What do you think about average reading comprehension

[AwakenFreddy]

Okay bit of a rant here.

Spoiler: Rant

While i read some comment on some manga. Quite a lot comment say "Why mc is a meek/ a pussy" while in chapter 1 it already said that mc mother is quite abusive mentally, always downplay mc something like "why you always useless".

And in the story, because he need guarantor for his apartment even if tehnically he can live with his friend or have his friend become the guarantor, he choose his mom. But then some comment "why would he ask his *bad word* mother to be his guarantor. He should leave his mother rotting alone".

Okay firstly, what the problem with being meek / a pussy, not all people can be brave, heck as someone that go with the current i can see myself being meek if i cant find what i good at and feel useless. And in story his meek is explained because his parent.

And he call his mom to be guarantor is the closure he need. The manga already tell that he care about other especially his friend so he doesnt want to incovinient her. And he think by becoming independent and not running away from the problem is what what he can do to stop worrying his friend. And what the best way to start it than to fix / find closure to his old problem, by proving that he is not useless to his mother.

Yes, all of that is inline with what the character would based on what the manga already tell.

And that is the story that tell the reader staight forward without hidden meaning, implecation, double speak, and etc etc.

What do you guys think current average reading comprehension?

Some of my friend even feel that reading one paragraf already make him confuse, bored, or too lazy

 

[dukerino]

The average reading score for both fourth and eighth graders in 2024 was two points lower than in 2022 and five points lower than 2019. We're definitely trending downward. You could blame it on all sorts of things and tbh I think most of them are right. Lots of stuff contributing.

oh well!

 

[Deleted member 84247]

Average reader comprehension is not good, especially in the US. Many adults in the US can't even read at a high school level, and sometimes you read comments that make you doubt the world around you.

 

[Forcalor]

I might be biased, but general manga readers doesn't strike me as people with high reading comprehension
Your average adult these days seems to be a person with symptoms of ADHD who simply wants to be distracted for a little while and reads only for pleasure. Don't go too tough on them

 

[Kenjona]

Okay bit of a rant here.

Spoiler: Rant

While i read some comment on some manga. Quite a lot comment say "Why mc is a meek/ a pussy" while in chapter 1 it already said that mc mother is quite abusive mentally, always downplay mc something like "why you always useless".

And in the story, because he need guarantor for his apartment even if tehnically he can live with his friend or have his friend become the guarantor, he choose his mom. But then some comment "why would he ask his *bad word* mother to be his guarantor. He should leave his mother rotting alone".

Okay firstly, what the problem with being meek / a pussy, not all people can be brave, heck as someone that go with the current i can see myself being meek if i cant find what i good at and feel useless. And in story his meek is explained because his parent.

And he call his mom to be guarantor is the closure he need. The manga already tell that he care about other especially his friend so he doesnt want to incovinient her. And he think by becoming independent and not running away from the problem is what what he can do to stop worrying his friend. And what the best way to start it than to fix / find closure to his old problem, by proving that he is not useless to his mother.

Yes, all of that is inline with what the character would based on what the manga already tell.

And that is the story that tell the reader staight forward without hidden meaning, implecation, double speak, and etc etc.

What do you guys think current average reading comprehension?

Some of my friend even feel that reading one paragraf already make him confuse, bored, or too lazy

There is so much to unpack with this, I am going to try and keep it short.

My Opinion for what it is worth.

• Part of the issue is that schools no longer require writing skills, as much as they used to, in the average classroom. Said skill promotes reading comprehension. If you cannot write well, why should you be expected to comprehend what you are reading as well.
• As importantly we have gone away from checking our own written work, when we write and just type away then post away. To be a bit of a brute as it were, I would like to point out your own rant as an exhibit of said issue.
• Texting has become an allowable form of writing, which has way too many short cuts for words and drops grammar completely. It is easy to miscomprehend texts when they must communicate more info than what would fit in a sentence or two.

I would also like to point out this has been a growing trend since at least the 1970's. When Colleges had to start remedial English for incoming Freshmen, as many had passed High School with little to no ability to read and write. So, we cannot blame texting for everything, though I know some like to do so, however I do think it has exacerbated the issue greatly.

From a research study paper: https://nces.ed.gov/pubs91/91191.pdf

“In the 1970s, remedial education at 2-year and 4-year colleges became more common in response to changing enrollment patterns of entering freshmen, declining high school achievement levels, and adoption of open admission standards on the part of many institutions.”

