Willing to Ghostwrite myself!

Motsu

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You want to make money as a writer to drink alcohol and spend your whole day with a woman, right?

You’ve told everyone on your Twitter (including your weird aunt) that you’re available to write but can't seem to handle technology. You’ve been writing guest post after guest post to showcase your talent and get your name out there. Maybe you’ve even landed a few freelance writing jobs already. (Good for you! Or, I am jealous!)

But then a potential client emails you with the question, “Do you offer ghostwriting services?”

And you’re stumped.

Maybe you’ve heard of ghostwriting. Maybe you have some idea what a ghostwriter is. Or maybe you wonder if it involves ouija boards in some way.

You don’t want to look like an idiot by emailing back to say, “Err… what do you mean?”

That sounds like a good way to send your potential client running for the hills.

But don’t worry — I’m about to tell you everything you need to know about ghostwriting, starting with…

What is a Ghostwriter?

Ghostwriters are writers for hire who are paid but receive none of the credit for the work produced.

There are generally two parties involve in this professional relationship:

  • The “author,” who hires the freelance writer to produce content for an agreed-upon fee, takes the credit for all the original work produced.
  • The “ghost,” the freelance writer who is generally paid in advance of completing the job, gets the money as a “work for hire” job and assumes none of the credit for their ghostwriting work.
As you've gathered, 'A ghostwriter is not credited as an author (notice the lack of “author” in the title)—but more than that, she or he is a “ghost” as far as credit goes. Essentially, a ghostwriter does not normally receive any credit for your book because when you hire a ghostwriter, the published book is yours alone.'

You don't get any credit, your name won't appear anywhere, and you'll never get famous. So why do many writers ghostwrite? And why do they love it? Well, because there are major benefits.

Ghostwriting is a common practice, though it isn’t often publicized. When someone wants to create a new copy for a website, a ghostwriter may be hired to rewrite the existing copy. There are many similar jobs such as writing ad or business copy or supplying new or rewritten material for personal or professional use. The ghost is hired primarily as a professional freelance writer, in order to produce high-quality writing copy that reads professionally.

Ghosts often work for very large amounts of money, although with recent competition from other countries like India and China, and with bidding service agencies looking for the highest bidder on ghostwriting projects, this is not always the case. But in many cases, a ghostwriter will charge a fee of $10,000 to $25,000 to produce exceptional quality, sterling book writing over three to six months. You also don't need a writing degree to work, and while working, you are able to communicate with authors and improve your own writing for the better good.

As a ghostwriter, you’ll normally work quite closely with your client. You may be privy to their rough notes or mind maps, or you might interview them on the phone or in person. Chances are, you’re also focusing your ghostwriting on a particular area of expertise (especially if you’re writing for a blog). This means you’ve got a brilliant opportunity to get to know and be affiliated with someone well-established in your field.

However you slice it, the ghostwriting business can be quite lucrative. In order to become a well-paid ghost, you should have plenty of experience as a freelance writer. This could be demonstrated by having books published under your own name or years of experience writing websites and other types of copy for businesses.

Even when the economy suffers, there is always room in the writing profession for another freelance writer. Once you know how to handle its ins and outs, and how to deal with clients professionally, ghostwriting can be very lucrative.

What are your thoughts on Ghostwriting per se? Would you want to become one? Do you love Ghostwriting or not? Tell me more below!

In a (not) unconditionally dark room, where tranquility seems to lay, a single light shone on a single computer. My sister—who I don’t want to enter my room—has emerged inside out-of-nowhere and asked me one thing, “Ghostwriting?” completely destroying the tranquility.

“Oi, stop reading my monitor and go to sleep!”

“Booo… Isn’t it about time for a little sister’s consultation? I bet I can help you a lot!” She giggles—increasing my doubt of her usefulness.

“Ah, hmm… I get it!”—I put my thumb on my forehead—“You want to talk about how to stop wetting your be—”

“I don’t do that anymore!”—she said—“Anyway… didn’t you ghostwrite a long time ago? Back when you finished school—you were working so hard.”

