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I don't know if I should cry at the unfairness of it all. Will I never get on the trending page?
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That's a lot of page views just by itself.

I imagine, given my own experience, that after such a large spike, it will put you on there somewhere in the next day or two. It's hard to say what spot. But I've been on it several times, and it seems to like oscillating peaks and troughs.

One day I posted two chapters about.. ugh idk? 12 to 14 hours apart and the resulting spike put me on there the next day?

Though, those two chapters I posted gave me the same amount of page views as a day on trending.

Really though, I never wrote with the goal to be on it, and I don't know if it's something you should either, at least not on it's own.

If you want something to compare against, here is my own data:


Given my history, I would be surprised if you weren't somewhere on the list, it goes up to like #160 something?

I hope that helps.. in some way?



In lighter news... I wrote a couple of short stories here on the forums about the Trending Tab as a character. Maybe it'll give you a laugh and a smile!

Story1:

Story2 (Same thread):
 

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Look at those views. I get less even though my story has gone on for longer. :cry:
Mine or Theirs or both? You seem to be doing just fine, I just checked yours. You have 10 times the total views my story does, if that helps, lol.

If it makes you feel better I unintentionally cheated.
Apparently, I accidentally used seduce on Tabby-chan and it was super effective. :blob_pout:


I wrote a gender bender story about a transgirl who was isekai'd as a shapeshifting vampiric succubus, and I used the smut tag.
I only wanted to practice my writing, and I wanted to try a bit of everything. I expected maybe a few dozen people.

I got a lot more than I bargained for >.>

I wish you luck with yours! I've peeked in at it, read the first chapters, I enjoyed it so far, not far enough in to give a meaningful opinion though.
 

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I don't know if I should cry at the unfairness of it all. Will I never get on the trending page?
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Compare the stats on your novel with those in the trending, compare stats other than views and you would kind of understand how to get into trending. And seriously, stop asking this kind of question as it will inevitably lead to changes in the whole trending system. Even what I said is already bad enough. If it becomes an open secret that is abused, then it will be changed. That's it.
And then people would start asking again, to the point where it is unveiled and changed again. Don't add more work to the administrator of this site.
If you just want to say that this isn't fair that you don't get to trending, a lot of other stories, that had a great overall combination of stats, don't get into trending. You are not alone here.
 

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That's a lot of page views just by itself.

I imagine, given my own experience, that after such a large spike, it will put you on there somewhere in the next day or two. It's hard to say what spot. But I've been on it several times, and it seems to like oscillating peaks and troughs.

One day I posted two chapters about.. ugh idk? 12 to 14 hours apart and the resulting spike put me on there the next day?

Though, those two chapters I posted gave me the same amount of page views as a day on trending.

Really though, I never wrote with the goal to be on it, and I don't know if it's something you should either, at least not on it's own.

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Hopefully I will get there like you said!
 

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And seriously, stop asking this kind of question as it will inevitably lead to changes in the whole trending system. Even what I said is already bad enough. If it becomes an open secret that is abused, then it will be changed. That's it.
And then people would start asking again, to the point where it is unveiled and changed again. Don't add more work to the administrator of this site.
Eek... should I delete my chart and what I said?
 

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don't know if I should cry at the unfairness of it all.
You shouldn't. It's not unfair. Will not say more.

Threads like these might as well be auto-locked because they cannot possibly lead to anything good. People either argue over how unfair/broken/rigged/good the system is or they have a productive discussion on how trending works, it has to be changed. rinse repeat
 

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Eek... should I delete my chart and what I said?
I would say the threads like this is more of a problem than discussion. I mean, I've had lots of times when I first started posting my novel here, when I thought I deserve to get into trending. Because I compared the stats with the number one trending on those days and I came out on top. And I'm sure there are a lot of people like me. But how come there isn't a flood of such questions?
Some people should just bear with it. As we would never understand how the trending work, and how 'fair' it is. The moment we do learn will be the day it will be changed. Accept these rules and be silent, as it's done so there will be no abuse. I'm not saying people who ask such questions want to abuse the system, but there will be people who succumb to this temptation.
 

