Suggestion Request: Plot Resolution (how to get home)

[TheEldritchGod]

Imagine Earth. Our earth.
Surround it in a cloud of Dark Matter/PLOTonium.
PLOTonium is anti-magic.
Ideas and thoughts are the building blocks of mana.
Earth, with it's 7.8 billion people and the internet connecting all those people is brimming with mana.
A crack appears and mana comes flooding out.
A LOT OF MANA COMES FLOODING OUT.

People start getting kidnapped via "hero summoning spells" but those spells only steal the soul and make a new body. To return a person home, they need a body to return to. Sometimes the original body dies and returning someone is impossible.

Because it's in the middle of a dead magic cloud, the rest of the universe can't just 'go' there. Only the crack in the PLOTonium is available for access to our earth, but it's like swimming up Niagra falls. No. It's like trying to swim up a garden hose if Lake Erie was being forced out said garden hose. EVERY SECOND.

You are a hero who's body had died.

You fight your way through multiple parallel universes, picking up other summoned heroes along the way who all want to go home, but they too lost their bodies.

You find yourself right next door to your original earth. You are in the Universe closest to home, but not quite. You are as close as you can get to the cloud of PLOTonium as you can get. When you look extra-dimensionally, you can see the giant fissure in the cloud of PLOTonium with energy just flooding out to the point it's blinding.

You, and every hero who came with you, is at their weakest. Getting this close to PLOTonium weakens you, but you aren't powerless, you are just depowered. Think a debuff reducing you to 10% strength. It's on a sliding scale. Oddly enough, heroes who got strong in worlds with low magic aren't as debuffed as people who got strong in high magic worlds. So if you were a hero with x100 XP gain gift from a god or some such nonsense, you're fucked. If you landed in a world where it took years to get to level 10, maybe you are only at level 5.

In other words, just PUNCHING your way back to Earth ain't gonna work.

You have access to just about any Isekai Hero/MC you can think of. They can be from any genre you want. They can work alone, or in groups.

How do you find a way to get home?

Bonus points on it being sly/creative/abuse of real world physics.
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I want to add, if you have an idea that requires someone on earth to help, assume that maybe you can figure out a way to communicate with scientists on earth, they recognize the problem, and using any real world science you can come up with, they can try to help from their side.

No MATERIAL could be sent up stream, but information can.

Also, lets add that the crack allows a 'little' bit of backwash. So any former hero who returned to earth because they had a body is available, but where as you are at 10% to 1% max power, they are at 1% to 0.01%.

Think of it this way.

On earth, there is no Experience Points. You leave earth and level up. When you get back to earth, your XP totals are reduced, but not wiped out entirely. You can't GAIN any more XPs back on earth, but you go have some of your more basical level shit.

So if we had say... Solo Leveling MC. Just outside earth, He's be at starting level shadow summoning, but back on earth, he'd be reduced to the point he was basically at starting level.

FFF-trash hero, on the other hand, spent YEARS leveling up. he was trapped in his hell for... god? what? 13 years so far? He'd lose all the GOD level powers he picked up, because those were universe specific, but he wouldn't lose all the training and hard work. Just outside Earth, he'd actually still be intensely powerful. Back on earth, he'd lose all of his cheats, but keep the XP, and most likely be WAY more powerful than Solo Leveling MC.

These are just off the cuff, subjective comparisons. We're not going to get into a debate of who would win in a fight.

FFF-Trash hero would never give up trying to get back to work, but he doesn't think sideways very well. He's a Punch his way to victory sort of MC. Solo Leveling MC would be far weaker, but he's used to using rules abuse to get things done, so he'd have a better time figuring this out.

Oh, and lets take Duex Ex Chrono off the table. Lets avoid Time Travel bullshit.

Time doesn't exist in all universes, and it doesn't in the universe just outside of earth, but does exist on earth, but is very difficult to control, so bad idea to fuck with it.

YES, there are theories about how time may not actually exist in the REAL world, right along with how gravity might be an emergent property, not an actual 4th force of nature. (we have yet to detect a graviton, BTW) The universe might not be expanding, but 'Slowing down' which would explain why the galactic Red Shift is everywhere. We assume there is 'time', but what we may be seeing is a 'rate of change'. However, in this request, lets just avoid that messy internal rule stuff and say:

NO TIME SHENANIGANS

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ADDENDUM:

When I mean 'real world science' I mean, any science from earth. If you have an idea that used defunct and disproven real world science form the 1800's, GO FOR IT.