“I still do all of that though.” I sullenly said.

“Really?”—she opened her mouth, amazed—“Does that mean you’re pretty good at writing and gain a lot of money? Oh, maybe I can be a ghostwriter too?”

“None of your business.”—I stopped writing—“Ghostwriting isn’t an easy task. In my experience, if you don’t have enough writing experience, you won’t last long in the industry of ghostwriting.”

“You just broke a young maiden’s dream.”—she embraced me behind my back—“I don’t really know what you feel when something is difficult but I can tell for sure how much of an industrious person you are.”

“Well, thanks.”

“Keep working.”—she yawned—“I am going to sleep!”

And I continued my writing.
 
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Have heard of this before. Also have heard of amanuensis too.

Personally no, to becoming a ghostwriter. Would rather write and get that credit for hard work. Ofc, it will be different if strapped for cash.
 

Horizon42

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You want to make money as a writer to drink alcohol and spend your whole day with a woman, right?

You’ve told everyone on your Twitter (including your weird aunt) that you’re available to write but can't seem to handle technology. You’ve been writing guest post after guest post to showcase your talent and get your name out there. Maybe you’ve even landed a few freelance writing jobs already. (Good for you! Or, I am jealous!)

But then a potential client emails you with the question, “Do you offer ghostwriting services?”

And you’re stumped.

Maybe you’ve heard of ghostwriting. Maybe you have some idea what a ghostwriter is. Or maybe you wonder if it involves ouija boards in some way.

You don’t want to look like an idiot by emailing back to say, “Err… what do you mean?”

That sounds like a good way to send your potential client running for the hills.

But don’t worry — I’m about to tell you everything you need to know about ghostwriting, starting with…

What is a Ghostwriter?

Ghostwriters are writers for hire who are paid but receive none of the credit for the work produced.

There are generally two parties involve in this professional relationship:

  • The “author,” who hires the freelance writer to produce content for an agreed-upon fee, takes the credit for all the original work produced.
  • The “ghost,” the freelance writer who is generally paid in advance of completing the job, gets the money as a “work for hire” job and assumes none of the credit for their ghostwriting work.
As you've gathered, 'A ghostwriter is not credited as an author (notice the lack of “author” in the title)—but more than that, she or he is a “ghost” as far as credit goes. Essentially, a ghostwriter does not normally receive any credit for your book because when you hire a ghostwriter, the published book is yours alone.'

You don't get any credit, your name won't appear anywhere, and you'll never get famous. So why do many writers ghostwrite? And why do they love it? Well, because there are major benefits.

Ghostwriting is a common practice, though it isn’t often publicized. When someone wants to create a new copy for a website, a ghostwriter may be hired to rewrite the existing copy. There are many similar jobs such as writing ad or business copy or supplying new or rewritten material for personal or professional use. The ghost is hired primarily as a professional freelance writer, in order to produce high-quality writing copy that reads professionally.

Ghosts often work for very large amounts of money, although with recent competition from other countries like India and China, and with bidding service agencies looking for the highest bidder on ghostwriting projects, this is not always the case. But in many cases, a ghostwriter will charge a fee of $10,000 to $25,000 to produce exceptional quality, sterling book writing over three to six months. You also don't need a writing degree to work, and while working, you are able to communicate with authors and improve your own writing for the better good.

As a ghostwriter, you’ll normally work quite closely with your client. You may be privy to their rough notes or mind maps, or you might interview them on the phone or in person. Chances are, you’re also focusing your ghostwriting on a particular area of expertise (especially if you’re writing for a blog). This means you’ve got a brilliant opportunity to get to know and be affiliated with someone well-established in your field.

However you slice it, the ghostwriting business can be quite lucrative. In order to become a well-paid ghost, you should have plenty of experience as a freelance writer. This could be demonstrated by having books published under your own name or years of experience writing websites and other types of copy for businesses.

