What is the hype in guns?

[Ilikewaterkusa]

Americans seem to worship guns. I don’t get why they worship guns. Why do Americans worship guns?

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

They are very empowering.
Also fun to shoot.

 

[Merrikk]

As much as I hate to say it, the second amendment is actually awesome, as it still is a form of accountability towards the government and to a certain extent the military. As, well... you know... a citizen that can fight against the government on equal power, is a smart and safe citizen.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

I have several guns which I'm pretty good at shooting. I just find them fun to shoot and they are great for hunting when I need extra food in my fridge. Personally, I don't see any reason to use guns for violence against other people but I do find guns to be a great way to prevent the government from holding too much power over its people. The 2nd amendment, like @Nilonyan said, is really good and makes a lot of sense for the people to maintain their rights. Plus, defending myself at a distance is nice.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Americans don’t worship guns. If we did the politicians who are destroying our large cities would never be in office.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

Americans don’t worship guns. If we did the politicians who are destroying our large cities would never be in office.

Agreed.

 

[georgelee5786]

Because pew pew bang bang

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

Americans don’t worship guns. If we did the politicians who are destroying our large cities would never be in office.

In theory yeah, but gun rights are basically bread and circuses for the American people, because so long as he has his right to have a gun, he won’t care. Even if his kids are been prostitutes by pedophiles, and that every one in his family is mentally ill and addicted to porn, he doesn’t care as he has guns and his liberties! His first amendment! Second amendment!

Also, I don’t think you can really attribute the collapse of large cities exclusively to politicians. I’d say their collapse is more so because of the media and other institutions, rather than the political class. Also, the issue isn’t exclusive to big cities. A lot of issues are in big cities, but small towns and suburbs are getting absolute raped

 

[Representing_Tromba]

In theory yeah, but gun rights are basically bread and circuses for the American people, because so long as he has his right to have a gun, he won’t care. Even if his kids are been prostitutes by pedophiles, and that every one in his family is mentally ill and addicted to porn, he doesn’t care as he has guns and his liberties! His first amendment! Second amendment!

I would disagree as it has no factual or logical basis but that's entirely up to you to believe.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

I would disagree as it has no factual or logical basis but that's entirely up to you to believe.

23:30

TLDR: The second amendment and gun control creates an illusion of freedom, which corporate globalist elites to better control and dictate the lives of Americans as they believe they are free.

 

[Gryphon]

To the people in the comments that think that you having a gun makes you equal to a military soldier, much less the government as a whole, I don't know what to say except you overestimate yourself way too much.

As much as I hate to say it, the second amendment is actually awesome, as it still is a form of accountability towards the government and to a certain extent the military. As, well... you know... a citizen that can fight against the government on equal power, is a smart and safe citizen.

The government has bombs. You can't legally buy crap like that. Then there's bulletproof armor. Yeah, its legal to buy, but crazy expensive for the good stuff. A gun ain't going to put you on even fighting grounds with a single soldier, much less the government.

As for my actual thoughts, I think we do rely way too much on guns for no reason. Yeah, there's a reason for the second amendment, and I support it, but there needs to be way WAY more restrictions. I can legally go buy a gun right now with little to no issues, and who knows what I'd do with it. The people I'm buying it from don't know, and they wouldn't care. As far as they know, I could be a crazy psychopath, and they'd still sell it to me anyway.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

To the people in the comments that think that you having a gun makes you equal to a military soldier, much less the government as a whole, I don't know what to say except you overestimate yourself way too much.


The government has bombs. You can't legally buy crap like that. Then there's bulletproof armor. Yeah, its legal to buy, but crazy expensive for the good stuff. A gun ain't going to put you on even fighting grounds with a single soldier, much less the government.

As for my actual thoughts, I think we do rely way too much on guns for no reason. Yeah, there's a reason for the second amendment, and I support it, but there needs to be way WAY more restrictions. I can legally go buy a gun right now with little to no issues, and who knows what I'd do with it. The people I'm buying it from don't know, and they wouldn't care. As far as they know, I could be a crazy psychopath, and they'd still sell it to me anyway.

You've obviously never actually tried to buy a gun.
And if you're argument with the govt is that they have more expensive toys, you're not using your imagination enough, nor are you learning from any guerrilla conflict that has bogged down conventional militaries for decades. Also a govt bombing its own people is pretty self defeating.

 

[NotaNuffian]

... My brain goes a bit sideways as I feel like guns is synonym to xianxia cultivation at this point. The bigger and more guns a person has, the more "powerful" he becomes.

And who has the most power? The government of course.

