So Psychic Powers are b*llsh*t

[2021]

You know magic, yes that is far more plausible. Since to make a spell someone is converting mana to something else. While Psychic Powers just appear, where is that energy coming from. Only like mind reading and telepathy, and a few others can work.


How does telekinesis even work, how does one’s will move stuff, law of conservation of energy.


-Also note if you respond it magic, ima go Ooga-booga mode because this ain’t magic, it’s Psychic Powers

 

[BigHoodieBoy]

Psychic powers are mostly in-born so they don’t require an outside source, instead using the users mental power, where magic is learned and requires a outside source so you can’t really compare the two.

 

[NotaNuffian]

You know magic, yes that is far more plausible. Since to make a spell someone is converting mana to something else. While Psychic Powers just appear, where is that energy coming from. Only like mind reading and telepathy, and a few others can work.


How does telekinesis even work, how does one’s will move stuff, law of conservation of energy.


-Also note if you respond it magic, ima go Ooga-booga mode because this ain’t magic, it’s Psychic Powers

Well, it BS with the power of your mind.

You know when you are tired mentally after thinking (stressing) too much? It feels like you still have energy for a run but in your mind, you just want to sleep.

Exhaustion can be split into physical and mental, depending on what work you do.

That is why I always argue about MP not being Mana Point but Mental Point, as magic users use their psychic ability to to draw in mana and use them for magic.

Then shit gets tougher when people split magic user into mana user and psychic user, when both of them still use their mental strength to do their respective shits.

 

[2021]

Well, it BS with the power of your mind.

this is what I mean

 

[NotaNuffian]

this is what I mean

I try to explain this by having ESPers from drawing energy from the warp (fuck I can hear GW banging on my door), but instead, I try to explain further.

You know that there is a phrase in taoism "the body is just a small part of the universe while the universe is the big part of the body"? Different from mana users from using their mental strength to channel mana (or cultivators with ki/ qi/ chi), ESPers use their mental strength to directly interfere with their surrounding.

So in a case where a standard mana user who use 1 unit of their mental strength to cause a change the flux of mana, that leads to a start of chain reaction of their surrounding, ESPers use more than 1 unit, maybe 10 times of their mental strength to start the chain reaction. The difference is like you using a trolley to push a box versus you pushing the box directly.

 

[DarkMask]

The reason is either Chinese cultivation BS about mind energy(or soul sense or whatever you know nascent soul thingy) or some kind of thing that happens when a human brain uses more than 10%? Of its power (I don't remember what number...ever watched Lucy?)

 

[rain-090]

Lucy?

 

[KiraMinoru]

You know magic, yes that is far more plausible. Since to make a spell someone is converting mana to something else. While Psychic Powers just appear, where is that energy coming from. Only like mind reading and telepathy, and a few others can work.


How does telekinesis even work, how does one’s will move stuff, law of conservation of energy.


-Also note if you respond it magic, ima go Ooga-booga mode because this ain’t magic, it’s Psychic Powers

This will be some bullshit explanation for equally bullshit magic. You could imagine telekinesis being someone’s brain converting stuff like sugars or lipids into energy to manipulate the Higgs field, what gives mass to particles.

As for mind reading and telepathy, you could think of it as quantum entanglement of particles. A change in the state of one particle results in a change in the state of another even when they are completely separated and isolated from one another.

 

[DarkMask]

Lucy?

It's a movie. I don't remember the plot well but it had something to do with brain-related stuff.

 

[TheTrinary]

I actually address this in the series I'm writing. It's elemental magic (kinda) and they're just like, "it's telekenisis, it doesn't come from anywhere." But it does. It doessssssss.

Haven't reached that point yet.

 

[HappyVainGlory]

You know magic, yes that is far more plausible. Since to make a spell someone is converting mana to something else. While Psychic Powers just appear, where is that energy coming from. Only like mind reading and telepathy, and a few others can work.


How does telekinesis even work, how does one’s will move stuff, law of conservation of energy.


