Chinese novels are trash!

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AS i said it's utter trash. The same xianxia shit. The there are some bl too. Manhua are trash too. Those art are utter garbage unlike manhwa(webtoon). LOTM is the only cn that i read was actually good. If you think otherwise tell me why?
 

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I can't exactly disagree with you. I personally don't like manhwa, xianxia, or wuxia. However, there are plenty of people who do. Yeah, they mostly have the same premise with copy-pasted 2d characters but there are a few that aren't those same crappy stories. I just have yet to find them.
 

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Well there are some but it's because of our preference that it made us dislike them. I love to waste time reading them.

The only time I devoted on reading and watching a Chinese work is that The King's Avatar ( Have anime, manga and novel ) , The Legendary Mechanic ( comic and novel ) , Reborn of The Transcendent ( novel ) and 'I'm really not the demon's lackey' although I just used GTranslate to read them to caught on the novel and some need money to unlock and be able to read which is pretty sad because I want to read more.
 
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Well there are some but it's because of our preference that it made us dislike them. I love to waste time reading them.

The only time I devoted on reading and watching a Chinese work is that The King's Avatar , The Legendary Mechanic, Reborn of The Transcendent and I'm really not the demon's lackey although I just used GTranslate to read them and some need money to unlock.
Kings avatar? I watched first few episodes.
I don't like legenddary mechanic but heard it's good but had shitty ending or something.
I don't know about the third.
 

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Kings avatar? I watched first few episodes.
I don't like legenddary mechanic but heard it's good but had shitty ending or something.
I don't know about the third.
Yeah, pretty good already had it's 2 season ( waiting for the 3rd while it already had a tv adaptation )

Yeah, It's kinda good but I never gotten that part on the ending but I'm only I think 3/4 part of the story before I left it

3rd is MC brought back in the past, been hunted and decide to beta-test in a virtual game becoming a girl ingame due to some roulette wheel and slowly becoming too in real life.
 

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Yeah, pretty good already had it's 2 season ( waiting for the 3rd while it already had a tv adaptation )

Yeah, It's kinda good but I never gotten that part on the ending but I'm only I think 3/4 part of the story before I left it

3rd is MC brought back in the past, been hunted and decide to beta-test in a virtual game becoming a girl ingame due to some roulette wheel and slowly becoming too in real life.
Somewhat unique premise of a gamer but i didn't hit me.
I would have preferredd if it was like overlord or soemthing . I mean the transporting part only
 

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Well, it's just preference. I love Chinese novels a lot and all them is bl and they are really good. I can't say anything for non-bl c-novels, Donghua and Manhua but whatever I've read really made me love them so much. Read any of the below I've mentioned then come to talk again.

1. Tian Guan Ci Fu
2. Can Ci Pin
3. Game Loading
4. Copper Coins
5. Nan Chan
6. Qiang Jin Jiu
7. The Dumb Husky And His White Cat Shizun (Don't be fooled by the name. It's one of the best.)
8. Yu Wu
9. Qian Qiu
10. Peerless
11. Seizing Dreams
12. Sa Ye
13. The Earth Is Online
14. Little Mushroom (Again, don't go on the title)
15. Quickly Wear The Face of The Devil
16. Global Examination
17. Kaleidoscope of Death
18. Sha Po Lang
19. Lie Huo Jiao Chou
20. The Ultimate Blue Seal
21. Don’t Pick Up Boyfriends From the Trash Bin
22. Liu Yao: The Revitalization of Fuyao Sect
23. First-Class Lawyer
24. Panguan
25. Case File Compendium

Sorry, got too excited. And they're all bl (Danmei)
 

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AS i said it's utter trash. The same xianxia shit. The there are some bl too. Manhua are trash too. Those art are utter garbage unlike manhwa(webtoon). LOTM is the only cn that i read was actually good. If you think otherwise tell me why?
Light novels are trash because out of 27 of them only 2,27 please me.

It is the same reasoning that you use for Xianxia, and I am only trying to show you how wrong you are.

Litrpgs are also trash, because the same setting is happier all the time.

Everyone know how much the statement above is wrong.
Like in every genre, Xianxia has a charm that only people like it can explain.


As for the fact that it is repetitive, it is not because of the genre itself but because of the author who copy-paste. It is highly demanded and most authors just want to follow the floor.

Like any genre, it is a little tiring after you take too much of it.
There is rough diamonds. And there are precious pearls that everyone wants to counterfeit.
Kindly, a Xianxia plagiarist
 

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I don't really like them, they're pretty much a prime example of "made in china": Something that may have been popular once, but with reduced quality and made to flood the market. Makes me wonder if the Isekai trend didn't start in China ?

They don't even use the good tropes or they use them utterly wrong. They're just there for those edgy teens that think they're hot shit but totally aren't. Kind of like how Isekai and Romcoms are for social outcasts that think the world's at fault.

At least Koreans are honest with their MMO addiction and try to justify it by ((for koreans) plausible) means of monetization. I'm not saying that those "grind-novels" are good or anything. They're just as bad as JP or C, they're just more honest with their social problems. Though I'm totally sure they didn't intend to be.

All "three" representative (yeah, I know Isekai and Romcom are two genres, same with the chinese ones) have some works that are actually good (unlike those vampire fantasy romances that STILL seem to flood the fantasy sections decades after 99 Shades of Vampire Glitter) and there are fans for even the bad ones.

Still, if 99% of a genre sucks, maybe we should think for a moment. Maybe there's room for margin and maybe we just like junkfood. MAYBE the things we like are actually objectively bad? ?
 

