Stories of how you come to get inspired to write, the cost of writing, and the aftereffects from it?

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I'm not very proud of myself regarding this, let me tell you.
I'm not a native speaker of English, I'm Indonesian (and Javanese for the local language), and I started writing around 2019, before the virus hits.

It may just be depression from the pandemic post-2020, but I got to get this off my chest else I implode and does some shady IRL stuff like un-alive myself or something, which writing helps a lot to fend off that thought but it also has its own costs.

So at first look, writing cost you nothing aside from time and passion, right? Yes . . . at first.

In hindsight, Writing costs me a lot of things, things that I should have kept with me even with the constant struggle of living as a growing teenager, particularly on the language department.

Over here, we have about three languages (four if you're on Religious School) that we students attend to : Indonesian, Javanese, Arabic, and English.
Now, forgive me for saying this but I'm quite confident on the first and last subject, mostly getting around 60 to 90+ on both (B- to A+ if converted to American grades).

Now, Arabic is hard as it is sometimes known as the "Language from The Heavens", and I suppose that's true because it's hard but we Muslims do use it frequently because our Prayers and Holy Scriptures of Qur'an includes it in every aspect of our life. I do suppose I've learned most of its writing rules but only the ones inside Qur'an, I don't know how the real ones from way over at Middle-East does the thing, really. At least I get 40 to 90+ if lucky.

But Javanese? Not the Java program nor the programming language, the local language from over here has its own sets of rules and YET ANOTHER way of writing the language, Hanacaraka, and don't you get me started on the Ancient and Modern writing rules this one language have. I'm not fond of this one, easily 20 to 60 since I'm bad at it, and that's if I looked at my classmates works where we all share our written assignments together kind of thing.

So how does this tie in to the cost of writing? Well, Javanese are also used to socialise with people from around here but, you can say I'm one of the people who's left behind in terms of the local language because before quarantine started, I've gone to an islamic boarding school in name when in reality it's a boot camp for about 1-2 years at around 2016-2017 before dropping out with many bad things regarding it such as lack of hygene at places, outlandish rules where you got to wake up at around 3 A.M despite just sleeping 4 hours prior, and the rules that you got to either socialise with either English or Arabic with people, no inbetweens, so maybe this is the downhill of my local language department or I just suck at learning things I don't like... though I do suppose having a crocodile in a cage close to the football field and the drying clothes section to hear it grumble and feed it is cool and all.
At this time, I have MANY inspirations and idea on writing but I do it in English and the thing is we all are isolated from technology almost completely, and if you got found with any sort of electronic device whether that be a freaking Nokia (brick)phone or a wrist watch, you'd be grounded with feats of having to run around the whole complex or the field where both are about 0,5 Km . . . 5 TIMES.

After dropping out, my mind is more at ease, and more imaginations transpire from my mind, even as I breeze through the religious junior high-school at over here. The difficulty arises from the fact that I don't know whether to publish it or not, each chapter easily going over 9K+ and that's when done in a day, I was very fresh at the time.

But pandemy changed that for me, turning what was once a hobby turning into a sluggish checklist to do every day and then, heck I still feel it to this day, and I can guess some of you do too. Yet another blunder is that at this point of time, I had dreams upon dreams of my plot points and events and such, so I began to intensify further, and do you know where I post it first? Webnovel. Let's just say I condemn my past self for it.
From way over 9K+ a day to just about 300 if I'm in the mood for it but it's for the betterment of my mental state, eyebags isn't even an anomaly for me anymore.

Tell me what's you guys have to tell on how you guys were before and/or after writing and the consequences from it, I love hearing someone else's story of how far they come as an Author!
 
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Why is it that whenever I try to take a break online, good forum discussions come out? ??

Any case, me? I started as an aspiring manga artist, way back in 1998, when I realized I can draw (I was in 5th grade). Lots of learning and improving, then around in 2008-2009 (when I was in uni), I decided to take manga writing seriously.

In 2011 I wrote my very first complete chapter of my first story that I took seriously, which is DECK (I uploaded it here last time). However, I realized that, manga writing is hard when you got no assistants, given that it took me 8 months to write a single chapter and only around 5-10 minutes for a reader to skim my work.

So, I decided to try novel writing, since I can do more for a fraction of time.

Fast forward to 2019. After dawdling too much on DECK, I realized that my attitude for writing back then won't get me anywhere. So from being a laid back author, I switched to being a planner.

