Does SH have rating trolls like RR?

Deeprotsorcerer

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I probably upset a few people in my short time here, but I've never had a reactionary 1 star rating before, and I haven't done that to others. Why waste the effort, yeah?

I'm looking at your fics now, were the ratings scrubbed?
 

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Of course there are, there are lots of them.


Ah, sweet child, the recent updates allow mods and bots to quickly remove them if they notice, but beforr this, before your time, there was just so much chaos. Authors would had to PM Tony to remove them.
yo, don't act like you're a grandpa. doesn't fit you at all... >.>

Just got bombarded with .5 star/1 star ratings on one of my stories for having a differing opinion on the forums.
Is SH known for doing the same thing?
and for this, let's say there might be a troll or two every few weeks/months, but usually, if you think it was a troll rating and stuff, you could just ask tony to check if it looked suspicious.

however, because of the recently added feature "you need to add this story to a reading list to give it a rating", the trolls have quieted down.

In the end, it doesn't matter too much. Just keep writing.

and think about it like this:

if someone gave you a random 5 stars, you wouldn't complain, so if you got a random 1 star, then there should be no use in complaining, either.
 

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RR is more critical and has higher standards. The writing is also by far, on average, much better. People here can't handle the stricter standards and therefore tend to fall back on the classic "but trollz tho" and I've gotten to where I ignore these people. This thread alone is amusing. @Discount_Blade tends to have some amusing opinions about people who shout troll at the drop of a hat. Apparently, according to him, this forum used to be plagued with people making threads to cry about trolls the very second they got a 1-star.

Also, seeing as people drop 5's on stories that I very much doubt they deserved, I think people have very little right to lose their marbles over a 1 star. I mean...so much of the literature on this site is ranked at 4.5 and higher, and it's just...not deserving of that high rank. I mean stuff with obvious misspellings and grammar flaws in just the synopsis still have a 4.7!!! I mean seriously!!? Let's not even talk about the actual story content.....

Which is why, I like SH, but I like RR just as much because when you get a good rating on RR, you probably actually earned it and not because your popular and socialize frequently in the forums, which is something so many other writing sites fall victim too.

But still, SH is much more forgiving and kinder in its ratings. So if you don't want harsh criticism, or at least not as much of it, than here is your best bet.
Oh gods, not another one of these stupid ass threads. I'll keep it short. If you don't whine about a random 5-star, shut up about a random 1 star because you most likely didn't deserve that 5 anymore than you don't think you did that 1. Okay? Okay.
To clarify, this thread is a little over a week old and got necro'd. You also misread it. The OP got in an argument on another forum and the forum user they argued with there proceeded to bot attack their stories. It's not a complaint about generic trolls, it's a question about the users of this forum.
 

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To clarify, this thread is a little over a week old and got necro'd. You also misread it. The OP got in an argument on another forum and the forum user they argued with there proceeded to bot attack their stories. It's not a complaint about generic trolls, it's a question about the users of this forum.
I was wrong then.
 

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Too bad that OP is also a whiny baby in the RR forums. And they also didn't provide any proof of it happening and most people just straight believed them for no reason other than assuming that to be the case all the time.
 

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Too bad that OP is also a whiny baby in the RR forums. And they also didn't provide any proof of it happening and most people just straight believed them for no reason other than assuming that to be the case all the time.
I appreciate you taking the time to reply to this dead thread.
And the mods confirmed that the rating was unwarranted and removed it.
 

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Too bad that OP is also a whiny baby in the RR forums. And they also didn't provide any proof of it happening and most people just straight believed them for no reason other than assuming that to be the case all the time.
Kind of amazed at how active RR's forums has gotten. Can still remember when they were dead as hell. Supposedly, a lot of the new traffic flow is from Wattpad. But I really hope thats a lie. The only thing worse than Wattpad'ers is authors migrating from WN, but the difference is razor thin.

It's like living in Texas, one of the better states currently, and then suddenly getting an influx of Californians.
 

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Kind of amazed at how active RR's forums has gotten. Can still remember when they were dead as hell. Supposedly, a lot of the new traffic flow is from Wattpad. But I really hope thats a lie. The only thing worse than Wattpad'ers is authors migrating from WN, but the difference is razor thin.

It's like living in Texas, one of the better states currently, and then suddenly getting an influx of Californians.
Ai-chan thinks maybe because people who don't want to divorce in California moved to Texas so that they can get a divorce in Texas? Ai-chan heard if you divorce in California, half of the husband's wealth is given to the wife. Ai-chan doesn't know if this is true, but people kept saying it.
 

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Well, if there's one thing I don't care for about seeing your story on RR would be calling yourself the #1 classic on scribblehub based on that specific tag ranking. It's about as dumb as that one random forum thread about some guy selling themselves as the first game based on a scribblehub story.

And I'm not going to say which one is "better" between SH and RR. If only because I don't really use the latter at all for writing or reading. I only know it because it's the place people here hate on because it's "meaner" than here.
We all know and appreciate you're doing your best to change that
 

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Kind of amazed at how active RR's forums has gotten. Can still remember when they were dead as hell. Supposedly, a lot of the new traffic flow is from Wattpad. But I really hope thats a lie. The only thing worse than Wattpad'ers is authors migrating from WN, but the difference is razor thin.