Even when the economy suffers, there is always room in the writing profession for another freelance writer. Once you know how to handle its ins and outs, and how to deal with clients professionally, ghostwriting can be very lucrative.

What are your thoughts on Ghostwriting per se? Would you want to become one? Do you love Ghostwriting or not? Tell me more below!

In a (not) unconditionally dark room, where tranquility seems to lay, a single light shone on a single computer. My sister—who I don’t want to enter my room—has emerged inside out-of-nowhere and asked me one thing, “Ghostwriting?” completely destroying the tranquility.

“Oi, stop reading my monitor and go to sleep!”

“Booo… Isn’t it about time for a little sister’s consultation? I bet I can help you a lot!” She giggles—increasing my doubt of her usefulness.

“Ah, hmm… I get it!”—I put my thumb on my forehead—“You want to talk about how to stop wetting your be—”

“I don’t do that anymore!”—she said—“Anyway… didn’t you ghostwrite a long time ago? Back when you finished school—you were working so hard.”

“I still do all of that though.” I sullenly said.

“Really?”—she opened her mouth, amazed—“Does that mean you’re pretty good at writing and gain a lot of money? Oh, maybe I can be a ghostwriter too?”

“None of your business.”—I stopped writing—“Ghostwriting isn’t an easy task. In my experience, if you don’t have enough writing experience, you won’t last long in the industry of ghostwriting.”

“You just broke a young maiden’s dream.”—she embraced me behind my back—“I don’t really know what you feel when something is difficult but I can tell for sure how much of an industrious person you are.”

“Well, thanks.”

“Keep working.”—she yawned—“I am going to sleep!”

And I continued my writing.
I've never heard of that, but if you're willing to commit to the editing and outlining process, it would be better to just make a published book. Unless you really, really need the cash.
 

Ai-chan

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You want to make money as a writer to drink alcohol and spend your whole day with a woman, right?

You’ve told everyone on your Twitter (including your weird aunt) that you’re available to write but can't seem to handle technology. You’ve been writing guest post after guest post to showcase your talent and get your name out there. Maybe you’ve even landed a few freelance writing jobs already. (Good for you! Or, I am jealous!)

But then a potential client emails you with the question, “Do you offer ghostwriting services?”

And you’re stumped.

Maybe you’ve heard of ghostwriting. Maybe you have some idea what a ghostwriter is. Or maybe you wonder if it involves ouija boards in some way.

You don’t want to look like an idiot by emailing back to say, “Err… what do you mean?”

That sounds like a good way to send your potential client running for the hills.

But don’t worry — I’m about to tell you everything you need to know about ghostwriting, starting with…

What is a Ghostwriter?

Ghostwriters are writers for hire who are paid but receive none of the credit for the work produced.

There are generally two parties involve in this professional relationship:

  • The “author,” who hires the freelance writer to produce content for an agreed-upon fee, takes the credit for all the original work produced.
  • The “ghost,” the freelance writer who is generally paid in advance of completing the job, gets the money as a “work for hire” job and assumes none of the credit for their ghostwriting work.
As you've gathered, 'A ghostwriter is not credited as an author (notice the lack of “author” in the title)—but more than that, she or he is a “ghost” as far as credit goes. Essentially, a ghostwriter does not normally receive any credit for your book because when you hire a ghostwriter, the published book is yours alone.'

You don't get any credit, your name won't appear anywhere, and you'll never get famous. So why do many writers ghostwrite? And why do they love it? Well, because there are major benefits.

Ghostwriting is a common practice, though it isn’t often publicized. When someone wants to create a new copy for a website, a ghostwriter may be hired to rewrite the existing copy. There are many similar jobs such as writing ad or business copy or supplying new or rewritten material for personal or professional use. The ghost is hired primarily as a professional freelance writer, in order to produce high-quality writing copy that reads professionally.