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I would say the threads like this is more of a problem than discussion. I mean, I've had lots of times when I first started posting my novel here, when I thought I deserve to get into trending.
Ah, ok. I just don't want to make things worse.

Honestly, I kinda feel bad about getting it, like I don't deserve it. Many have told me otherwise. I guess they are right, I did do work, but still, it doesn't make me feel any less... conflicted.

I never wrote with the intention to be on it, and I think that is likely one of the most important things. I feel like anyone writing to be on trending, is simply going to end up in the same situation as any other product, movie, tv show, video game, etc. etc. that tried to cater to the widest audience and becomes a ghostly shadow devoid of any life or soul.

I can't speak to the fairness as I have a hard time accepting it. Which I'm not sure if that makes it worse, that I got something others covet unintentionally and have trouble even feeling like I should have.

I'm just happy to have people reading, and what makes me super excited to post a new chapter is watching all the people catch up and seeing people vote in my poll, and looking forward to any comments I get. It still blows my mind that so many people read it, and that posting two chapters in a day rivals the response of being on trending.

I have no words that feel accurate enough to describe my feelings for it. Astonishing is close but it feels surreal and just.. a mixture of amazement, joy, a confidence boost but at the same time a feeling like, it can't be real, It has to be a mistake or accident or.. something.

To me trending isn't some magical thing, and I don't think it's a good goal, in fact, I recently read/posted in a thread where someone wrote with a goal to be on trending, achieved it, then felt unmotivated and was having difficulty writing. Top that off with the fact, almost all my 1 star ratings came after I hit trending. Thankfully I've only had one, truly negative comment, but even then it wasn't completely hateful and it gave me some information.

I don't really care, for the most part, about trending. It's... nice but also scary, and I honestly feel like if it's too easy it's not special anymore. So, I think, just writing something you enjoy, is the best way forward for one's sanity and mental fortitude.

I didn't intend to ramble on for so long, sorry about that. I just, have so many feelings around it, and I.. am still so new here, and to writing and yet somehow got on it many times, on the front page, and it's scary, and exciting, and worrisome and I feel like a fake, imposter, unworthy, but yet it also boosted my confidence, and it's so fucking weird.

I really just, don't feel like it's a good end goal or something to obsess over, but I have no idea if my view has been skewed now.

Ugh. I just hope you all can have a wonderful day and enjoy writing your stories and find the happiness and success your efforts merit.
 

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Mine or Theirs or both? You seem to be doing just fine, I just checked yours. You have 10 times the total views my story does, if that helps, lol.

It's all about the views you get per day. Naturally, if you write for longer, you'll have more total views. And my views per day have stagnated for months, except for the really rare occasion where I get a really high view bump. Still don't know how that happens.

I wish you luck with yours! I've peeked in at it, read the first chapters, I enjoyed it so far, not far enough in to give a meaningful opinion though.

Thank you! :s_smile:
 

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Ah, ok. I just don't want to make things worse.

Honestly, I kinda feel bad about getting it, like I don't deserve it. Many have told me otherwise. I guess they are right, I did do work, but still, it doesn't make me feel any less... conflicted.

I never wrote with the intention to be on it, and I think that is likely one of the most important things. I feel like anyone writing to be on trending, is simply going to end up in the same situation as any other product, movie, tv show, video game, etc. etc. that tried to cater to the widest audience and becomes a ghostly shadow devoid of any life or soul.

I can't speak to the fairness as I have a hard time accepting it. Which I'm not sure if that makes it worse, that I got something others covet unintentionally and have trouble even feeling like I should have.

I'm just happy to have people reading, and what makes me super excited to post a new chapter is watching all the people catch up and seeing people vote in my poll, and looking forward to any comments I get. It still blows my mind that so many people read it, and that posting two chapters in a day rivals the response of being on trending.

I have no words that feel accurate enough to describe my feelings for it. Astonishing is close but it feels surreal and just.. a mixture of amazement, joy, a confidence boost but at the same time a feeling like, it can't be real, It has to be a mistake or accident or.. something.

To me trending isn't some magical thing, and I don't think it's a good goal, in fact, I recently read/posted in a thread where someone wrote with a goal to be on trending, achieved it, then felt unmotivated and was having difficulty writing. Top that off with the fact, almost all my 1 star ratings came after I hit trending. Thankfully I've only had one, truly negative comment, but even then it wasn't completely hateful and it gave me some information.