 

[georgelee5786]

Because pew pew bang bang

Actual answer, it helps stop criminals. If a violent criminal breaks into your home and you do not have a pistol or rifle, all you can do is call the police, hide, and pray the criminal doesnt find you. But life is rarely so kind. The best option in such a situation is to protect yourself. The police might not arrive in time to save you. But if you have a pistol or rifle, you can protect yourself.

Guns are the best way to protect yourself and your family. They can even enable a pregnant woman to stop armed assailants(https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...0QFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw23RMHNmlYlsEfowzkFvPra). People do not worship guns, but they respect them because a pistol is the best way to defend yourself.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

To the people in the comments that think that you having a gun makes you equal to a military soldier, much less the government as a whole, I don't know what to say except you overestimate yourself way too much.


The government has bombs. You can't legally buy crap like that. Then there's bulletproof armor. Yeah, its legal to buy, but crazy expensive for the good stuff. A gun ain't going to put you on even fighting grounds with a single soldier, much less the government.

As for my actual thoughts, I think we do rely way too much on guns for no reason. Yeah, there's a reason for the second amendment, and I support it, but there needs to be way WAY more restrictions. I can legally go buy a gun right now with little to no issues, and who knows what I'd do with it. The people I'm buying it from don't know, and they wouldn't care. As far as they know, I could be a crazy psychopath, and they'd still sell it to me anyway.

I really don’t want to get into politics here, but it isn’t easy to buy a gun legally in America. I had a 10 day waiting period to buy the first one.

granted some states are more lax than others.

honestly.

2nd amendment basically means we have the right to own what the government owns, the problem now though is that the average person doesn’t have the money to buy a tank.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

To the people in the comments that think that you having a gun makes you equal to a military soldier, much less the government as a whole, I don't know what to say except you overestimate yourself way too much.

The standards of soldiers are collapsing as they are just becoming fat incels that masturbate all day to female hulk, so I’d say the ordinary dude would be superior to the loser, but not the government

The government has bombs. You can't legally buy crap like that. Then there's bulletproof armor. Yeah, its legal to buy, but crazy expensive for the good stuff. A gun ain't going to put you on even fighting grounds with a single soldier, much less the government.

this is why Sid Kagenoh wanted the power to survive a nuclear bomb

As for my actual thoughts, I think we do rely way too much on guns for no reason.

Yes

Yeah, there's a reason for the second amendment, and I support it, but there needs to be way WAY more restrictions. I can legally go buy a gun right now with little to no issues, and who knows what I'd do with it.

Gun restriction policies usually snowball into efforts to completely destroy the second amendment. Red flag laws would basically phase out gun rights.

The people I'm buying it from don't know, and they wouldn't care. As far as they know, I could be a crazy psychopath, and they'd still sell it to me anyway.

Pretty sure we have already have restrictions on that. Like dudes with mental illness can’t obtain guns or sell them.

And if you're argument with the govt is that they have more expensive toys, you're not using your imagination enough, nor are you learning from any guerrilla conflict that has bogged down conventional militaries for decades.

The only reason why we lost in guerrilla war campaigns was because our military is retarded and we had no reason to fight. The globalists could have won the Afghan war by indoctrinating the afghan children en masse.

Also a govt bombing its own people is pretty self defeating.

not really. the globalist government considers itself to be wholly separate from the American people. They are enlightened and embraced wokeness and have soros bucks! They are not red america who wants to have normal families, and no drugs! If the government had the right people rather than globalist shills, yeah they wouldn’t be bombing us. But since the globalist are not American and anti Christian they are completely different. They are the enemy.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

Actual answer, it helps stop criminals. If a violent criminal breaks into your home and you do not have a pistol or rifle, all you can do is call the police, hide, and pray the criminal doesnt find you. But life is rarely so kind. The best option in such a situation is to protect yourself. The police might not arrive in time to save you. But if you have a pistol or rifle, you can protect yourself.

Guns are the best way to protect yourself and your family. They can even enable a pregnant woman to stop armed assailants(https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...0QFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw23RMHNmlYlsEfowzkFvPra). People do not worship guns, but they respect them because a pistol is the best way to defend yourself.

True, but sadly, most blue states make it a felony to protect yourself in your own home with a gun if the person breaking into your home has a weapon considered less dangerous than than the gun. For example, if someone breaks into my home with a bat, I can't shoot him because I would go to jail even though the person broke into my home with a weapon. Now, if the person had a gun then I could shoot them, but only if they were facing me. If they were facing away from me then I would be arrested because it wasn't self defense despite trespassing in my home with a weapon.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

The bigger and more guns a person has, the more "powerful" he becomes.

And who has the most power? The government of course.

