[Mafia] Pandemonic Night Banquet (Justice Prevails!)

[Mellohwa]

Serius bet lu pada.

Seru soalnya wkwk

 

[OokamiOkuri]

Goon is mafioso/vanilla mafia.
This game have no vanilla mafia.

 

[OokamiOkuri]

Sry spoiler.

 

[OokamiOkuri]

(2) a random Mafia becomes Goon

Oh y lupa awkwkw

 

[OokamiOkuri]

So answer this, do you want remaining mafia to can't kill or lose their mafia support role and become Goon?

 

[Mellohwa]

A roleblock that cannot be (or rather, has not been) confirmed by Aaqil,
and a roleblock from a confirmed Town.

It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together.

You forgot to mentioned, why would a Mafia confirm that they got roleblocked?

TL;DR You agree we are indeed in a thunderdome. Good to know.

I don't even know what's that. This is only my second game for God sake.

Yeah. I lie all the time. But why did I lie this time, and why is lying "something scummy"?

I didn't say that didn't I? I only say I don't really trust you after you lied. Whoch is also my fault for trusting an Inactive player who claims to be a guest right of the bat.

I didn't know that "Mafia Support" cannot kill, so as I already explained before, I wanted to take the hit that Plus1 would take otherwise.

I also don't know that. Hence, my logic on the previous post I made earlier today.

 

[OokamiOkuri]

Or they must choose either to kill or block?

 

[Zone_Q11]

That's what I'm confused about. Which why I asked Plus1 the condition of his ability: is it random or can he pick his target?

It doesn't matter, actually. The matter of the fact remains that he got roleblocked; something which only you can do.

Serius bet lu pada.

...? I don't understand this one in particular.

Well... I'll just say that us—Town can still win if I'm alive. I can roleblock at night. And I trust @Amok and @Plus1 who's Townies like me. And that lead me to only have 1 target to roleblock.

Aaqil or Zone

Depending on who's gonna get lynch today.

With my roleblock, none of them can possibly kill one of us and by the time night ends with no one died....the answer is too obvious.

And if the plan that I stated above failed, you can still vote me next with your side having the majority.

There is one issue: The host has confirmed that only Mafia Killing can kill, and apparently Zirr is the only Mafia Killing. Because otherwise someone would have had to die by now. Aaqil is claiming neutral, and based on his claim and Zirr's flip we know that it is a Neutral Vengeful.

So, what happened on N2 was: You are a Mafia Support who could not kill anyone, so instead hide as much information as possible that town can get by roleblocking Plus1. At D2, Zirr was doomed the moment Plus1 claimed Onmyouji, so you bussed him to gain towncred.

 

[Aaqil]

You forgot to mentioned, why would a Mafia confirm that they got roleblocked?

Ah right, I'm supposed to talk,
I had absolutely no idea that you tried to block me, which was why I was so confused when you started talking about having blocked stuff, :p

 

[Mellohwa]

I... don't understand this, actually. From my POV, Mello is Evil Geisha, but neither Roleblocker nor Godfather belong to the category of "Killing Role".
The additional information also states "if they can't kill someone", but the only known role so far that is night-immune is... Zirr's role.

IF i really am an evil geisha which I'm not, why would my role information stated two pr on the Town's side? It's too much information, no?

 

[Aaqil]

Ah right, I'm supposed to talk,
I had absolutely no idea that you tried to block me, which was why I was so confused when you started talking about having blocked stuff, :p

Give me a second, I need to refresh my hydration meter, :p

 

[Zone_Q11]

@Mellohwa abis ini lu y yg host.

Kalo si anon msh mageran.

Baru juga game kedua ku.....dah disuruh ngehost >.>

Aku mau coba. o/
Ngomong2, kenapa ngga pake Inggris di sini?
(Dan ini... Kalian pake bahasa yg mana ya?)

Oh y lupa awkwkw

So answer this, do you want remaining mafia to can't kill or lose their mafia support role and become Goon?

Or they must choose either to kill or block?

