To-Read Lists

[Moonpearl]

Do authors hate To-Read lists? (I'm okay with them myself, even when they make me nervous. But I know I'm not all people.)

Right now, my SH to-read list is kept off-site because I'm scared to artificially add to the number of "Readers" that stories have. I don't want authors (especially new authors) to get excited at seeing their Readers count rise and then see that it's me adding them to my "maybe" list.

It would be much more convenient for me to have my list on-site and it would probably give people a better idea of what I'm interested in, but...

My habits as a reader are terrible. Over on Novel Updates, I actually have two To-Read lists (three if you count the separate one I tried to make just for yuri), one which pretty much exists to say "Yeah, I'll read these soon, I think". But when does anything ever leave one of those two lists? They're massive.

My SH list is smaller and things do tend to move onto the "Reading" list, but they also tend to get deleted once I hit a point of realising that I no longer care.

So should I just cave and go for convenience, or are authors really going to be affected by this?

 

[Saileri]

Hmmm... I haven't thought about this when I created my 4 categories on Scribble... But now I feel bad for those authors in PTR list... I'm eternally on ch1 of their stories until I finally move onto it.

So, yeah, I support a PTR list or bookmark feature, that doesn't add to readers count. Can introduce "Bookmarked" or "Planned" count to not miss those people who save a novel, and still show them to the author.

 

[Deleted member 29316]

I'm pretty much fine with To-Read Lists. I don't really mind if a reader drops or continues my story, it's their preference. If someone tells me they're dropping my work, I'd just thank them for their interest.

This is modern literature. Everyone comes and goes as they please. As for me, I'll just write what I want to write; I do not plan to get paid for it anyway.

 

[Saileri]

I'm pretty much fine with To-Read Lists. I don't really mind if a reader drops or continues my story, it's their preference. If someone tells me they're dropping my work, I'd just thank them for their interest.

This is modern literature. Everyone comes and goes as they please. As for me, I'll just write what I want to write; I do not plan to get paid for it anyway.

I mean, I'm of the same view, but you know, currently, when you check the statistics tab of new or any series, there will be whole columns of 1/XX reader entries. For someone who didn't know how people save WN's, it might be confusing, making the author think they stopped at 1st chapter, but in reality they just added it to their PTR list. And it's not that much complex to create a Bookmarks tab for your profile. Then those "fake" bookmarks won't show as "reading".

 

[BenJepheneT]

Is there a neutral option for this poll? I don't necessarily think it belongs a special place in hell but I certainly don't like it either. It's just sort of a bummer to see a new reader but it still stays at a 1/ even after 3 hours. As of right now, the site says I have 54 readers but in reality, only 3 1/2 are really reading my stories. 1/2, because one of them only read about 6/11.

We could have a system would only count if the reader have read more than 5 chapters, but considering how easy it is to abuse it I'll just leave it at that.

 

[Deleted member 29316]

I mean, I'm of the same view, but you know, currently, when you check the statistics tab of new or any series, there will be whole columns of 1/XX reader entries. For someone who didn't know how people save WN's, it might be confusing, making the author think they stopped at 1st chapter, but in reality they just added it to their PTR list. And it's not that much complex to create a Bookmarks tab for your profile. Then those "fake" bookmarks won't show as "reading".

Hmm...about that, honestly, I don't know how it works. I'm an amateur when it comes to computer codes and stuff. What I do understand (and correct me if I got it wrong), is that the statistics update every 10 minutes.

That reminds me, there was also this case that a reader was conversing with me, and I could say he read the chapters up to its current one, and yet, the stats say that he only read 1/xx of my work. Strange...

Well, in any case, whether they actually read it or not won't make a difference for me as an author. I suffered a lot of rejections to be bothered by it, with readers going as far as to tell me that they're dropping my work because of some issues they find disagreeable (cultural difference, mostly). Regardless, I just want to write for the sake of storytelling.

I couldn't say the same to the others though.

 

[Deleted member 29316]

Is there a neutral option for this poll? I don't necessarily think it belongs a special place in hell but I certainly don't like it either. It's just sort of a bummer to see a new reader but it still stays at a 1/ even after 3 hours. As of right now, the site says I have 54 readers but in reality, only 3 1/2 are really reading my stories. 1/2, because one of them only read about 6/11.

We could have a system would only count if the reader have read more than 5 chapters, but considering how easy it is to abuse it I'll just leave it at that.

Ah...reading about these issues makes mle want to just disregard the stats and continue writing.