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Can’t agree. The aesthetics of newer 3d donghua is miles above classic anime.

Sure, there are really repetitive stuff out there, but you can’t say all are trash. There are also a lot of isekai trash out there, probably just as much as Xianxia. Can’t say that manwha/krnovel are superior either, because a lot start good but fudge up the ending.
 

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AS i said it's utter trash. The same xianxia shit. The there are some bl too. Manhua are trash too. Those art are utter garbage unlike manhwa(webtoon). LOTM is the only cn that i read was actually good. If you think otherwise tell me why?
Yes.
 
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Nods, it's been steadily developing over the last few years. Still wonders if it will just move towards some kind of artistic singularity or create something we have not experienced at all...

the Ink style in

I quite like tho.
 

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Some of them are decent too, you know, like cultivation chat group, the soul land series, though they are way too long for me to be able to keep an interest in them. But yeah 99% of manhua is trash.
 
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Someday, I wish to make it better. Or someday for better stories in those genres to come up again. Heard so much bad tropes in those genres lately. What used to read was better.
 
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Well, it's just preference. I love Chinese novels a lot and all them is bl and they are really good. I can't say anything for non-bl c-novels, Donghua and Manhua but whatever I've read really made me love them so much. Read any of the below I've mentioned then come to talk again.

1. Tian Guan Ci Fu
2. Can Ci Pin
3. Game Loading
4. Copper Coins
5. Nan Chan
6. Qiang Jin Jiu
7. The Dumb Husky And His White Cat Shizun (Don't be fooled by the name. It's one of the best.)
8. Yu Wu
9. Qian Qiu
10. Peerless
11. Seizing Dreams
12. Sa Ye
13. The Earth Is Online
14. Little Mushroom (Again, don't go on the title)
15. Quickly Wear The Face of The Devil
16. Global Examination
17. Kaleidoscope of Death
18. Sha Po Lang
19. Lie Huo Jiao Chou
20. The Ultimate Blue Seal
21. Don’t Pick Up Boyfriends From the Trash Bin
22. Liu Yao: The Revitalization of Fuyao Sect
23. First-Class Lawyer
24. Panguan
25. Case File Compendium

Sorry, got too excited. And they're all bl (Danmei)
I'm no homosexual so no. But if the story is too good i guess i would reluctantly read
Light novels are trash because out of 27 of them only 2,27 please me.

It is the same reasoning that you use for Xianxia, and I am only trying to show you how wrong you are.

Litrpgs are also trash, because the same setting is happier all the time.

Everyone know how much the statement above is wrong.
Like in every genre, Xianxia has a charm that only people like it can explain.


As for the fact that it is repetitive, it is not because of the genre itself but because of the author who copy-paste. It is highly demanded and most authors just want to follow the floor.

Like any genre, it is a little tiring after you take too much of it.
There is rough diamonds. And there are precious pearls that everyone wants to counterfeit.
Kindly, a Xianxia plagiarist
First of all i'm never wrong.
Second i don't really like litrpg
Third xiaxia has a charm. Your eyes have rotten it seems. It contains nothing of sorts. I don't know how a big empire like china produces this stuff.
Well author of course have some faults but the thing is those are based on chinese mythology or something like that idk. So xianxia itself have some problem too.
Makes me wonder whether tho author's are writing fanfiction.
Anyways i meant no offense to you ofc.
Praise the lady!

While LOTM is still my number 1 CN, Reverend Insanity is good too.
You heathen! Praise Mr fool.

Revered insanity? I will read that later...
 
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I'm no homosexual so no. But if the story is too good i guess i would reluctantly read
You don't have to be a homosexual to read a bl/homosexual novel. IDK how you got the idea. You're just missing out on something really good if that's how think.

Well, I'm not forcing you for anything but saying that Chinese novels are trash is just a bit too much.

How many c-novel have you even read to state that? Maybe you're preference is just different than what the c-novel offer and that is not the fault of the novels.
 

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You don't have to be a homosexual to read a bl/homosexual novel. IDK how you got the idea. You're just missing out on something really good if that's how think.

Well, I'm not forcing you for anything but saying that Chinese novels are trash is just a bit too much.

How many c-novel have you even read to state that? Maybe you're preference is just different than what the c-novel offer and that is not the fault of the novels.
Well i never said you could not. It's just mostly toxic that's why.
Even tho i'm not homo i still have husbandos(i.e.eren) so yeah?
When i said trash i mostly meant xianxia. And you might say it's preference but idk...
 

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Chinese fiction is the bottom feeder of all East Asian literature. They serve their best purpose as kindling for my fireplace. In all aspects, they exist to make Japanese and Korean works look better. Japanese are the mid-grade, They can create wonderful worlds, but their idea of a good character is nauseating. If they could drop the beta's, white knights, dense MC's, and the "you should never kill" shounen cunts, they'd be great. But Japan likes their male MC's to be recognizably sympathetic to the world's doormats and underdogs so I suppose that isn't happening anytime soon.

The Shounen genre is in general, one of the biggest failings in Japanese works. Anytime I found myself enjoying something of that genre, the main character nearly always ruined it for me.

Korean works are by far the best. Yes, they occasionally fall into the exact same pitfalls that Chinese and Japanese works do, but they do it far less often. Hell, Koreans do wuxia better than any Chinese novelist(if you even call their crap a novel in the first place.) I've read several Korean Wuxia's that made me annoyed that the Chinese people even claimed credit for introducing the genre when others easily outshine them in it.
 
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