A sort of writer help thing for us newcomers

aimless

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Basically, you read the first chapter of my webnovel, give criticism, and I’ll do the same

 

ModernGold7ne

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I read everything.

You have too much commentary, that does not add anything of value to the story.

You lied in chapter two when you said there would be only one pov.

There's a large unfilled space in chapter 3, backspace a bit.

In chapter 4 the name Damien was repeated too many times, your readers are just going to skip it.

There was way too much telling and not enough showing.

Your presentation could use some work, right now it's quite glaring.

I suggest you use italics for font.

There's a whole guide for the text editor in the Discussion and writing tips section of the forum, it's pinned to the top.

Overall I'll say I found your story interesting.

Rather than feedback here, I'd prefer if you commented on my two chapters in the story below.

 

aimless

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I read everything.

You have too much commentary, that does not add anything of value to the story.

You lied in chapter two when you said there would be only one pov.

There's a large unfilled space in chapter 3, backspace a bit.

In chapter 4 the name Damien was repeated too many times, your readers are just going to skip it.

There was way too much telling and not enough showing.

Your presentation could use some work, right now it's quite glaring.

I suggest you use italics for font.

There's a whole guide for the text editor in the Discussion and writing tips section of the forum, it's pinned to the top.

Overall I'll say I found your story interesting.

Rather than feedback here, I'd prefer if you commented on my two chapters in the story below.

Oh, I forgot to change the part of chapter 2, done now thanks, the chapter 3 backspace I think it’s due to the fact that I’m copy pasting my chapters from the wn version, fixed and the others will be something I’ll work on
 

TheEldritchGod

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I think you are in the wrong section, This should be under writer feedback.
 

TheEldritchGod

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Yelany: Your Legacy.

This is your opening sentence? This is your 'hook'? Actually, your real opening sentence is:


My favourite game, and it was one of a kind.

First of all, favourite is spelled favorite.

You have a spelling error in your opener.

Do... Do I really need to explain how BAD this is? Seriously? The site has a spell checker. Even in this post it is underlining the word in red. When you see that, right click and pick the word that is spelled correctly. You are insulting me that you cannot use the built in spell checker on the website.

IGNORING THAT...

Why do I care? What is the 'hook'? What is supposed to interest me? You live and DIE by that first sentence. You are telling me, There is a game, it is called Yelany and it is one of a kind and your favorite game. You goal is to get me to read the next paragraph. It's one of a kind is the only hook here. Guess what? Ever game is unique.

You see, Yelany was no ordinary game. It was a FIVR Open World magic game, and it was one of a kind! I grew up playing it, and I loved the variety of different characters. The MC was an absolutely amazing human being, the characters felt.. real. But the thing was, in this game, there wasn't just one quest line you had to follow. You could become anything or anyone, if you modded the game correctly. I was playing, and was just about to reach 90% favorability with my favourite character, when I got a notification.

You tell me it is one of a kind, TWICE. Avoid using the same word or phrase more than once in a chapter if you can, but never... EVER... use it in the SAME PARAGRAPH. It is like nails on a chalkboard. It is an insult. YOU ARE TELLING ME I AM SO STUPID I FORGOT WHAT YOU SAID TWO SENTENCES PREVIOUSLY.

What? Am I a joke to you? Am I a clown? Am I here to amuse you? You wanna fight story? OH, I'LL GIVE YOU A FIGHT, STORY!!!

I grew up, I loved, I was playing...

Who the fuck are you? Who is talking to me? Why do I care? Your story is about the game, not about YOU. At least, that's what you have written. You are a formless, blob that is an advertisement for a game that actually seems totally common to me. It sounds like skyrim. It sounds like Fallout 4.

I have modded my fallout 4 game into a endless cavalcade of terror, lovecraftian monsters and vampires that relentlessly try to murder me in a omnipresent fog that never ends. Periodically the sun DIES for a few minutes and you can only see for a few feet in front of you while a siren blares and horror leaps out at you from every direction and all you can do is run to some place, put your back against the wall and hope your reflexes are fast enough.