 

[BigBadBoi]

Okay bit of a rant here.

Spoiler: Rant

While i read some comment on some manga. Quite a lot comment say "Why mc is a meek/ a pussy" while in chapter 1 it already said that mc mother is quite abusive mentally, always downplay mc something like "why you always useless".

And in the story, because he need guarantor for his apartment even if tehnically he can live with his friend or have his friend become the guarantor, he choose his mom. But then some comment "why would he ask his *bad word* mother to be his guarantor. He should leave his mother rotting alone".

Okay firstly, what the problem with being meek / a pussy, not all people can be brave, heck as someone that go with the current i can see myself being meek if i cant find what i good at and feel useless. And in story his meek is explained because his parent.

And he call his mom to be guarantor is the closure he need. The manga already tell that he care about other especially his friend so he doesnt want to incovinient her. And he think by becoming independent and not running away from the problem is what what he can do to stop worrying his friend. And what the best way to start it than to fix / find closure to his old problem, by proving that he is not useless to his mother.

Yes, all of that is inline with what the character would based on what the manga already tell.

And that is the story that tell the reader staight forward without hidden meaning, implecation, double speak, and etc etc.

What do you guys think current average reading comprehension?

Some of my friend even feel that reading one paragraf already make him confuse, bored, or too lazy

These are the types of people that will mock you for "lacking media literacy" btw. It honestly got way worse after COVID because these dumbasses started swarming anime and manga like locusts because they were stuck inside their homes back in 2020.

 

[Navillus]

I’ve never personally had a problem with reading comprehension personally… so I am extremely clueless of this topic as it’s always been quite easy to comprehend things for me? For example if I felt like it it would be rather easy to learn geometry… it’s just I haven’t had a reason but the comprehension of it is rather easy… as for reading a normal novel that is a process I’ve always found incredibly enjoyable! I often re-read some of my more favorite stories every year or so to see if I can see things that I may not have noticed in the path… though I’m not sure if that’s considered reading comprehension but it sure is interesting! Nonetheless I’m confused now and I want a nap-nyah.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

People will always have difficulty comprehending things they haven't personally experienced, such as an abusive mother. Often, people gravitate towards stories that resonate with their experiences on an emotional level.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

People will always have difficulty comprehending things they haven't personally experienced, such as an abusive mother. Often, people gravitate towards stories that resonate with their experiences on an emotional level.

I have a very high level of reader comprehension for abusive mothers.

 

[Valmond]

Pretty much, at least in the U.S it has been a downward trend. It is how the school system is structured, as well as the cuts to education and its funding as well.

Let alone how the U.S does not prioritize children learning, to the point where school turns into a daycare, teachers cannot properly teach due to parents not parenting.

It got so bad, that teachers who do not want to leave end up leaving. Since they can’t even do their jobs.

You see, teachers aren’t all about work. Though, if you show competence and can engage with the material. They have more time, and can better implement more break sessions for a healthier environment.

However, if the students cannot even read on their grade level, it creates a ton of problems.

I’ve noticed myself, from my own writing. How the comprehension has dropped. When years before, readers were able to figure out the nuances, other complexities, meaning, etc with some effort.

Unfortunately, the current trend will no doubt negatively impact the lives of those who cannot properly read. It will open them up to more scams, they will get lied to easier, they’ll likely be much more harmful to themselves.

Reading is the backbone of a functional society, and I’ve been noting the decease over many years.

 

[Arkus86]

Okay bit of a rant here.

Spoiler: Rant

While i read some comment on some manga. Quite a lot comment say "Why mc is a meek/ a pussy" while in chapter 1 it already said that mc mother is quite abusive mentally, always downplay mc something like "why you always useless".

And in the story, because he need guarantor for his apartment even if tehnically he can live with his friend or have his friend become the guarantor, he choose his mom. But then some comment "why would he ask his *bad word* mother to be his guarantor. He should leave his mother rotting alone".

Okay firstly, what the problem with being meek / a pussy, not all people can be brave, heck as someone that go with the current i can see myself being meek if i cant find what i good at and feel useless. And in story his meek is explained because his parent.

And he call his mom to be guarantor is the closure he need. The manga already tell that he care about other especially his friend so he doesnt want to incovinient her. And he think by becoming independent and not running away from the problem is what what he can do to stop worrying his friend. And what the best way to start it than to fix / find closure to his old problem, by proving that he is not useless to his mother.

Yes, all of that is inline with what the character would based on what the manga already tell.

