Shoutout Swap

SouthernMaiden · Tuesday at 3:48 AM

Why don't authors do shoutout swaps here?

They're the #1 way of promotion on RR. Any particular reason?

ErikTyrson · Tuesday at 3:53 AM

Not sure...

GwynLordofTinder · Tuesday at 3:58 AM

I actually just did a highly successful one, just gotta ask.

Tabula_Rasa · Tuesday at 4:00 AM

SouthernMaiden said:
Why don't authors do shoutout swaps here?

What's the precise step by step procedure of how that works.

Eldoria · Tuesday at 4:03 AM

No one is wrong about seeking honest and constructive feedback. But seeking feedback through a mutually beneficial exchange is problematic... and actually keeps you from honest feedback. Why?

Because you're turning feedback into a "transaction" that's simply about "profit." As a result, the person giving the feedback may be reluctant to give you honest feedback.

In a mutually beneficial transaction, both parties inherently want to please each other. This prevents someone from being honest. That's why review swaps often end up just complimenting each other.

If you want honest feedback, then make it a voluntary activity. People are more likely to be open and honest when it's voluntary because they don't feel obligated to "please" the other party. They're simply speaking their mind.

That's why the best feedback... comes from readers who are interested in your story, even if it's hard to come by.

Mutual reviews for web novel authors

Fellow authors, I’d like to propose a fair and constructive review exchange. Here’s the idea: We read each other’s first few chapters We leave a detailed and honest review We highlight both strengths and weaknesses Things we can focus on: Writing style and flow Atmosphere and emotional...

forum.scribblehub.com

Juia_Darkcrest · Tuesday at 4:04 AM

It is disingenuous to shout out to something you haven't read yourself. I am writing. I don't have much reading time.

I could shout out to @JayMark all day long, praising the cow gods godly steaks, but since I haven't had time to read anything he has wrote, that puts my own credibility in question.

GwynLordofTinder · Tuesday at 4:19 AM

Tabula_Rasa said:
What's the precise step by step procedure of how that works.

The way I did it was:
1. Find a story I was envious was on Trending,
2. realize it shared elements with mine and was well written.
3. DM the author (hi @SukiSays)
4. We each wrote a short blurb and put links to each others stories in the next chapters using the news heading.
5. Also did a reveiw swap, but only because we actually liked each others work. I agree with @Juia_Darkcrest that its disingenuious otherwise, and not useful here since it isn't a driver of visibility like on RR.
6. Profit: the next day we were #1 and #2 on the site sorting by activity.

SouthernMaiden · Tuesday at 4:22 AM

GwynLordofTinder said:
The way I did it was:
1. Find a story I was envious was on Trending,
2. realize it shared elements with mine and was well written.
3. DM the author (hi @SukiSays)
4. We each wrote a short blurb and put links to each others stories in the next chapters using the news heading.
5. Also did a reveiw swap, but only because we actually liked each others work. I agree with @Juia_Darkcrest that its disingenuious otherwise, and not useful here since it isn't a driver of visibility like on RR.
6. Profit: the next day we were #1 and #2 on the site sorting by activity.

You make it sound like it is a good driver of visibility!

LeilaniOtter · Tuesday at 4:22 AM

Since we're on the subject, this is what I'm reading lately. I really love it; all the humor of the great Douglas Adams, and the visceral horror and fantasy of Neil Gaiman. It's wonderful! It should be a Top Trending here, I don't know why it's not.

All respect to @goldenphonix

The Nightmare Weaver

[Currently retouching earliest chapters to fit the updated narrative. Done: 1-10. Will keep updating this.] “What if every nightmare you've ever had was a manufactured product?” Zev McTerror has always been the quiet type—small, awkwardly polite, and terrible at saying no. It was only natural...

www.scribblehub.com

GwynLordofTinder · Tuesday at 4:24 AM

SouthernMaiden said:
You make it sound like it is a good driver of visibility!

Oh the shoutout absolutely was! I meant the review swap, while huge for my morale, wasn't important for visibility.

Tabula_Rasa · Tuesday at 4:26 AM

GwynLordofTinder said:
DM the author

What if the person you reached out to thought your book is hot garbage?

Juia_Darkcrest · Tuesday at 4:27 AM

Tabula_Rasa said:
What if the person you reached out to thought your book is hot garbage?

there is the kicker.

lol

Author_Riceball · Tuesday at 4:38 AM

Tabula_Rasa said:
What if the person you reached out to thought your book is hot garbage?

They wouldn’t publicly admit it.

Tabula_Rasa · Tuesday at 4:39 AM

Author_Riceball said:
They wouldn’t publicly admit it.

What will they say?

Author_Riceball · Tuesday at 4:40 AM

Tabula_Rasa said:
What will they say?

They’d just lie. And i would lie too for the views that would come from the partnership

GwynLordofTinder · Tuesday at 4:45 AM

To answer all of you: always a risk! Most of the people that reach out to me on RR for shoutouts are.... very nice. In those cases, you usually just ignore them. That's really the worst case scenario, no-one's gonna chase your ass down because you asked.

Can you tell I support making this part of the culture here? Unlike review swaps, there's really no deceptive downside, just helping visibility for your genre.

SouthernMaiden · Tuesday at 4:46 AM

I've learned that there's no good reason not to do it. If any of ya'll write somewhat smutty stories, or stuff with monster girls and genderswap shoot me a message. Id do a shoutout swap for the chapter I publish saturday

My story: https://www.scribblehub.com/series/1973633/stranded-on-the-southern-continent/

Sylver · Tuesday at 5:15 AM

SouthernMaiden said:
If any of ya'll write somewhat smutty stories, or stuff with monster girls shoot me a message.

Hiya

Monster Girls and Smut are kinda my thing. How can I help you?

SouthernMaiden · Tuesday at 5:28 AM

Sylver said:
Hiya Monster Girls and Smut are kinda my thing. How can I help you?

Your story is awesome! But I should have specified that I'm going to look for genderswap tagged stuff. I *think* thats what my readers like

My story is about being a monster girl and fucking men(among other things), yours is about being guy and fucking monster girls (among other things). Both good, but different

Sylver · Tuesday at 8:06 AM

SouthernMaiden said:
My story is about being a monster girl and fucking men(among other things), yours is about being guy and fucking monster girls (among other things). Both good, but different

My story is not about being a guy

but I get what you mean haha. Noted!

SouthernMaiden said:
Your story is awesome!

Aw thank you!

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