Anything involving Ether, Monads, Spontaneous generation, or any other old, once believed to be true but now debunked scientific theory, BONUS POINTS.

And if you want to dig up Loop gravity, Planck Tetrahedrons, M-Theory, Quantum Mechanics or 'Hollow Earth Inversion' (the theory that we are actually living on the inside of a hollow planet), THEN YOU GET EXTRA INTERNET POINTS!

 

[Oakpoke]

These kinds of puzzles always have a simple solution, often the harder someone makes the challenge the easier loopholes are to find. You placed the planet in pure indestructibility and the only way in or out is a tiny crack that emits infinite energy into the void that pushes away all matter preventing anyone from entering. But your entire argument is made irrelevant by the fourth line, it requires humans to work. And while the crack pushes away all matter, it doesn’t effect souls, allowing hero’s to return if their original body still exists along with their powers albiet highly weakened.

So all you need to do is groom a summoned hero so they "kill" all of humanity. With no humans left to create energy the crack won’t be able to stop you from strolling right in with all your allies.

You don’t even need to actuality kill everyone for it to work, because that kind of ruins the purpose. Just teach the retuning hero sleep and ritual magic and then just repeat the process till you have enough people to cast a dreamless sleep ritual on the entire planet ala orv’s 1863rd regression arc reducing their thoughts to zero and presto all resistance lost. Now just enter the crack, stop the ritual, and everything goes back to normal.

Easy

 

[Plantorsomething]

Perpetual motion and basically anything from Harry Potter, also looney toones

 

[TheEldritchGod]

These kinds of puzzles always have simple solution, often the harder someone makes the challenge the easier loopholes are to find. You placed the planet in pure indestructibility and the only way in or out is a tiny crack that emits infinite energy into the void that pushes away all matter preventing anyone from entering. But your entire argument is made irrelevant by the fourth line, it requires humans to work. And while the crack pushes away all matter, it doesn’t effect souls, allowing hero’s to return if their original body still exists along with their powers albiet highly weakened.

So all you need to do is groom a summoned hero so they "kill" all of humanity. With no humans left to create energy the crack won’t be able to stop you from strolling right in with all your allies.

You don’t even need to actuality kill everyone for it to work, because that kind of ruins the purpose. Just teach the retuning hero sleep and ritual magic and then just repeat the process till you have enough people to cast a dreamless sleep ritual on the entire planet ala orv’s 1863rd regression arc reducing their thoughts to zero and presto all resistance lost. Now just enter the crack, stop the ritual, and everything goes back to normal.

Easy

Hummm... killing everyone on the planet. An interesting solution. Not... sure if it's very heroic, mind you, but yes. That would work. It would also render the purpose of returning home sort of moot, but I can see a villain choosing this solution.

Yes... that could be interesting.

Perpetual motion and basically anything from Harry Potter, also looney toones

Err... already established there are no infinities. So you can't just build up infinite energy and force your way past.
Harry Potter requires magic and the close you get, the weaker it gets, so while it is theoretically possible to just strong arm your way past, that really isn't an issue.

Think of it this way.

Your average human in the cosmos is a 1 on a log scale. so a 2 would be x10, 3 x100, etc etc etc.

So a planet might have 10 million people, but have a combined soul strength of 1 billion people.

Earth is around one Quatrillion. The combined unharnessed mana output of the planet, which has been storing up in this little bubble for thousands of years has started leaking out because it's just too much pressure.

So, one COULD just "Looney Toons" your way past the problem, but your looney toons character would have to have a soul strength of about 12. To put it on the richter scale, Imagine an earthquake so strong the earth vibrated into dust.

Your typical hero is about a 6 to 8. A 10 is considered the absolute upper limit, because a more 'dense' soul than a 10 undergoes gravitational collapse. You can only put so much energy in an area before it becomes a kugelblitz. So by the limitations of matter and energy, no one loony toon (basically an advanced aura user) would be able to force their way past.

And since Harry Potter is a wizard, he runs into the same problem. Now, there is oodles of energy to tap into, but the complexity of the spell is the problem.

Magic works by existing in the 'fuzzy' areas of the universe. Uncertainty is what allows magic. Think of the universe as a movie projected onto a screen. When the screen is far away, it gets 'bigger', but the people inside the movie wouldn't notice. However, the movie gets more 'fuzzy'. When Robert De Nero's mole is 30 feet wide, it loses... resolution.