I don't really care, for the most part, about trending. It's... nice but also scary, and I honestly feel like if it's too easy it's not special anymore. So, I think, just writing something you enjoy, is the best way forward for one's sanity and mental fortitude.

I didn't intend to ramble on for so long, sorry about that. I just, have so many feelings around it, and I.. am still so new here, and to writing and yet somehow got on it many times, on the front page, and it's scary, and exciting, and worrisome and I feel like a fake, imposter, unworthy, but yet it also boosted my confidence, and it's so fucking weird.

I really just, don't feel like it's a good end goal or something to obsess over, but I have no idea if my view has been skewed now.

Ugh. I just hope you all can have a wonderful day and enjoy writing your stories and find the happiness and success your efforts merit.
Why do you think you are not deserving of getting into trending? And why do you feel bad about it? We don't know why novels get into trending, and it may be a very 'fair' system. In the end, everyone in trending deserves it, as we don't know how to get there. Because it may count stats that are not seen to us, writers and readers.
As for why everyone wants to get into trending. Because it boosts your novel so much. You can easily double or triple your views and gain a lot of new readers. You can do it by just posting regularly, but the process would be much slower.
Though the recognition brings trolls and haters, it as well brings a lot of readers who enjoy your novel. They didn't bother or didn't have time to look for a novel, but when it gets into trending they click there and think, 'how come this gem was unnoticed'?
So it's a boost that can help you not only gain readers and recognition but works for you at gaining more money as well. If you want to be a full-time author and set up a Patreon, the more readers you gain, the higher the chance that someone would subscribe to you.
That's why there are talks about trending and how to get there. It's a boost that speeds up the development of your novel and potentially increases your income.
 

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Why do you think you are not deserving of getting into trending? And why do you feel bad about it? We don't know why novels get into trending, and it may be a very 'fair' system. In the end, everyone in trending deserves it, as we don't know how to get there. Because it may count stats that are not seen to us, writers and readers.
As for why everyone wants to get into trending. Because it boosts your novel so much. You can easily double or triple your views and gain a lot of new readers. You can do it by just posting regularly, but the process would be much slower.
Though the recognition brings trolls and haters, it as well brings a lot of readers who enjoy your novel. They didn't bother or didn't have time to look for a novel, but when it gets into trending they click there and think, 'how come this gem was unnoticed'?
So it's a boost that can help you not only gain readers and recognition but works for you at gaining more money as well. If you want to be a full-time author and set up a Patreon, the more readers you gain, the higher the chance that someone would subscribe to you.
That's why there are talks about trending and how to get there. It's a boost that speeds up the development of your novel and potentially increases your income.
Of course, we do know how to do get into it. Just dig around a bit and you will find the answer. I myself forced trending a few times already. Granted not always, I succeeded, but I often came close, landing on place 10, 11, 12 and missing trending by merely a few places.

But the baseline is, trending is not magic. You can reproduce it.
 

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Of course, we do know how to do get into it. Just dig around a bit and you will find the answer. I myself forced trending a few times already. Granted not always, I succeeded, but I often came close, landing on place 10, 11, 12 and missing trending by merely a few places.

But the baseline is, trending is not magic. You can reproduce it.
My point is, trending speeds up the development. If you constantly get into the top three of trending, in the end, all the readers that wanted to click on the novel would end. And you would not benefit from the trending, at least not as much.
But before that, you want to speed up the gaining of the critical mass. As much as you can, and trending helps it. As much as we are looking for specific readers, that would enjoy our particular work, readers look for a specific novel. With so many novels out there, getting into trending helps out both the readers and authors. Even without trending, you would eventually gain everything, that's why I'm talking it's a help, not a necessity or magic.
 

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Trending is like PS5, it's Real and Exists but hard to reach.
You might like this channel, they've been posting a lot of funny skits about stuff like the PS5, Xbox, and the totally not available Nvidia cards, etc.