-Also note if you respond it magic, ima go Ooga-booga mode because this ain’t magic, it’s Psychic Powers

Will is expressed through one's thoughts. Thoughts exist in brainwaves.

Let's assume that psychics possess absolute control over the amplitude and frequency of their brainwaves and can direct it externally from their body, whether through some genetic mutation or device.

If you treat brainwaves as a fundamental energy wave, you would be able to harmonize with other energy waves to amplify them as needed or disrupt them by adjusting frequency and wavelengths. This would allow for kinetic energy to be transmitted by just doing a cascading effect from sending out brainwaves to other ambient energy waves and adjusting to suit.

Edit: An alternative explanation could be wave-particle resonance, but that gets complicated and I don't feel like brushing up the actual physics to make it work again.

 

[Vnator]

Yes. Anyone else get annoyed when the final villain of a movie or game needs to be a superpowered threat so writers almost always default to giving them psychic powers/psionics? It really feels cheap and makes me completely sympathize with the guy from the Wizard Destroys all Psions

 

[Kilolo]

back in the day a carriage that can move without being pulled by a horse sounds supernatural.
many years later, people start taking it for granted.

and then there's stuff like remote control, where you can turn something on and off using a switch from a considerable distance without any cable attached.

and look where we're at now? you might be at the other part of the world and you can read what i'm typing in just a few seconds.

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some things are BS, yes i admit that.
but just because i don't understand how it works, i wouldn't quickly judge things to be BS.

 

[Jemini]

If your chief complaint is conservation of energy and where the energy comes from, there are all kinds of possible explanations that can be used.

1. The person's brain expends as many calories as an arm would lifting the object. (Maybe more due to lack of physical leverage, or less due to not needing to also exert the energy to move your own body. Depends on the world building.)

2. Tapping into some kind of invisible field similar in nature to the earth's electro-magnetic field, and that's what you are controlling with your psychokinesis.

3. Elfen Leid. (Just watch it, you will know what I'm talking about.)

 

[2021]

The reason is either Chinese cultivation BS about mind energy(or soul sense or whatever you know nascent soul thingy) or some kind of thing that happens when a human brain uses more than 10%? Of its power (I don't remember what number...ever watched Lucy?)

100% brain power with blue chalk. Don’t know how her mind made her into robot but hey

If your chief complaint is conservation of energy and where the energy comes from, there are all kinds of possible explanations that can be used.

1. The person's brain expends as many calories as an arm would lifting the object. (Maybe more due to lack of physical leverage, or less due to not needing to also exert the energy to move your own body. Depends on the world building.)

2. Tapping into some kind of invisible field similar in nature to the earth's electro-magnetic field, and that's what you are controlling with your psychokinesis.

3. Elfen Leid. (Just watch it, you will know what I'm talking about.)

Nope not my main chief. I just hate how the powers work.

 

[DarkMask]

100% brain power with blue chalk. Don’t know how her mind made her into robot but hey

Huh? As far as I know, she didn't become a robot rather became one with nature itself. She just communicated with technology.

Well, who cares about that? No matter what kind of power it is its all fictional so you can very well call it BS with no meaning behind it.

 

[Reborn_Cat]

As far as I can see the best way to describe the two is like so
Magic - Intelligence Based phenomena where you use spells and runes to draw out the power of mana
Psychic - Will based phenomena where you exert your will upon the world itself in order to cause various events

 

[Daitengu]

The way it's written in most books psychic power is usually stamina based. People want to call it mental stamina, but often people who over use it are physically tired. Like they ran full tilt till they pass out.

The only exception is when it's soul powered, then they can just die from overuse even while their body is fine.

 

[2021]

As far as I can see the best way to describe the two is like so
Magic - Intelligence Based phenomena where you use spells and runes to draw out the power of mana
Psychic - Will based phenomena where you exert your will upon the world itself in order to cause various events

Pretty much, not exactly, but pretty much. Just magic is cooler and better. Well if it’s written well, if not then both suck

 

[greyblob]

you can easily bullshit mindreading with some genetic mutations. i think it can be done with telekinesis too but i'd have to do some research