The more 'fuzzy' the universe, the easier it is to manipulate it.

Dark matter gets in between the projector and the screen. Imagine you have your movie projector and put your hand in front of the lens. You would get a very small picture, but also really detailed. A Very sharp image. Magic can't work under those conditions. The more matter, the closer the image is to the projector, the less 'fuzz' and the more complex your spell has to be to work.

Now, the FORCE of the spell, the 'photons' of magic, if you will, is mana. Well, actually I'm using the science of Monads to explain it, by super imposing the concept of monads onto the same science structure as Quarks. Up/Down/Strange/Etc etc etc. So Souls would be made up of memetic Hadrons formed from monads where as the information/energy transferance is handled by Mana or the "Magic" version of a gauge Boson.

I hope that clarifies the situation.

 

[Oakpoke]

Hummm... killing everyone on the planet. An interesting solution. Not... sure if it's very heroic, mind you, but yes. That would work. It would also render the purpose of returning home sort of moot, but I can see a villain choosing this solution.

Yes... that could be interesting

I said kill for dramatic effect, I thought of the dreamless sleep thing first and it's what I would use in the scenario.

Killing everyone has no actual benefit. Why would you want to go back to a place that weakens you if not for the people. And it loses all strategic value if the crack isn't pushing everything away.

No, it's better to just stop people from thinking for a while and just starting everything back up once you're in.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

I said kill for dramatic effect, I thought of the dreamless sleep thing first and it's what I would use in the scenario.

Killing everyone has no actual benefit. Why would you want to go back to a place that weakens you if not for the people. And it loses all strategic value if the crack isn't pushing everything away.

No, it's better to just stop people from thinking for a while and just starting everything back up once you're in.

See my previous post since you posted.

Given the high resolution of earth, there simply isn't enough 'wiggle room' for something so complicated.

Furthermore, you would be fighting against a planet full of soul force 4 to 5 people, at a minimum. Overpowering the willpower of effectively a combined mental force of 1 quatrillion souls to stop them all from emitting bosons (mana) long enough for the stored up amount of energy to finally 'trickle out' simply seems to be far to complex a task.

No. One could not do it with magic. Or rather, if you WERE strong enough to do all that, you'd be easily strong enough to just force your way inside in the first place. And I know of no known non-magically way to make everyone on the planet stop thinking at the same time.

Well... not and have them SURVIVE the process, that is.

 

[Oakpoke]

See my previous post since you posted.

Given the high resolution of earth, there simply isn't enough 'wiggle room' for something so complicated.

Furthermore, you would be fighting against a planet full of soul force 4 to 5 people, at a minimum. Overpowering the willpower of effectively a combined mental force of 1 quatrillion souls to stop them all from emitting bosons (mana) long enough for the stored up amount of energy to finally 'trickle out' simply seems to be far to complex a task.

No. One could not do it with magic. Or rather, if you WERE strong enough to do all that, you'd be easily strong enough to just force your way inside in the first place. And I know of no known non-magically way to make everyone on the planet stop thinking at the same time.

Well... not and have them SURVIVE the process, that is.

Hence why I don't mean using a single person, get enough people to aid in the ritual and it's eventually going to work.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

And in case it matters the six types of Monads would be:

Up & Down
The combination of Up and down monads creates the vast majority of memetic 'matter' Most memetic matter is created from three monads being two up and one down, or two down and one up. The difference being the 'type' of mana it interacts with. The two down one up is considered a 'shadow' version of memetic matter, but doesn't actually have an 'evil' component to it. Best to think of it as Yin and Yang.

Strange - The strange monad is just that and usually is combined with one up and one down to create the memetic matter of the fae.

Angelic - One up, one down, and one Angelic leads to the type of memetic matter that is 'Higher' than most memetic matter. This is the stuff that makes up gods and angels.

Demonic - While not inherently 'evil' it is the monad that makes up demons and your typical Eldritch Horror. It the only Monad that when combined with and Up and Down monad has a real world Matter component. Ironically, without the demonic monad, interaction with the physical world would be impossible.

Heavy - The final Monad is the primary component of souls. One up, one down, and one Heavy Monad is the very building block of the human soul and the primary source for Mana. When enough Mementic Hadron matter is collected in one area, and it achieves at least a 'soul force' of 1, it becomes capable of 'free will'. Any soul with a soul force below 1, is incapable of self-determination and is considered an NPC.