Lets see a show of hands, who wants to play MY fallout 4 and who wants to play YOUR game?

EDIT:

Sorry. Got interrupted.

My point is, your first sentence is live or die. It is what makes someone read the next paragraph.

The first paragraph is your sales pitch. You need to SELL the rest of the story. You need to convince me the rest of the chapter is worth my time. You are asking me to spend TIME on you. Convince me my time will be well spent here. You have a favorite game that you have described in the most generic terms possible. It doesn't sound One of a kind. It sounds... dull.

I'm being far more aggressive here then most readers would be, but the truth is, the average reader will look at this and be... bored. They won't be offended, they'll be worse than offended. They'll be disinterested.

Take a stand. Take a risk. Put your best foot forward. Even if you describe a game people will hate, it is better it is a game I hate then a game I couldn't care less about.

Nothing is worse than being boring.
 
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Linko

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Yea, I can do that but are you sure it's just the first chapter?
 

ModernGold7ne

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This is your opening sentence? This is your 'hook'? Actually, your real opening sentence is:




First of all, favourite is spelled favorite.

You have a spelling error in your opener.

Do... Do I really need to explain how BAD this is? Seriously? The site has a spell checker. Even in this post it is underlining the word in red. When you see that, right click and pick the word that is spelled correctly. You are insulting me that you cannot use the built in spell checker on the website.

IGNORING THAT...

Why do I care? What is the 'hook'? What is supposed to interest me? You live and DIE by that first sentence. You are telling me, There is a game, it is called Yelany and it is one of a kind and your favorite game. You goal is to get me to read the next paragraph. It's one of a kind is the only hook here. Guess what? Ever game is unique.



You tell me it is one of a kind, TWICE. Avoid using the same word or phrase more than once in a chapter if you can, but never... EVER... use it in the SAME PARAGRAPH. It is like nails on a chalkboard. It is an insult. YOU ARE TELLING ME I AM SO STUPID I FORGOT WHAT YOU SAID TWO SENTENCES PREVIOUSLY.

What? Am I a joke to you? Am I a clown? Am I here to amuse you? You wanna fight story? OH, I'LL GIVE YOU A FIGHT, STORY!!!

I grew up, I loved, I was playing...

Who the fuck are you? Who is talking to me? Why do I care? Your story is about the game, not about YOU. At least, that's what you have written. You are a formless, blob that is an advertisement for a game that actually seems totally common to me. It sounds like skyrim. It sounds like Fallout 4.

I have modded my fallout 4 game into a endless cavalcade of terror, lovecraftian monsters and vampires that relentlessly try to murder me in a omnipresent fog that never ends. Periodically the sun DIES for a few minutes and you can only see for a few feet in front of you while a siren blares and horror leaps out at you from every direction and all you can do is run to some place, put your back against the wall and hope your reflexes are fast enough.

Lets see a show of hands, who wants to play MY fallout 4 and who wants to play YOUR game?
Favorite and favourite are both correct, it is spelt differently in different part of the worlds.
According to my auto correct which is set to UK english, favorite is spelt wrong, but that's false, the spelling was just the American version.
 

TheEldritchGod

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Favorite and favourite are both correct, it is spelt differently in different part of the worlds.
According to my auto correct which is set to UK english, favorite is spelt wrong, but that's false, the spelling was just the American version.
Huh. My bad.
 

CadmarLegend

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Huh. My bad.
Many words are different in American English and British English. Honor? Honour. Favorite? Favourite. Humor? Humour. Basically, anything with -or will probably become -our.

British English tends to keep the spellings it absorbed from other languages, such as German and French, whilst American English writes out words how they sound.

Also, the site does not have a spell checker. I think you have Grammarly installed on your computer/device.

 
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