In May 2019, I wrote the first volume of my current main project, the Saint Series. I finished it by July that year, and it felt good.

I resigned from my work by January 2020, for a different reason. Then the pandemic happened in March, so I got lots of time to write, because I can't look for any work.

Five years, lots of negative reviews, feedback and 16 volumes later, I'm writing my 17th volume for my main project, on my way to its ultimate completion (which I planned to be the 20th volume).

Question is, did I sacrifice anything? Yep, a lot. But I guess it's worth it. Also from being a mediocre author who has no aim before, at least I'm proud to have something I manage to complete (once I wrote the final period for the 20th book).
 

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@SailusGebel The passage of time and buttloads of experience does that to you, making you open your eyes to a whole new perspective?

@Hans.Trondheim To be fair, I just noticed that there's another thread which is exactly this . . . you're may be a . . . eh, whatevs.
And yeah, there's a pursuit for a sense of accomplishment that felt great whenever you finish something, literally the only reason why I put my time on Single-player games instead of the constant bickering you'd have on Multi-player games. It's degrading almost everyone's mentality on our classes, not just mine and my classmates at it too.
You did great for having come a long way man, felt like following your steps and making sure I focus on a story and not make a mess of it like hiatus every 3 month or so because examination test and such.
 

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I started writing during Covid lockdown. I had nothing else to do and needed a coping mechanism because my life suddenly turned 180, from having friends to no friends, from being socially active to socially awkward. I got into depression, took lots of weight, and lost most of my self-confidence, my grades fell, etc. The writing was the only thing keeping me sane, but I made a mistake. I posted my story on Royal Road. It got review bombed to hell, and I lost my remaining self-confidence, but for some reason, I just kept writing, this time, with more effort and on different platforms. The only thing in my head was to make some writer friends online (which I somehow failed, like it's been more than two years here, and I don't know anybody here.) and write. My original story, somehow, got a decent amount of attention (a little more than 50k views and almost one thousand favorites.) While I can't say the same for my other works, my first story grew some confidence in me and made writing a part of me. Even if I don't upload a chapter for a month, I find myself writing something on my phone or working on a draft. It became a daily chore.
 

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Way back in college I started reading a lot of Japanese web novels (many of which have since become super mainstream like Shield Hero, Mushoku Tensei, Overlord, and Slime. Many didn't though like Re:Monster, Goblin Kingdom). I enjoyed them quite a bit, but there was always something I disliked about how they handled magic and litRPG elements. Namely, I didn't like that there wasn't actual logical elements to the worlds. They were self consistent in the story, but in a greater narrative sense, they weren't logical. Why would only NOW someone be this powerful, or why hasn't the world already been plunged into chaos? I wanted to make a world that had self-consistent rules that applied to everyone, and that the world itself wouldn't have these narrative flaws. So I started coming up with a world for this.

Fast forward a few years, and I'd played more D&D and done a bit of narrative story telling, and tried my hand at writing a little of this story. Then life happened, and I stopped again.

A few more years, and I re-wrote what I wrote the first time, and once again shelved it.

A few more years, and I re-wrote that story start for a third time, and kept with it. Now here I am. I always approached writing my current story from the perspective of "I just want to throw it out there, and see what people think." Now, I've got about 2000 people reading across platforms, so I would say it's going well. I've got a Patreon set up to monetize my work.

That said, what I put out is still first draft, and I don't intend to change that for a web novel. Even if I start to make a lot of money. The intent now is to use it as a gauge, and use the feedback like how many forerunners did in the genre. I'll finish out the web novel, and using money from Patreon, I'll try my damnedest to make a novel, which involves a full re-write, commissioned artwork, the whole edit and re-edit process, etc.

I'll never take my web novel down of my own volition though, even if it might cut into light novel profits. The only reason I would is for contractual reasons related to getting a T.V. Show or Movie (very very very unlikely). The communities who showed me that what I was writing is popular enough to read deserve that much of leaving the original story up. Now, the re-write will have changes to it, and (I hope) will be better, but we'll see.

As far as how it's changed me? I spend a lot less time gaming, and more time writing now, but other than that, I'm pretty much still the same person.
 
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@SailusGebel The passage of time and buttloads of experience does that to you, making you open your eyes to a whole new perspective?