This doesn't mean mean everyone under soul force of 1 is weak, or everyone of soul force 1+ has free will. You could have a soul force of 9 and technically not have free will, but such a situation is unlikely. Such beings are called NPCs. What the name means or why they are called such has been lost to the mists of time.

The exercising of free will results in the emitting of Memetic Gauge Bosons, known as Mana. Strange, Angelic, and Demonic also emits mana, but no where as strongly or as much as Heavy Monad Hadrons.

Next we get into the mana spectrum and how mana being perceived as a particle or a wave affects how it interacts with matter, but that's a whole other discussion.

Hence why I don't mean using a single person, get enough people to aid in the ritual and it's eventually going to work.

Assuming you could find say, a bunch of people at soul force 4. By proximity to the dark matter, they would be reduced to effectively 1. You would need to find, feed, give time to sleep, find oxygen for them to breathe, give them down time, toilets, and all the other day to day living needs of a quadrillion people, who could work in perfect harmony.

And move them all to the same universe.

Assuming we managed to find exceptional people soul force 8, reduced to a 5 by proximity. You would need 1 MILLION people of soul force 8 to pull off your little stunt.

Again, no infinities, so you can't just go visit an infinite number of universes until you find your 1 million heroes.

You have heroes ranging in soul force from 6 to 8, and maybe a few hundred, at best.

And I'm not being arbitrary here. I have very specific rules written down and any solution cannot break those rules. I admire your attempt to overpower the situation, but the use of magic in this manner is unlikely to work. Not automatically fail, I'm just looking at the numbers and saying, "Uhhh... no."

I mean if you had 1 million level 8 heroes, you could just build an umbrella that could resist the flow of mana and push it up into flow of mana while building a spiral staircase in a tube under said umbrella until you reached earth, then anchor it somehow. It'd certainly be less effort than trying to overpower the free will of 7.8 billion humans who would all certainly resist being told not to think. Especially when the average human is a 5.

Now killing everyone on the planet... that would be MUCH easier. Certainly solve the problem and yes, it would kill the goose that laid the golden egg, I'm sure there would be plenty of memetic energy crystalized all over the planet that an enterprising BBE could send minions in to strip mine the place for.

 

[Oakpoke]

And in case it matters the six types of Monads would be:

Up & Down
The combination of Up and down monads creates the vast majority of memetic 'matter' Most memetic matter is created from three monads being two up and one down, or two down and one up. The difference being the 'type' of mana it interacts with. The two down one up is considered a 'shadow' version of memetic matter, but doesn't actually have an 'evil' component to it. Best to think of it as Yin and Yang.

Strange - The strange monad is just that and usually is combined with one up and one down to create the memetic matter of the fae.

Angelic - One up, one down, and one Angelic leads to the type of memetic matter that is 'Higher' than most memetic matter. This is the stuff that makes up gods and angels.

Demonic - While not inherently 'evil' it is the monad that makes up demons and your typical Eldritch Horror. It the only Monad that when combined with and Up and Down monad has a real world Matter component. Ironically, without the demonic monad, interaction with the physical world would be impossible.

Heavy - The final Monad is the primary component of souls. One up, one down, and one Heavy Monad is the very building block of the human soul and the primary source for Mana. When enough Mementic Hadron matter is collected in one area, and it achieves at least a 'soul force' of 1, it becomes capable of 'free will'. Any soul with a soul force below 1, is incapable of self-determination and is considered an NPC.

This doesn't mean mean everyone under soul force of 1 is weak, or everyone of soul force 1+ has free will. You could have a soul force of 9 and technically not have free will, but such a situation is unlikely. Such beings are called NPCs. What the name means or why they are called such has been lost to the mists of time.

The exercising of free will results in the emitting of Memetic Gauge Bosons, known as Mana. Strange, Angelic, and Demonic also emits mana, but no where as strongly or as much as Heavy Monad Hadrons.

Next we get into the mana spectrum and how mana being perceived as a particle or a wave affects how it interacts with matter, but that's a whole other discussion.

Assuming you could find say, a bunch of people at soul force 4. By proximity to the dark matter, they would be reduced to effectively 1. You would need to find, feed, give time to sleep, find oxygen for them to breathe, give them down time, toilets, and all the other day to day living needs of a quadrillion people, who could work in perfect harmony.

And move them all to the same universe.

