are we alone in this universe?

CupcakeNinja

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are we alone in this universe?

Hey, I'm back here to gather some more opinions

Now is a discussion that we may have often heard

are we alone in this universe?

is there anything out there?

aliens? or maybe a monster?

So far, the same question keeps repeating itself

are we the only ones in this universe?

is there anything else out there?

there is no definite answer because the universe is so wide

So here I want to ask if you believe there is another life out there?

If you like, please give your opinion
We arent alone. Thats obvious. The only real question that matters is: are they fuckable?
 

SilvCrimBlac

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If going by standard statistics, just our galaxy, the Milky Way, has between 800 billion and 3.2 trillion planets, Earth just being one of these. Then consider the fact there are an estimated 2.1 trillion galaxies, that are the same size as our own Milky Way, many billions of which that are even larger than the Milky Way. The Milky Way is actually fairly low-average to average in size when compared to just the nearby galaxies, never mind the distant ones.

Then you have to think of the Galaxy clusters, meaning how galaxies are grouped into larger "districts" or whatever. I forget the technical term. Anyway, our galaxy, the Milky Way galaxy is part of a Supercluster of 100,000 galaxies called the Lankaea Cluster. Think about it, around 2.1 trillion galaxies confirmed, and our own galaxy is just part of a thick group of them numbering only 100,000 in number. Than another humbling truth is: The Lankaea Supercluster of galaxies is considered a bit of a backwater area in the universe, meaning its sparsely populated, as far as landmasses floating in space go, and then even more humbling is the fact that we are in a very backwater region of the Lankaea Cluster, which is already considered backwater. So, we are in the boonies of the boonies of the boonies.

All of this means that its very likely that the only reason we haven't met other intelligent life, is because we are in the middle of fucking nowhere, as far as space goes. Like, imagine a single itty-bitty housefly living in a jungle the size of the entire continent of South America. Literally, it is the only house fly in existence in the entire continent. We are that housefly, and the continent of South America is the boonies. According to statistics, we are so outrageously in the middle of nowhere and away from ANYTHING of significance, that its possible that our sun poofs and destroys this whole solar system, and it'll still be trillions and trillions and trillions and trillions of years before anything even has the faintest idea that we, or anything at all, ever lived and breathed here.

But aside from all of this, statistically, with between 800 billion and 3.2 trillion planets alone in just our galaxy, the numbers I last read are, there has to be AT THE VERY LEAST, a little over 80+ million planets with life that would again, AT THE VERY LEAST be as intelligent as regular animals like cats, dogs, tigers, wolves, etc. So if nothing else, there are shitloads of planets that are going through their own version of the Pliocene Era, which was the last era in which mammals still dominated the planet but still no form of what is considered a "human ancestor" had arrived yet. So I still get my giant Terror Birds, but I don't have to worry about pesky human-ape-ancestor things
 
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"Life" is just a configuration of particles that we have decided to call life, and the particles in those configurations we call "life" aren't really doing anything different, compared to particles in other configurations... and the configurations them selves aren't doing anything at all... because there is no such thing as "configuration itself".

We may conceptualize some configurations of particles as things, such as "humans", and we may conceptualize activities of those particles as activities of the "human", but everytime a "human" does something, it is in truth some of the particles that constitute that "human" that actually does something, and everytime something happens to a "human", it is in truth happening to some of the particles.

At the end of the day, there is no such thing as "human"... We are particles subject to delusion of being humans... That is all...

And... Particles are everywhere... Most aren't lucky or unfortunate enough to be subject to such things though...
 
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are we alone in this universe?

Hey, I'm back here to gather some more opinions

Now is a discussion that we may have often heard

are we alone in this universe?

is there anything out there?

aliens? or maybe a monster?

So far, the same question keeps repeating itself

are we the only ones in this universe?

is there anything else out there?

there is no definite answer because the universe is so wide

So here I want to ask if you believe there is another life out there?

If you like, please give your opinion
I believe alien life exists because I find it to be impossible that only one planet in the whole universe has life,

Like for real, even if in the milky way galaxy has only one planet with life there are other galaxies with their own planets.
Also what makes us think that aliens would be more advanced than us and expect them to contact us when we can't contact them.

So yeah there is life in other planets with life in the universe
 

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I think we have more evidence to suggest we are alone rather than otherwise. We are already pretty good at scanning the immensity of space, but so far we have found absolutely nothing. Sure the universe is huge, but it is not infinite, and the coincidences (or divine will, whatever you may believe) needed for life to appear, are so slim, it may not be big enough. The thing is, we don't know what the exact probability of life appearing is, so we can't come to a definite conclusion
 

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You're all ignoring the fact that the origin of human life was as likely as winning the lottery thousand times in a row.

The story of humanity is a badly written monster evolution story.
 

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I think we have more evidence to suggest we are alone rather than otherwise. We are already pretty good at scanning the immensity of space, but so far we have found absolutely nothing...
Even if there were "intelligent", technological civilization like ours in the very nearest star system right now, transmitting radio signals, polluting their planets, etc, just like we do... we with our "pretty good at scanning" wouldn't be able to detect anything...
 

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Even if there were "intelligent", technological civilization like ours in the very nearest star system right now, transmitting radio signals, polluting their planets, etc, just like we do... we with our "pretty good at scanning" wouldn't be able to detect
The thing is, we would. With our current technology, we can detect signals from a civilization of our approximate level up to 500 parsecs. That is a long way away.
This is of course still tiny compared to the immensity of the universe, but it allows us to know with relative certainty that we are at least alone in our corner of the galaxy.

However, it is important to note we cannot detect a stone age or lower civilization, though we can determine if the planet is capable of supporting life as we know it). Also, if their technology advances too far, it may once again become invisible, as they start radiating thing we are not scanning for.

One answer is that life is very rare. We know that intelligent life appearing on earth is nothing short of miraculous, but just how unlikely was it really? In the end, with only one data point the earth), is almost impossible to determine if the universe is big enough for such a freak coincidence to occur twice, ten times, a thousand times, or trillions and trillions of time.

Another aspect, the dark forest theory, is that there might be an uncountable number of civilization right near us, but they intentionally hide themselves, because revealing themselves to potentially hostile neighbors would only lead to annihilation.

One last thing to consider is that aliens could be very alien. The only form of life we know is that of earth, but who is to say aliens would be the same? if they are too different from us, we might not be able to discover them even if we met face to face.

There are a multitude of reasons we may not be seeing traces of aliens everywhere in the universe, but the fact we have to provide an explanation is a point against the existence of the aliens. Far from conclusive, which is why in the end, we can only make educated guesses, considering plenty of variables that we have no way of knowing the true value of.
Also what makes us think that aliens would be more advanced than us and expect them to contact us when we can't contact them.
We do not know what the likelihood of another life bearing planet existing is. we can estimate it, but we lack data to compare, so such estimation would be heavily affected by survivors bias.

However, if life is common, it is unfathomably unlikely that we are the first civilization to advance this far. There is absolutely no reason to think that would be the case. Life on earth is 3.5 billion years old, but the universe is 14 billion years old. If life can form easily, then it is unthinkable that the first signs of life waited 10 billion years to form.
 
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