@Hans.Trondheim To be fair, I just noticed that there's another thread which is exactly this . . . may you're a . . . eh, whatevs.
Eh, I got no time to sift through the heaps of threads just to reply. And since you posted this at the time I'm trying to take a break online while I'm sick, hence the question.
And yeah, there's a pursuit for a sense of accomplishment that felt great whenever you finish something, literally the only reason why I put my time on Single-player games instead of the constant bickering you'd have on Multi-player games. It's degrading almost everyone's mentality on our classes, not just mine and my classmates at it too.
You did great for having come a long way man, felt like following your steps and making sure I focus on a story and not make a mess of it like hiatus every 3 month or so because examination test and such.
For this, my keys are focus and determination to follow through what I started.

I've mentioned a lot times in this forum (and even argued with naysayers), that whenever I'm in my writing mode, I self-isolate--no games, no TV shows, no movies, no reading (save for research articles), and not even time for socmeds. I also impose on myself a deadline, which always lasts a month, and a three-time edit system so I won't be tempted to always edit and rewrite my work.

Also, I complete a full manuscript (not by chapters) before releasing it to the online wilderness.
 

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@SailusGebel The passage of time and buttloads of experience does that to you, making you open your eyes to a whole new perspective?
I'm not sure if this is a question or a typo. If this is a question, yeah. Something along the lines of what you wrote. I now have a different perspective, plus I can always compare my stuff with everything else. Oh, and I won't call it buttloads of experience when it comes to the time I spent on writing.
 

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@SirDogeTheFirst So it wasn't just me after all, felt less lonely with that said, I suppose. Yeah, black pages of when we're only getting started to know the world of writing, and it sure as heck sucks a ton when you realise just how shite some website is/was. At least with SH there's actual people in it and not businessmen... mostly.

@Tyranomaster Sometimes when I felt like I got nothing going on with my writing, I switch over to gaming and modding said game, mainly Sekiro because that one is as close as you can get to a full-fledged custom anime-battle sequence you'll be able to get these days, and it doesn't help that it's having a new trend of retargeting animation a.k.a borrowing animations from other games, so Malenia's Waterfowl is going to be put at its rightful throne when modders are done with it.
I do would like to set up a Patreon or Ko-Fi account and such, so I can actually commission some editors and artist for my novel, since I just KNOW AI-generated Art is going to be restricted to certain laws and rules, and I'd like to have the budget to prevent my work from getting banished for having them.

@SailusGebel Sorry if that sounded condecending and brash, again, language is a major focus I'm learning about and I'm not that proud of it.
 

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@Tyranomaster Sometimes when I felt like I got nothing going on with my writing, I switch over to gaming and modding said game, mainly Sekiro because that one is as close as you can get to a full-fledged custom anime-battle sequence you'll be able to get these days, and it doesn't help that it's having a new trend of retargeting animation a.k.a borrowing animations from other games, so Malenia's Waterfowl is going to be put at its rightful throne when modders are done with it.
I do would like to set up a Patreon or Ko-Fi account and such, so I can actually commission some editors and artist for my novel, since I just KNOW AI-generated Art is going to be restricted to certain laws and rules, and I'd like to have the budget to prevent my work from getting banished for having them.
I'm personally not so sure that AI art will have laws around it. I think that it'll be considered (under US copywrite at least) to be transformative for most cases. Like, sure, I can't use Micky Mouse (a copywritten likeness), but I could use "Disney" style artwork. The issue right now for using AI images in a novel is internal consistency. You'll never quite get the same character design repeatedly. Which means any images won't have that internal consistency you'd want. That's why I want an actual artist to do the artwork. My covers currently are AI generated for my novel, and they'll continue to be so for the web novel.
 

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Reading certain novel titles motivates me to write out of spite because I can't accept the logical fallacy of said novels. Just like @Tyranomaster had said. The most unacceptable thing for me was the fact that in most (JP) LitRPG novels, some characters have 10k or 20k stats, whereas the typical Tom, Dick, and Harry got at most a few dozen or a hundred at most. According to my understanding, if someone has ten, twenty, or even a hundred times the strength of a person, then their physiology, as in their skeletomuscular system's density and whatnot should be completely different compared to human.

In the first place, a man with 10k STR ('npc' typically have 10-100) who can break a mountain with a single punch, shouldn't be able to survive with a simple meal that could fill the stomach of two or at most 10 people. The energy expenditure of doing mundane task, such as breathing or blinking, can barely be sustained by a nuclear reactor. I get it that with the presence of 'magic' in a high-fantasy setting, the author can shrug off most logic since it is the 'setting' of the world. After all, if someone were to nurture their body with magic into a state of which their flesh-and-blood can break mountain or terraform landscape, their cells should be more radioactive than radium. HOWEVER, I hate the fact that the authors do not even try maintaining the logical consistency of their world.