Not really. I’d say the government in its current derives most its power not from its military, but it’s propaganda and alliance with the billionaire globalist oligarchs

Actual answer, it helps stop criminals. If a violent criminal breaks into your home and you do not have a pistol or rifle, all you can do is call the police, hide, and pray the criminal doesnt find you. But life is rarely so kind. The best option in such a situation is to protect yourself. The police might not arrive in time to save you. But if you have a pistol or rifle, you can protect yourself.

Guns are the best way to protect yourself and your family. They can even enable a pregnant woman to stop armed assailants(https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...0QFnoECAkQAQ&usg=AOvVaw23RMHNmlYlsEfowzkFvPra)

real

People do not worship guns, but they respect them because a pistol is the best way to defend yourself.

I’ve actually seen people treat guns more important than their families and God, not because it’s a way of self defense but it’s an artificial liberty.

I really don’t want to get into politics here, but it isn’t easy to buy a gun legally in America. I had a 10 day waiting period to buy the first one.

granted some states are more lax than others.

true. Constitutional carry and stuff will be coming in 2023

2nd amendment basically means we have the right to own what the government owns, the problem now though is that the average person doesn’t have the money to buy a tank.

Not really the best way to describe it. 2nd amendment just means that the state doesn’t have a monopoly on the usage of force. I’d say the issue isn’t that dudes don’t have tanks, but society is too rotten and there are too much villains. From common criminals, and drug dealers to globalist oligarchs, and professional politicians. It’s just wrong to seek out a void power situation as power will always exist, so instead just keep power in the hands of the virtuous

True, but sadly, most blue states make it a felony to protect yourself in your own home with a gun if the person breaking into your home has a weapon considered less dangerous than than the gun. For example, if someone breaks into my home with a bat, I can't shoot him because I would go to jail even though the person broke into my home with a weapon. Now, if the person had a gun then I could shoot them, but only if they were facing me. If they were facing away from me then I would be arrested because it wasn't self defense despite trespassing in my home with a weapon.

Chicago moment

 

[georgelee5786]

I’ve actually seen people treat guns more important than their families and God, not because it’s a way of self defense but it’s an artificial liberty.

Fair. I'm sure there are those who worship guns, but not all who own a pistol or rifle do. Many just want to protect themselves and their families.

True, but sadly, most blue states make it a felony to protect yourself in your own home with a gun if the person breaking into your home has a weapon considered less dangerous than than the gun. For example, if someone breaks into my home with a bat, I can't shoot him because I would go to jail even though the person broke into my home with a weapon. Now, if the person had a gun then I could shoot them, but only if they were facing me. If they were facing away from me then I would be arrested because it wasn't self defense despite trespassing in my home with a weapon.

Once more, NC makes me question if we are red or blue. This state is very confusing sometimes

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Not really the best way to describe it. 2nd amendment just means that the state doesn’t have a monopoly on the usage of force. I’d say the issue isn’t that dudes don’t have tanks, but society is too rotten and there are too much villains. From common criminals, and drug dealers to globalist oligarchs, and professional politicians. It’s just wrong to seek out a void power situation as power will always exist, so instead just keep power in the hands of the virtuous

Im going to say something that might offend you, but you are way too subjective when it comes to these topics.

words like “virtuous” mean nothing when even the communist who kills and starves others “for the people” claim their virtue by contributing to the society.

If society is rotten then how do we determine who has the moral high ground? If you say you’re the only one with the moral high ground then there is a bias there about what that constitutes unless you can explain what the moral high ground is and why it’s there.

The “monopoly on power” argument makes little sense because the American constitution was made with elections, checks and balances between branches and a representative democracy over a popular one so the monopoly wouldn’t take over.

Granted 200 years later the corruption has entered the system and at almost every level of government, but the 2nd amendment was never about “monopoly of power.”

it’s about securing the ability to fight back against the government, granted with the advances in technology the soldier has way more equipment than the average person but that’s also because people have become less independent and more reliant on society as a whole.

We aren’t the agricultural farming society, we are the now the industrial society where if 90% of people stopped working we would still have enough food if it were freely distributed by those who farmed and worked in that industry (would be completely unfair to them by the way). Without the grocery store, the vast majority of us would starve.

“The security of a free state, the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.” That is if someone isn’t harming the rights of others then they have the right to own weapons, not just guns but “arms”.

this included cannons back in those days.

As far as why should anyone be allowed to own them? Well, before firearms was there ever a chance for a 4’11 thin woman to kill a 6’8 muscular strongman?

If you are a society that trusts your government, or if your society wouldn’t survive without trusting your government like Israel then sure, there won’t be tyranny because they have to look at their enemies all around and the government doesn’t have time to go after citizens.

But America isn’t Israel or Europe for that matter, we are isolated between two oceans and I highly doubt Mexico or Canada is going to send troops to invade.