Why do you think you are not deserving of getting into trending? And why do you feel bad about it?
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So it's a boost that can help you not only gain readers and recognition but works for you at gaining more money as well. If you want to be a full-time author and set up a Patreon, the more readers you gain, the higher the chance that someone would subscribe to you.
That's why there are talks about trending and how to get there. It's a boost that speeds up the development of your novel and potentially increases your income.
Ugh.. I don't want to be rambling so much. I'm going to reply to this but then try and not.. I don't want to take over this thread. I'm posting too much now >.>

It's my first story and I just wanted to practice. I didn't even consider... any of this. I've been more interested in finding out what happens next in my story along with the readers, than.. trending.

I... feel worse now too, I haven't thought at all about money, I mean, it would be nice, even if I only got enough to have some art commissioned, but, I really don't feel worthy. It's, just... ugh, what right do I have to ask for money on something I just started writing blindly, I have a lot of lore and worldbuilding now but it's just my first attempt, and for practice and was very unplanned at the start.

I have an idea I really want to do, but I wanted to practice for it, but even my practice was being bogged down in worldbuilding and I just wanted to actually write, so I made up a random story as practice before my practice.

I... how could I ask for money, much less.. just, gaining so much attention, I worry I stole the spot from someone more deserving, even though it's been pointed out to me that it's not really true or something, I still feel conflicted. Logic is Logic, and I understand it, but I still feel the way I feel.

I'm just happy to have people who seem to enjoy my story, and my writing, and I'm trying to improve it, and explore ideas and do things differently from all the things that annoy me with other stories in the genres I'm tackling(right now mostly isekai, but later I plan to try all sorts of things in the story)

I want to stop rambling now. I'm starting to feel super anxious. I.. please, I don't mean any ill intent, and I wish everyone well. I... kind of regret saying it publically so directly now. But it's out there already. I hope I didn't make anyone feel worse or come off ungrateful.

I am going to stop now, other people can talk, I'm posting too much.
 

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You might like this channel, they've been posting a lot of funny skits about stuff like the PS5, Xbox, and the totally not available Nvidia cards, etc.


Ugh.. I don't want to be rambling so much. I'm going to reply to this but then try and not.. I don't want to take over this thread. I'm posting too much now >.>

It's my first story and I just wanted to practice. I didn't even consider... any of this. I've been more interested in finding out what happens next in my story along with the readers, than.. trending.

I... feel worse now too, I haven't thought at all about money, I mean, it would be nice, even if I only got enough to have some art commissioned, but, I really don't feel worthy. It's, just... ugh, what right do I have to ask for money on something I just started writing blindly, I have a lot of lore and worldbuilding now but it's just my first attempt, and for practice and was very unplanned at the start.

I have an idea I really want to do, but I wanted to practice for it, but even my practice was being bogged down in worldbuilding and I just wanted to actually write, so I made up a random story as practice before my practice.

I... how could I ask for money, much less.. just, gaining so much attention, I worry I stole the spot from someone more deserving, even though it's been pointed out to me that it's not really true or something, I still feel conflicted. Logic is Logic, and I understand it, but I still feel the way I feel.

I'm just happy to have people who seem to enjoy my story, and my writing, and I'm trying to improve it, and explore ideas and do things differently from all the things that annoy me with other stories in the genres I'm tackling(right now mostly isekai, but later I plan to try all sorts of things in the story)

I want to stop rambling now. I'm starting to feel super anxious. I.. please, I don't mean any ill intent, and I wish everyone well. I... kind of regret saying it publically so directly now. But it's out there already. I hope I didn't make anyone feel worse or come off ungrateful.

I am going to stop now, other people can talk, I'm posting too much.
You’re providing entertainment for people with your story, which comes at a considerable cost of your time. You are not charging people for it, but if they’re willing to support your work, then why are you worried?

Here’s how you ask: Hey if you like my work please consider supporting me on x and x platform. Word it better if you’d like, but that’s it. Again, you’re not forcing anybody.

Nobody deserves readers/places on trending. First story or 100th story, it doesn’t matter. We post our story, and whatever happens happens. If the readers are not interested in what you write, no matter how much you plug it or how much time you spend on it, people will still not want to read it.

Don’t worry about things like what’s fair for other writers. You write your story, we write ours.
 
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