Assuming we managed to find exceptional people soul force 8, reduced to a 5 by proximity. You would need 1 MILLION people of soul force 8 to pull off your little stunt.

Again, no infinities, so you can't just go visit an infinite number of universes until you find your 1 million heroes.

You have heroes ranging in soul force from 6 to 8, and maybe a few hundred, at best.

And I'm not being arbitrary here. I have very specific rules written down and any solution cannot break those rules. I admire your attempt to overpower the situation, but the use of magic in this manner is unlikely to work. Not automatically fail, I'm just looking at the numbers and saying, "Uhhh... no."

I mean if you had 1 million level 8 heroes, you could just build an umbrella that could resist the flow of mana and push it up into flow of mana while building a spiral staircase in a tube under said umbrella until you reached earth, then anchor it somehow. It'd certainly be less effort than trying to overpower the free will of 7.8 billion humans who would all certainly resist being told not to think. Especially when the average human is a 5.

Now killing everyone on the planet... that would be MUCH easier. Certainly solve the problem and yes, it would kill the goose that laid the golden egg, I'm sure there would be plenty of memetic energy crystalized all over the planet that an enterprising BBE could send minions in to strip mine the place for.

Fine, I'll just summon all the people on Earth then dreamless sleep them outside of the barrier, then I'll return to Earth with them all in tow.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

Fine, I'll just summon all the people on Earth then dreamless sleep them outside of the barrier, then I'll return to Earth with them all in tow.

Uh... look. If you aren't taking this seriously, please don't bother. It is sloppy thinking like yours that results in plot holes. I work out everything ahead of time and stick to my rules. if you don't understand the rules or just choose to ignore them, that's on you.

You could certain summon SOME people out of the world, but we come back to the problem of how are you going to overpower the situation? And assuming you did all that, it's not going to stop the flow instantly. You are going to have to wait.

Lets be kind. Lets say, 8 hours. It's most likely going to take years to fully drain, but lets say.. 8 hours.

So every man, woman, and child on the planet falls over in a coma for 8 hours at the very same instant. Any idea how many people would die?

And if I was able to summon forth 7.8 million people where a whole 20% of them are of Heroic level power, in that 8 hours, each and every one of them is going to be like Kryptonians under a yellow sun. Within that 8 hours they will absorb enough raw mana to to be a serious threat. I know you seem to think this 'dreamless sleep' thing would work automatically, but if it fails on even 0.01%, you are going to have several THOUSAND super-humans running around and they are going to be PISSED.

Do you think they're just going to let you send them back? What are you going to do with the 10% that died because they were driving a car? If you got summoned somewhere that you got the powers of SUPERMAN, would you just let them return you 8 hours later?

I wouldn't.

And let's say you summon them WITH their bodies, we return to the same problem of suddenly the world doesn't have any humans running it. Every major city is now on fire. Trust me. Just every moving car crashing on the planet at the same time would create fires ALONE.

This is a question that is about solving a narrative situation.

WHO WOULD WANT TO READ YOUR SOLUTION?

Would you? You spend all this time building up to a problem. It's huge. It's insurmountable. HOW WILL THE HEROES SOLVE THIS??

By ignoring pre-established rules and basically having the author hand wave shit.

I'll burn my book before I push such utter nonsense on my readers.

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I really didn't want to do it, but I think I'm going to have to go the "Take a chunk of universe, attach a wormhole to that chunk of universe, then ram that chunk of universe into earth" solution. I can't come up with anything more elegant. If the incoming chunk of universe is moving fast enough and angled correctly in the higher dimensions, it should be able to enter orbit.

Either that or we're getting a Tunguska blast of 1908 situation.

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Of course the other solution would be to find a parallel world and force it to merge with earth then ride the merging world in, but doing so would cause billions of people to have two sets of memories as they remember living both lives at the same time while people who are alive in one world but dead in the other "come back from the dead" as far as everyone else is concerned.

Hmmm... yes.... that is a very nice evil solution... I like that... hrmmm...

 

[Oakpoke]

Uh... look. If you aren't taking this seriously, please don't bother. It is sloppy thinking like yours that results in plot holes. I work out everything ahead of time and stick to my rules. if you don't understand the rules or just choose to ignore them, that's on you.

You could certain summon SOME people out of the world, but we come back to the problem of how are you going to overpower the situation? And assuming you did all that, it's not going to stop the flow instantly. You are going to have to wait.

