all stories, so i ain't gonna be too anal about realism.

Attraction is pretty tricky, too. For example, if i look at some cosplayer dressed as Megumin or some other female character, then just find out that the cosplayer is a MAN....I ain't gay. I wasn't attracted to any masculine aspect. I wanted to dick that guy down because he had FEMININE features and looked like a fucking snack in that short red robe

In short, sticking your dick in a man isn't gay if the dude is cute af
hey, I don't make it up. Is there in Syotesu. Also, I am talking about the tags not the sexual orientation. Usually the story is good, where MC slowly fall in love (even swlf denial, which the drama presented) . I just found it fascinating Japan have a specific tags for specific scenario like that.
 

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Probably not. Mental BL or Spiritual BL (精神的BL) is a tag I discovered while browsing Syotesu. What is Syotesu? It is a Japanese web novel website. A lot of Anime that originated from web novels can trace back to that website.For Example, Kumo desu ga, Nani ka?, Death march kara hajimeru, Tensura, To Be a Power in the Shadows!, Arifureta, and many many more.

Anyway, I am a bit sidetracked here. We are talking about mental BL, not Syotesu. So what exactly is a mental BL? Mental BL is usually accompanied by gender bender or TS. Where MC or one of the relevant character turn into a girl. The one that turns into a girl usually falls in love with some male character. I guess is called mental BL cause what is inside the girl is a former male. But it can also be two males becoming a girl and falling in love with each other. Usually, that makes it GL right? Well yeah, is still GL. But also mental BL.

So yeah, that's Mental BL.
I thought mental BL was when the author secretly shipped two of her straightest characters. I've seen it happen, many times.
 
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hey, I don't make it up. Is there in Syotesu. Also, I am talking about the tags not the sexual orientation. Usually the story is good, where MC slowly fall in love (even swlf denial, which the drama presented) . I just found it fascinating Japan have a specific tags for specific scenario like that.
japan has a name for fucking everything, my dude. Its weird.
I thought mental BL was when the author shipped two of her straightest characters. I've seen happen, many times.
so just fujoshi fantasies, then.
 

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Is it even mental BL if you adapt to a female body and start thinking like a woman? Like, shit's weird, man. You'd expect to start being affected by your new biology after some time and naturalise, or you'd go crazy.

If anything that's some psychological horror shit about your identity slowly being grinded into another shape through different hormones and shit.

...On second thought, I'm pretty sure that's the sexy part of gender bender for some folks.
 

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Is it even mental BL if you adapt to a female body and start thinking like a woman? Like, shit's weird, man. You'd expect to start being affected by your new biology after some time and naturalise, or you'd go crazy.

If anything that's some psychological horror shit about your identity slowly being grinded into another shape through different hormones and shit.

...On second thought, I'm pretty sure that's the sexy part of gender bender for some folks.
there's studies that show hormones can change sexual orientation, but I'm not sure how common that actually is. But i still say a person would remain the same sexuality in most cases. Theres also pleasure vs romance factors at play. Maybe after becoming a woman, you'd enjoy sex with a man more than you would a woman. But would you LOVE a man? Plenty of bisexuals prefer more feminine aspects when choosing their partners. So sex would be fine but romantically you may not be interested in males.

Hm. That may also explain why bisexuals are prone to having open or polyamorous relationships. Keep a man for sex, for example, and the other a woman to satisfy your preference for a romantic partner.
 

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there's studies that show hormones can change sexual orientation, but I'm not sure how common that actually is. But i still say a person would remain the same sexuality in most cases. Theres also pleasure vs romance factors at play. Maybe after becoming a woman, you'd enjoy sex with a man more than you would a woman. But would you LOVE a man? Plenty of bisexuals prefer more feminine aspects when choosing their partners. So sex would be fine but romantically you may not be interested in males.
There's also not enough cases to prove correlation either on the first part is my guess. I wouldn't even begin to know how you'd legally go about testing for this, as we're talking about a normal dude getting flooded with estrogen/suffering a full on perfect sex change (something scientifically impossible right now), and seeing if they turn "mentally homosexual." Thought experiments are thought experiments as it's entirely subjective on that note and cannot be taken as facts and just hypotheticals.