And that is the story that tell the reader staight forward without hidden meaning, implecation, double speak, and etc etc.

What do you guys think current average reading comprehension?

Some of my friend even feel that reading one paragraf already make him confuse, bored, or too lazy

In my opinion there are two factors to this - reading comprehension, which I'm not going to claim is particularly high in some circles, and reading retention. By which I mean those commenters might have read all the things you are pointing out, but they do not retain that information between chapters, even if they comprehended it.

 

[PancakesWitch]

Sometimes its not about lack of reading comprehension, its just a lack of emotional intelligence in most people, what you mentioned about abuse that can change someone's personality to be meek/shy/passive is not something people will usually connect the dots for. The majority nowadays also lack empathy so they cannot feel the same as the character, and also when they read they want awesome and cool mcs that aren't filled with the flaws we all have, they want the least realitic thing imaginable to self insert... this is a disease that has spread around the world for a while. You literally can't write a story about a person with flaws or that's emotionally fragile without being hated for it, but I guess female characters get a pass... sometimes
Everything has to be emotionless, and always be cool and "farm aura" or whatever, it never has to be about emotions or people, it never has to be about overcoming weakness, it has to be about jackass, bastards, assholes doing whatever they want and abusing/killing/raping people.
They always say that "goody two shoes" are cliche, but I would say that what I mentioned before has become the cliche thing nowadays, emotionless, stoic, heartless, apathetic, and overall psychopathic edgelords is what everyone craves and barks for, drooling for more without end.

 

[Sola-sama]

I have a very high level of reader comprehension for abusive mothers.

Beeg oof.

Okay bit of a rant here.

Spoiler: Rant

While i read some comment on some manga. Quite a lot comment say "Why mc is a meek/ a pussy" while in chapter 1 it already said that mc mother is quite abusive mentally, always downplay mc something like "why you always useless".

And in the story, because he need guarantor for his apartment even if tehnically he can live with his friend or have his friend become the guarantor, he choose his mom. But then some comment "why would he ask his *bad word* mother to be his guarantor. He should leave his mother rotting alone".

Okay firstly, what the problem with being meek / a pussy, not all people can be brave, heck as someone that go with the current i can see myself being meek if i cant find what i good at and feel useless. And in story his meek is explained because his parent.

And he call his mom to be guarantor is the closure he need. The manga already tell that he care about other especially his friend so he doesnt want to incovinient her. And he think by becoming independent and not running away from the problem is what what he can do to stop worrying his friend. And what the best way to start it than to fix / find closure to his old problem, by proving that he is not useless to his mother.

Yes, all of that is inline with what the character would based on what the manga already tell.

And that is the story that tell the reader staight forward without hidden meaning, implecation, double speak, and etc etc.

What do you guys think current average reading comprehension?

Some of my friend even feel that reading one paragraf already make him confuse, bored, or too lazy

Bro people has always been dumb. It's just that, nowadays they are having access to the internet and make themselves known to the public.

 

[whatswrongwithme22]

Sometimes, IMO, it's just projection. Some people read to put themselves in the protagonist's shoes, so seeing a protagonist who is weak, meek, or useless isn't really the ideal character they want to project onto.

Seeing and reading realistic traits can also take them out of their projection. They want to read fantasy, where they aren't reminded of reality. They might say, "I wouldn't do this! I would fight! I would grind so hard!" Pretty sure that if they were doing what they're commenting on, they wouldn't be commenting or reading a lot of novels or mangas, in the first place.

And most of all, most people are often superficial; they won't dig deep into things and will take them at face value.

...Or maybe they're just edgy teens. That also applies, haha.

 

[JayMark]

It's just average.

 

[Corty]

It's getting worse year after year. It is not even about understanding what they read, but the ability to keep reading and not interrupt every sentence with a YouTube short to ease the pain of having to concentrate.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

There's nothing wrong with reading comprehension. The reason people act that way is because they don't need it. They treat manga and by extension web and light novels as b-tier entertainment, so they don't treat it with respect. Which result in skimming through content rather than reading it in-depth. The fact they can do it on their phone while on the go only adds to this treatment.

 

[Alski]

Between the poor reading comprehension in some first world countries and having a large readerbase from non english speaking countries you will find a large % of your readers dont have a solid grasp of english.

 

[Deleted member 206441]

Tbh, idc.

 

[DeepWater]

They did a study where a bunch of college students read the preamble to the US Constitution and not a single one could summarize it correctly.