Lets be kind. Lets say, 8 hours. It's most likely going to take years to fully drain, but lets say.. 8 hours.

So every man, woman, and child on the planet falls over in a coma for 8 hours at the very same instant. Any idea how many people would die?

And if I was able to summon forth 7.8 million people where a whole 20% of them are of Heroic level power, in that 8 hours, each and every one of them is going to be like Kryptonians under a yellow sun. Within that 8 hours they will absorb enough raw mana to to be a serious threat. I know you seem to think this 'dreamless sleep' thing would work automatically, but if it fails on even 0.01%, you are going to have several THOUSAND super-humans running around and they are going to be PISSED.

Do you think they're just going to let you send them back? What are you going to do with the 10% that died because they were driving a car? If you got summoned somewhere that you got the powers of SUPERMAN, would you just let them return you 8 hours later?

I wouldn't.

And let's say you summon them WITH their bodies, we return to the same problem of suddenly the world doesn't have any humans running it. Every major city is now on fire. Trust me. Just every moving car crashing on the planet at the same time would create fires ALONE.

This is a question that is about solving a narrative situation.

WHO WOULD WANT TO READ YOUR SOLUTION?

Would you? You spend all this time building up to a problem. It's huge. It's insurmountable. HOW WILL THE HEROES SOLVE THIS??

By ignoring pre-established rules and basically having the author hand wave shit.

I'll burn my book before I push such utter nonsense on my readers.

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I really didn't want to do it, but I think I'm going to have to go the "Take a chunk of universe, attach a wormhole to that chunk of universe, then ram that chunk of universe into earth" solution. I can't come up with anything more elegant. If the incoming chunk of universe is moving fast enough and angled correctly in the higher dimensions, it should be able to enter orbit.

Either that or we're getting a Tunguska blast of 1908 situation.

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Of course the other solution would be to find a parallel world and force it to merge with earth then ride the merging world in, but doing so would cause billions of people to have two sets of memories as they remember living both lives at the same time while people who are alive in one world but dead in the other "come back from the dead" as far as everyone else is concerned.

Hmmm... yes.... that is a very nice evil solution... I like that... hrmmm...

Okay I probably should have checked beforehand, but exactly how much power do I have available while at max, because I was under the assumption that you could have up to casual planet buster levels of power?

I mean really, the entire premise was that after going on a multiversal adventure to try and get back home. By the end of that I'm pretty sure I would be a half-step away from a god; the Great Sage, Master of the Arcane Arts, the stars only exist because he lets them etc etc...
So with that kind of power along with similarly powerful allies willing to lend me their mana as well as the cores of powerful beasts that could eat entire solar systems in systems in one bite I'm pretty sure that I could mass summon the entirety of Earth's population in one go before immediatly casting dreamless sleep on the entire group before they could realize what happened.
(Since you obviously haven't read orv, (otherwise you would know how utterly stupid someone dying while under dreamless sleep sounds) I will explain the spell. The pentultimate challenge of the Earth scenarios is scouring the world for five dragon-slaying swords guarded by powerful minibosses which you put in a giant floating orb to reach the final scenario: fighting a giant dragon stronger than most gods. But if you place a false dragon-slaying sword instead, dreamless sleep gets casted on the entire world making everyone fall into the "dreamless sleep" forever. This essentially puts the world in eternal stasis, and while nothing can truely die, it is close enough to count for the scenarios which is why I said you needed to "kill" all of humanity in my first post. But if you replicate that spell while adding an off switch you could transport all humans completely fine.)
And any destruction caused by the sudden mass summoning could be easily fixed because I can bring mana batteries to power a fix everything ritual.

And for the record, I have been taking this completely seriously the whole time. You gave a nigh-impossible challenge with all the cards stacked against us, and I beat it. When the game was rigged against me I played a different game and found the simple solution. And when that didn't work according to your rules I found another way and that angered you because it wasn't the way you wanted it.
If anything, you are the one not taking it seriously. In your first post you made it seem like the plot wall was both completely indestructable and impermeable, but apparently you can go through it by being fast enough or fusing parralel universes? With both your solutions causing more bloodshed than my harmless "put the whole world in stasis plan". If you hadn't suggested its indestructability the first thing I would have suggested was a kinetic bombardment until it breaks.
You say what I did would be a bad "narrative choice" when in reality you just put too much focus on a problem that a nerd solved in less than fifteen minutes.

Easy