(Well this is scuffed.)
I am currently a player, but if I were to be your reviewer pre-game, then I would have told you convert Consort to Goon at N2 since you already inherited Town of Salem's mechanic anyway.
However, considering we are in an ongoing game, then the only thing I can say is to just keep everything as is. People make mistakes all the time. Instead of hotfixing an ongoing game, learn from your mistakes in this game, and do better next time.

 

[OokamiOkuri]

Aku mau coba. o/
Ngomong2, kenapa ngga pake Inggris di sini?
(Dan ini... Kalian pake bahasa yg mana ya?)



(Well this is scuffed.)
I am currently a player, but if I were to be your reviewer pre-game, then I would have told you convert Consort to Goon at N2 since you already inherited Town of Salem's mechanic anyway.
However, considering we are in an ongoing game, then the only thing I can say is to just keep everything as is. People make mistakes all the time. Instead of hotfixing an ongoing game, learn from your mistakes in this game, and do better next time.

Zeebs bosque.

 

[OokamiOkuri]

Btw ngantri y si anon dari game kmrn2 bilang mau host.

 

[Mellohwa]

It doesn't matter, actually. The matter of the fact remains that he got roleblocked; something which only you can do.

Yes. Which is why I'm confused why did he get roleblocked(since I chose Aaqil)? The only other explanation from my side is, the support-type Mafia have that ability, to roleblock someone. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out which one on the Town side that possess the greatest threat against him.

There is one issue: The host has confirmed that only Mafia Killing can kill, and apparently Zirr is the only Mafia Killing. Because otherwise someone would have had to die by now. Aaqil is claiming neutral, and based on his claim and Zirr's flip we know that it is a Neutral Vengeful.

So, what happened on N2 was: You are a Mafia Support who could not kill anyone, so instead hide as much information as possible that town can get by roleblocking Plus1. At D2, Zirr was doomed the moment Plus1 claimed Onmyouji, so you bussed him to gain towncred.

I'll wait for @Plus1 side before I say anything more than I already said.

 

[Zone_Q11]

You forgot to mentioned, why would a Mafia confirm that they got roleblocked?

This would be forcing a world where Aaqil is Mafia though, except...
Unlike you, who are in your second game, this appears to be Aaqil's first game.
I don't think a newbie like Aaqil would lie about being a neutral.

I don't even know what's that. This is only my second game for God sake.

Thunderdome is basically socially forcing a certain amount of players (usually two) to be the main focus of the day's lynch.

I didn't say that didn't I?

No, but it is what you implied.

IF i really am an evil geisha which I'm not, why would my role information stated two pr on the Town's side? It's too much information, no?

...? In the first place, your claim of knowing two PRs (both of which are already revealed by Zirr by the way) cannot be proven.
Likewise, my Guest claim cannot be proven either.

 

[Aaqil]

Hydrated,
hmm, this is indeed quite the situation,

 

[Zone_Q11]

Zeebs bosque.

...? Ngga ngerti. Aku sudah teralu lama ngga pake bahasa ini untuk bicara. Sekarang sudah kaku.

Btw ngantri y si anon dari game kmrn2 bilang mau host.

Oke.
(Hm... Pake setup yg mana ya...)

Yes. Which is why I'm confused why did he get roleblocked(since I chose Aaqil)? The only other explanation from my side is, the support-type Mafia have that ability, to roleblock someone. And it doesn't take a genius to figure out which one on the Town side that possess the greatest threat against him.

So you are hypothesizing that there is a Town Roleblocker and a Mafia Roleblocker?
Meh. Occam's Razor* tells me that you're just Mafia Roleblocker.

*Occam's Razor is basically "upon being given two explanations where one is [long and confusing] and the other is [short and brief], the latter is generally better".

Spoiler: Explanation with image

 

[Aaqil]

I am going to assume all the Indonesian is of no importance to this game, and read the rest,

 

[Zone_Q11]

I am going to assume all the Indonesian is of no importance to this game, and read the rest,

Well, kinda. We are just talking about "the next game" (which should've been talked about in an OOC Thread but whatever) for the most part.

...oh, and there is also the part where the host distinguishes between "Mafia Killing" and "Mafia Support", and asks in public whether to fix Mafia's mechanics or not after realizing that they screwed up copy-pasting Town of Salem's Mafia system. Dunno what happened on this front though.