Ghosts often work for very large amounts of money, although with recent competition from other countries like India and China, and with bidding service agencies looking for the highest bidder on ghostwriting projects, this is not always the case. But in many cases, a ghostwriter will charge a fee of $10,000 to $25,000 to produce exceptional quality, sterling book writing over three to six months. You also don't need a writing degree to work, and while working, you are able to communicate with authors and improve your own writing for the better good.

As a ghostwriter, you’ll normally work quite closely with your client. You may be privy to their rough notes or mind maps, or you might interview them on the phone or in person. Chances are, you’re also focusing your ghostwriting on a particular area of expertise (especially if you’re writing for a blog). This means you’ve got a brilliant opportunity to get to know and be affiliated with someone well-established in your field.

However you slice it, the ghostwriting business can be quite lucrative. In order to become a well-paid ghost, you should have plenty of experience as a freelance writer. This could be demonstrated by having books published under your own name or years of experience writing websites and other types of copy for businesses.

Even when the economy suffers, there is always room in the writing profession for another freelance writer. Once you know how to handle its ins and outs, and how to deal with clients professionally, ghostwriting can be very lucrative.

What are your thoughts on Ghostwriting per se? Would you want to become one? Do you love Ghostwriting or not? Tell me more below!

In a (not) unconditionally dark room, where tranquility seems to lay, a single light shone on a single computer. My sister—who I don’t want to enter my room—has emerged inside out-of-nowhere and asked me one thing, “Ghostwriting?” completely destroying the tranquility.

“Oi, stop reading my monitor and go to sleep!”

“Booo… Isn’t it about time for a little sister’s consultation? I bet I can help you a lot!” She giggles—increasing my doubt of her usefulness.

“Ah, hmm… I get it!”—I put my thumb on my forehead—“You want to talk about how to stop wetting your be—”

“I don’t do that anymore!”—she said—“Anyway… didn’t you ghostwrite a long time ago? Back when you finished school—you were working so hard.”

“I still do all of that though.” I sullenly said.

“Really?”—she opened her mouth, amazed—“Does that mean you’re pretty good at writing and gain a lot of money? Oh, maybe I can be a ghostwriter too?”

“None of your business.”—I stopped writing—“Ghostwriting isn’t an easy task. In my experience, if you don’t have enough writing experience, you won’t last long in the industry of ghostwriting.”

“You just broke a young maiden’s dream.”—she embraced me behind my back—“I don’t really know what you feel when something is difficult but I can tell for sure how much of an industrious person you are.”

“Well, thanks.”

“Keep working.”—she yawned—“I am going to sleep!”

And I continued my writing.
If the money is good, Ai-chan doesn't mind.

The problem is, unless the client is some kind of celebrity, they're likely cheapskates who'd try to talk down your price until it's not worth the time. Customers have this habit of misunderstanding that writing is hard work. Even harder if you're writing for someone else where your muse isn't really yours. It's hard work and you should charge more than if it's your own story.

Unfortunately, people don't want to pay the price you ask. Ai-chan wasn't even being unreasonable. USD3000 for a 40k word sci-fi novel, and bastard wouldn't even pay that much. Even wanted to push it down to USD1000 with free full-service editing. What the fuck, man?!!!
 

BenJepheneT

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In terms of money, that'll be great. But in terms of an actual career, no, I'm not taking it. It's a gigantic fucking risk to burning out completely on a hobby. Ever done something so much on so many occasions that just the act of doing it makes you feel sick? Like being fed up or straight-up nauseous towards the idea itself?

I know that day will come, where I'll be stuck in a rut so bad that I might never recover. However, if that day ever arrives, I'd rather it be done by my own volition than in pursuit of another paycheck. Maybe I'll do it if the money gets tight, but as of now, that shit's reserved behind the "break me during emergencies" glass.

I'd rather enjoy what I'm doing than to simply benefit off it.
 

Agentt

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Sounds like great idea for a beginner. Like, yeah, you don't get any publicity but experience alone should give a booster when you dubut. Starting ghostwriting at a young age for short story just as an internship kinda thing would be great. But if you are already an functioning adult...no.
 
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