 

[BenJepheneT]

Ah...reading about these issues makes mle want to just disregard the stats and continue writing.

just write lmao you go homie

 

[Deleted member 29316]

just write lmao you go homie

Definitely.

 

[Moonpearl]

Is there a neutral option for this poll? I don't necessarily think it belongs a special place in hell but I certainly don't like it either. It's just sort of a bummer to see a new reader but it still stays at a 1/ even after 3 hours. As of right now, the site says I have 54 readers but in reality, only 3 1/2 are really reading my stories. 1/2, because one of them only read about 6/11.

We could have a system would only count if the reader have read more than 5 chapters, but considering how easy it is to abuse it I'll just leave it at that.

The neutral option was "It's a necessary evil".

That reminds me, there was also this case that a reader was conversing with me, and I could say he read the chapters up to its current one, and yet, the stats say that he only read 1/xx of my work. Strange...

It's because you have to manually tick the chapter you've read up to on Scribble Hub. It's easy to forget to do if you've read up to the latest update.

 

[Deleted member 29316]

The neutral option was "It's a necessary evil".



It's because you have to manually tick the chapter you've read up to on Scribble Hub. It's easy to forget to do if you've read up to the latest update.

I see...so that's how it works, huh? Well, no matter.

Thanks for the info, by the way!

 

[DDTStudios]

I personally don’t care as an author. I just write for fun. But as a reader, I do make a separate to read list.

 

[BenJepheneT]

The neutral option was "It's a necessary evil".

Calling it "evil" may be too on the nose but eh, fuck it

 

[Moonpearl]

Calling it "evil" may be too on the nose but eh, fuck it

"Necessary evil" is a phrase that doesn't necessarily mean that the thing in question is evil.

"Tommy was a pessimist and everybody hated having to be in the same room as him, but nobody could code a website like he could. Keeping him on the team was a necessary evil."

 

[GDLiZy]

"Necessary evil" is a phrase that doesn't necessarily mean that the thing in question is evil.

"Tommy was a pessimist and everybody hated having to be in the same room as him, but nobody could code a website like he could. Keeping him on the team was a necessary evil."

The connotation is that Tommy is bad but we don't have a choice so we have to endure him.

That's not neutral.

 

[BenJepheneT]

"Tommy was a pessimist and everybody hated having to be in the same room as him,

You literally mentioned his evil qualities beforehand. You made it sound less like a neutral option but more of a begrudging, reluctant acceptance.

 

[Moonpearl]

The connotation is that Tommy is bad but we don't have a choice so we have to endure him.

That's not neutral.

You literally mentioned his evil qualities beforehand. You made it sound less like a neutral option but more of a begrudging, reluctant acceptance.

If you read the first post, To Read lists have obvious downsides. That's why the neutral option is like that.

Also, hiring a pessimistic asshole isn't evil, it's just unpleasant. Hiring a puppy killer would be evil.

 

[atgongumerki]

I even have a list named 'trash'. I do not plan to ever read them I just want to remind myself not to continue reading them.
My other lists are divided into one active list, one list for novels where I am at the latest chapter, one list for novels I want to read but seem to be dead, and multiple 'maybe later' lists.
Ben's story, for example, is on one of the 'maybe later' lists. Pretty high up there, but I have not started yet as I am afraid of novels with low chapter counts.

 

[Moonpearl]

I even have a list named 'trash'. I do not plan to ever read them I just want to remind myself not to continue reading them.
My other lists are divided into one active list, one list for novels where I am at the latest chapter, one list for novels I want to read but seem to be dead, and multiple 'maybe later' lists.
Ben's story, for example, is on one of the 'maybe later' lists. Pretty high up there, but I have not started yet as I am afraid of novels with low chapter counts.

Ouch.

 

[Sabruness]

i, myself, have 8 lists on SH.
- Reading - self-explanatory
- Read - completed novels i've finished reading.
- Yuri - the "reading" list for yuri/GL.
- Yuri Read - GL version of the "read" list
- Maybe - my 'potentially to read' list. the list where i put novels that might interest me but not enough to immediately read them.
- Ecchi Stuff - for all the ecchi/smut het novels i read
- Hiatus Novels - name is self-explanatory
- Shit List - the dumping ground for general trash, fanfiction and anything else that i have absolutely no interest with which is hidden from the main page releases.

my shit list actually has more entries (308) by itself than the rest of the lists combined (293) so lists are very useful.