It's like living in Texas, one of the better states currently, and then suddenly getting an influx of Californians.
That's kind of funny since I came here from Wattpad and WN. I guess that's not a fair thing to say I migrated though since I still publish there anyway. I pretty much stopped using the WN forums because there's just a bunch of people complaining about getting bad reviews. It's like here, but even worse if you can believe that.
 

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Ai-chan thinks maybe because people who don't want to divorce in California moved to Texas so that they can get a divorce in Texas? Ai-chan heard if you divorce in California, half of the husband's wealth is given to the wife. Ai-chan doesn't know if this is true, but people kept saying it.
That's the case anywhere in the U.S., except nowadays a woman can take more than half if she has children by the man too. Quite a few high-profile men who had billions in net worth, divorced recently, and guess what? Their wives, who were in no way part of the process of the man earning his wealth, still got half or nearly half just because......because. I don't know how it works but women have all the advantages in western marriages and no accountability or responsibility for when things go bad. Women cheat? She can divorce and ruin a man's future financial prospects because "muh emotional abuse" or some random bullshit excuse and of course, putting on a waterworks show in the courtroom.

The judge will eat it up. In short, there are no advantages to men marrying in the west. Marriage as of now, is just pageantry for a woman. It's a ceremony of the man signing over his rights to his balls to the woman who now gets to hold the man's balls in her claws and decide if she wants to squeeze later on or not, and the divorce courts will back her decisions almost always. Western culture is extremely slanted in favor of the woman, but of course feminists still find reasons to bitch cuz "muh patriarchy" you know? And lol at criminal law. Whatever crime a man does, if a woman does the same thing, guaranteed to get only a fraction of the same sentencing. Western feminists are imbeciles. They are fighting a battle they've already won, but are still seeing shadow enemies in the dark corners of every masculine hallway.
there's just a bunch of people complaining about getting bad reviews. It's like here, but even worse if you can believe that.
That seems so impossible and yet sadly possible at the same time.
 
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There are most certainly ratings trolls and troll reviewers here on SH, but in my experience that's because the stuff I write is romantic drama and certainly has NTR vibes... you'd be surprised how many people can't handle strong emotional content and cry "beta mc!" "cuck!" "NTR!!!" even when there isn't any actual relevant content that they can prove.
As such I've received countless 1* ratings and reviews. So I mean, yes, they exist. However if you are going to write a generic litrpg with minimal 1-dimensional romance, you're golden.
 

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There are most certainly ratings trolls and troll reviewers here on SH, but in my experience that's because the stuff I write is romantic drama and certainly has NTR vibes... you'd be surprised how many people can't handle strong emotional content and cry "beta mc!" "cuck!" "NTR!!!" even when there isn't any actual relevant content that they can prove.
As such I've received countless 1* ratings and reviews. So I mean, yes, they exist. However if you are going to write a generic litrpg with minimal 1-dimensional romance, you're golden.
People have really watered down what "troll" in the internet context actually means. It's an entirely different argument on what should or should not (According this forum's illustrious opinions) constitute part of what people want to critique in their ratings/reviews.
 

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People have really watered down what "troll" in the internet context actually means
I still get flashbacks of when Naosu was still on RR when I read the word troll. I can remember spending nearly an hour typing up a post of suggestions to him in a private message on how he could help alleviate some of the constant problems countless reviewers and commenters were complaining about on his story. He would just insist it was trolling, but I noticed the same issues as these "trolls", and figured I'd explain it to him in detail, even posting snippets of his story to give examples.

The bastard didn't even read it. Dismissed it as "trolling", then continued calling every review a troll review if it was even mildly negative, complaining to the forums about "troll ratings". Eventually, he just started deleting entire comment threads of genuine criticism, discussions, and attempts at offering solutions, labeling it as "troll posts" because it wasn't stroking whatever ego he wanted stroked. No one was insulting him. IT was people who actually liked his story, offering their help. Finally he left RR by deleting his account and came here. His first few reviews were literal copies of the same kinds of criticism he received on RR, from people that weren't on RR, but instead SH regulars. He got those reviews deleted because they were "trolling".

I think Tony often deletes stuff just so people will shut up. I took a look at Naosu's story again months later and it's just the exact same fiasco it was on RR, so he learned nothing and gained nothing. He still thinks the "big bad trolls" chased him out of RR. Now however, with the average SH readerbase having standards so far below RR, fewer people point out things to him anymore that contradicts his views. So, I daresay he found his target audience here. Maybe he's improved it some now, but I won't be finding out.
 
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I'm new and still observing this community on SH.
It would be totally bad to have rating trolls who attempt to take down another author.
I know the storytelling realm is competitive. But we shall respect others' artistic expression too.
I was silenced by a community for whistleblowing.
It's a well established and renown community but shit sometimes happened.
Shall I say, I was criminalised for being too kyoot? LOL.
 
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