Heroism and its defensiveness stance.

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[NotaNuffian]

You all gang up on Japanese heroes, but Batman was just as stupid before they started adding more backstory to him. Spider-Man is just as stupid as any Japanese hero. Simply because his uncle said some shit, he lets the villains wreak chaos and kill innocent citizens every time instead of nipping the problem. Before they were made more complex by authors, most if not every classical hero were like that.

You know, I always hated the blue boy scout (90s Superman) because of how upright he is, I also disliked Batsy and Spidey not because they are goody-two-shoes, but rather because they refuse to solve the problem by removing it instead of throwing the crooks back into the same shitty judicial system with no death penalty.

For the record, I love having these goody-two-shoes and will trust them 90% of my life because of their unwillingness to kill (10% to account for accidents) and their reluctance for murder because if, IF I one day have to receive their wrath, I will rather live then die... though if I end up a vegetable due to excessive punching, I might as well die.

While Peacemaker and perhaps Punisher are on the right track to execute the unchanging bad apples, they got it wrong in one part; the heroes should never be the ones to pull the trigger. Someone else should be the executor so as to leave the heroes a clean image. The second idea will be to change the prison system if not the judicial system, because these motherfuckers are the reason why villains keep popping back in like the pests.

 

[NobleTalon]

While Peacemaker and perhaps Punisher are on the right track to execute the unchanging bad apples, they got it wrong in one part; the heroes should never be the ones to pull the trigger. Someone else should be the executor so as to leave the heroes a clean image.

This is why villains are cool and heroes suck.

I love the comics and series The Boys for this part, the 'villains' are trying to do good by removing those so-called 'Heroes' who do not respect anything and feel free to do whatever they want, just cuz they are the heroes.

It is way more realistic, and if one day we really have people with superpowers popping out of nowhere, they would probably be closer to The Boys' than Marvel's heroes.

 

[SilvCrimBlac]

Speaking of Chinese names, Chinese names are awful in English. They pass by better in their native written form (characters as my professors called them), but when written in English letters, they look so damned similar, and more than half of the time, you can't tell the gender, unlike Korean and Japanese. It's one of those languages that just doesn't translate particularly well into English. So much is lost, which is why so many of the names look so similar and the gender tones are lost.

Korean suffers from this as well but to a lesser degree than Chinese. Japanese, by far, translates the best into English and they are able to show off a larger variety of syllables in their names with English than either Chinese or Korean. While I enjoy Chinese novels, I tend to have to write down names somewhere to keep up with them and remember who is who, something I only occasionally need to do with Korean and NEVER with Japanese.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

You know, I always hated the blue boy scout (90s Superman) because of how upright he is, I also disliked Batsy and Spidey not because they are goody-two-shoes, but rather because they refuse to solve the problem by removing it instead of throwing the crooks back into the same shitty judicial system with no death penalty.

For the record, I love having these goody-two-shoes and will trust them 90% of my life because of their unwillingness to kill (10% to account for accidents) and their reluctance for murder because if, IF I one day have to receive their wrath, I will rather live then die... though if I end up a vegetable due to excessive punching, I might as well die.

While Peacemaker and perhaps Punisher are on the right track to execute the unchanging bad apples, they got it wrong in one part; the heroes should never be the ones to pull the trigger. Someone else should be the executor so as to leave the heroes a clean image. The second idea will be to change the prison system if not the judicial system, because these motherfuckers are the reason why villains keep popping back in like the pests.

You hate heroes, yet you don't want an anti-hero(punisher). Is this answer connected to your first statement or not? If it does, you contradict yourself.

While Peacemaker and perhaps Punisher are on the right track to execute the unchanging bad apples, they got it wrong in one part; the heroes should never be the ones to pull the trigger.

If a hero doesn't pull the trigger, he can't do this:

like the MC betraying their betrayers first/ stabs first.

 

[NotaNuffian]

You hate heroes, yet you don't want an anti-hero(punisher). Is this answer connected to your first statement or not? If it does, you contradict yourself.

If a hero doesn't pull the trigger, he can't do this:

Yes I know it is a mess when I type the remarks out.

Like wanting good things without the bad things associate to it.

I want to have good heroes who are paragon of humanity and law abiding yet I also don't want them to sticklers to their rigid principle and ends up getting analled by predictable crap.

Like Superman knowing Luthor is a human POS, yet he still allows him to be scotfree and not rotting in an isolated island forever. Because of that, certified villains (or repeated offenders) are always there to make a mess in the society.

I know that it is a load of contradictory bullcrap, but I would like my heroes to be kind, gentle and firm as well as able to put his foot down when up againsting villains. Like when in Justice League Dark: Apokolips War, the JLA decides to just go and put down Darkseid once and for all at his hometurf. To be honest, even without Cyborg being a mole, the chances of them winning is low.

In Superman vs. The Elite, the kid who got his father killed because Supe locked the mass murderer up ends up side with Manchester Black to kill the murderer. I for one enjoys having Supe not being Sephiroth or a Justice Lord cuz the final display of madness of a god is scary. But the part where Black stated, the necessary death sentence is necessary.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Yes I know it is a mess when I type the remarks out.

Like wanting good things without the bad things associate to it.

I want to have good heroes who are paragon of humanity and law abiding yet I also don't want them to sticklers to their rigid principle and ends up getting analled by predictable crap.

Like Superman knowing Luthor is a human POS, yet he still allows him to be scotfree and not rotting in an isolated island forever. Because of that, certified villains (or repeated offenders) are always there to make a mess in the society.

I know that it is a load of contradictory bullcrap, but I would like my heroes to be kind, gentle and firm as well as able to put his foot down when up againsting villains. Like when in Justice League Dark: Apokolips War, the JLA decides to just go and put down Darkseid once and for all at his hometurf. To be honest, even without Cyborg being a mole, the chances of them winning is low.

In Superman vs. The Elite, the kid who got his father killed because Supe locked the mass murderer up ends up side with Manchester Black to kill the murderer. I for one enjoys having Supe not being Sephiroth or a Justice Lord cuz the final display of madness of a god is scary. But the part where Black stated, the necessary death sentence is necessary.

First of all, I'm not into DC or Marvel or any other comic franchise, so I can't understand your examples as I haven't read them. I only know a few things from those universes. Secondly, yes, I want this as well. For a hero to be kind and good and stuff, but at the same time be able to pull the trigger. But sadly, I can't see how this can work, nor do I think this can work.

 

[SakeVision]

I'm more annoyed about edgy/villainous main characters softening up really quickly and making all kinda excuses and justifications that seem like author trying to justify his own power fantasy.

"You see, my self insert this guy is edgy, but he's actually good at heart so let me him rip and tear already ok, but he cares about his nakama and shiawase ok?"