We can discuss theory all we like, but this is still full on Fiction- whether Fantasy or Science Fiction, so there's no saying if it'd be one way or another. I'm on the same opinion as CupcakeNinja though- I would also think they'd stay largely the same unless they had some inclinations of 'deviancy' beforehand.

In the case of double Genderswap into Girl's Love... Depends on if it's just Physical or includes Mental. If they just have sex to see how it's like, that's just Homies being Homies. If Romance comes true, that's a Bromance. If they end up thinking of themselves as Girls by/after that point, then it becomes GL.
 

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Theres also pleasure vs romance factors at play. Maybe after becoming a woman, you'd enjoy sex with a man more than you would a woman. But would you LOVE a man? Plenty of bisexuals prefer more feminine aspects when choosing their partners. So sex would be fine but romantically you may not be interested in males.
This kinda stuff gets my neurons going. Whenever I see a lot of guys who fucking hate any mention of men in their waifus or idols, I honestly wonder if they're actually self-inserting like we believe, or they've become obsessed with a form of femininity that's gone so overboard they've taken it as a form of their own identity. A lot of the normal guys don't seem to be like that, even if they'd be over the moon to have a harem.

I so fucking want to make an experiment where we get one of each, turn them into women, and drop them into the life of an otome game heroine where you've got these pretty-ass hunking studs with everything a woman wants in a man and see how it pans out.

I bet fifty bucks the waifu-idol licker ironically enjoys it, while the normal guy screams about the sausage fest until endgame content.
 
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the normal guy screams about the sausage fest until endgame content.
that would be me... if i hadnt snapped and found a way to rid myself of the meatheads (preferably with a sword or magic... i'd settle for whatever's available)
in the context of double GB into GL? probably the only instance i dont have a problem with.. then again, i wouldnt be thinking about 'omg they were both guys' so it would become a non-issue.
 

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This kinda stuff gets my neurons going. Whenever I see a lot of guys who fucking hate any mention of men in their waifus or idols, I honestly wonder if they're actually self-inserting like we believe, or they've become obsessed with a form of femininity that's gone so overboard they've taken it as a form of their own identity. A lot of the normal guys don't seem to be like that, even if they'd be over the moon to have a harem.

I so fucking want to make an experiment where we get one of each, turn them into women, and drop them into the life of an otome game heroine where you've got these pretty-ass hunking studs with everything a woman wants in a man and see how it pans out.

I bet fifty bucks the waifu-idol licker ironically enjoys it, while the normal guy screams about the sausage fest until endgame content.
well because i think the whole anime culture attracts a certain type of person anyway. I mean, we joke about it a lot but NEETS are pretty common among anime lovers. It, as with anything, becomes a crippling addiction. The entire industry is generally bright, vivid, and almost even designed to draw you in. In japan, its crazy how often anime is used in advertisements to sell some product or concept. Remember the whole Earth-can thing? Fucking polymorphed the earth into a cute anime girl, going, "save Earth-chan!" and it fucking WORKED. It's also oversexualized as hell, which is another trap.

Its easy to pick up these wish fulfillment stories and just lose yourself in them, too. Its why stories surrounding highschool students are so wildly popular, regardless of what genre or setting you place them in. Not only are plenty of readers of that age, its also the age widely considered to be amongst the best time of your youth.

Yet plenty of people who enjoy anime didn't have their own "springtime of youth" so live vicariously through these stories. And over time, that becomes an addiction. The stories are just better than real life for them.

So when those people perceive some threat to their fantasy worlds, like a rival male or female character intruding upon their harem...they get wildly defensive.
 

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I thought mental BL would be like where the two dudes are total headfucks to each other. Like a double bunny boiler. Actually, I think I might be writing one of those, oo-er
 
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