This anger and indignance that I possessed are slowly nurtured, until I found Chinese cultivation novels. Let's ignore the repeatable and the plots having more holes than swiss cheese. At the very least, chinese cultivation novels (most, not all), have logical consistence that is acceptable. If Cultivator A wants to have the power to move stars, then they have to cultivate into realm ZXC. Want to gain immortality or indestructibility? Simple, just reach the realm of 'Beyond Divinity' whose existence is but mere rumors as no one could confirm tis existence, so on and so forth.

Sorry for the rant. Anyway, spite is what motivates me to writing. As for the cost of writing, it is similiar to @SailusGebel , I have become even more critical than before. Here's a meme that shows how infallible I am in debating because I read, write and by extension, research a lot for my writings:
 

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Reading certain novel titles motivates me to write out of spite because I can't accept the logical fallacy of said novels. Just like @Tyranomaster had said. The most unacceptable thing for me was the fact that in most (JP) LitRPG novels, some characters have 10k or 20k stats, whereas the typical Tom, Dick, and Harry got at most a few dozen or a hundred at most. According to my understanding, if someone has ten, twenty, or even a hundred times the strength of a person, then their physiology, as in their skeletomuscular system's density and whatnot should be completely different compared to human.

In the first place, a man with 10k STR ('npc' typically have 10-100) who can break a mountain with a single punch, shouldn't be able to survive with a simple meal that could fill the stomach of two or at most 10 people. The energy expenditure of doing mundane task, such as breathing or blinking, can barely be sustained by a nuclear reactor. I get it that with the presence of 'magic' in a high-fantasy setting, the author can shrug off most logic since it is the 'setting' of the world. After all, if someone were to nurture their body with magic into a state of which their flesh-and-blood can break mountain or terraform landscape, their cells should be more radioactive than radium. HOWEVER, I hate the fact that the authors do not even try maintaining the logical consistency of their world.

This anger and indignance that I possessed are slowly nurtured, until I found Chinese cultivation novels. Let's ignore the repeatable and the plots having more holes than swiss cheese. At the very least, chinese cultivation novels (most, not all), have logical consistence that is acceptable. If Cultivator A wants to have the power to move stars, then they have to cultivate into realm ZXC. Want to gain immortality or indestructibility? Simple, just reach the realm of 'Beyond Divinity' whose existence is but mere rumors as no one could confirm tis existence, so on and so forth.

Sorry for the rant. Anyway, spite is what motivates me to writing. As for the cost of writing, it is similiar to @SailusGebel , I have become even more critical than before. Here's a meme that shows how infallible I am in debating because I read, write and by extension, research a lot for my writings:
"My source is that i made it the fuck up."
"Perhaps I am cringe, but that makes me free!"
 

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I started writing at first because I just wanted to have fun in these duels and... I guess I just felt drawn to it and the desire to create stories. Then I started delving more into it to develop unique skills for a different ambition I once had within entertainment. As I kept working on it and grew disillusioned with the other field, I tapped into the love I feel for storytelling. At heart, I've always just been someone drawn to storytelling.

I started to think about costs, and I was initially going to say it lead to my self-esteem issues, perfectionism, imposter syndrome, and all sorts of frustration I've felt in the past. Writing has always been the thing that brings it to the forefront. I also think about sometimes how I sink so much time into this above all else, when I could be doing other things if I truly wanted to.

But, honestly, that isn't the fault of writing.

I would've gone through those issues and many other things no matter what path I picked. It's all just a part of who I am. So, the aftereffect for me is that it gave me a better appreciation of the role writing plays in my life. It provides me beauty, direction, and a sense of purpose in what I'd otherwise view as a meaningless existence.
 

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I said this before, but the first stories I ever wrote were creepy pastas. After reading stuff online, I decided to make my own poorly written isekai. Oddly, when I was worse at writing, the stories were more fun to write the majority of the time. Writing is still fun, but the growth I experienced at the beginning made it more fun. I still have a ton of room for growth, but the problems of my writing become less and less clear overtime. There are still clear issues, but the fixes aren't as obvious. I try to dive further into prose, structure, sentences, etc. Often, these things just distract me from actually making the story.
 
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