Question.

[Nekroz]

If I give a man a priceless gold coin that could sell for millions and he calls it worthless, of what value is it to him?

 

[georgelee5786]

To him, subjectively, it is valueless
Objectively, however, it is worth much

 

[Nekroz]

To him, subjectively, it is valueless
Objectively, however, it is worth much

Has that man then lost an opportunity? Even if the coin was presented to him time and time again until the day of his death? And every time he calls it worthless?

 

[miyoga]

There are so many variable to this question that it's basically no different from a personality quiz. If you make the offer each day, there's a new set of variables that will dictate the choice. Further, because circumstances are constantly in flux, the coin could be offered multiple times in the same day and the decision may be different.

I get that you're going hard on the morals and beliefs stuff and that your ultimate hidden message is probably "God will take care of all our needs", but this is also extremely presumptuous on your part that people have no beliefs/morals (but here, we do have smut and occasionally fluff). However, with this scenario, what is going on with the man at the particular time he is being offered the coin? What if he already has a similar coin? There's really no way to answer the question because there's no real question being asked.

 

[CarburetorThompson]

It is worth millions to him, he’s just a dumbass

 

[Nekroz]

There are so many variable to this question that it's basically no different from a personality quiz. If you make the offer each day, there's a new set of variables that will dictate the choice. Further, because circumstances are constantly in flux, the coin could be offered multiple times in the same day and the decision may be different.

I get that you're going hard on the morals and beliefs stuff and that your ultimate hidden message is probably "God will take care of all our needs", but this is also extremely presumptuous on your part that people have no beliefs/morals (but here, we do have smut and occasionally fluff). However, with this scenario, what is going on with the man at the particular time he is being offered the coin? What if he already has a similar coin? There's really no way to answer the question because there's no real question being asked.

Don't be ridiculous. I assume most of the people here have morals, it's not like not believing in God makes you a monster.

And no my message wasn't that God will take care of all our needs.

It was going to be that the coin is christ. All you need to do to have the million is take the coin. You don't need to actually use it, you just need to have it.

I'm not telling anybody to change what they do or how they live. It's not my place to do that. I'm just trying to preach the good news, which is; all that is required to aquire eternal life is believing on Jesus. If you want to continue what your doing already doing after that I can't stop you.

 

[Mellohwa]

If I give a man a priceless gold coin that could sell for millions and he calls it worthless, of what value is it to him?

He doesn't value millions, he may have billions—trillions even—in his possession.

 

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[miyoga]

I'm not telling anybody to change what they do or how they live.

Aren't you, though? This is at least the 3rd thread about the same exact thing.

I'm just trying to preach the good news, which is; all that is required to aquire eternal life is believing on Jesus.

As did Columbus, and the Conquistadors, the Puritans, the Inquisitors, the Crusaders, the more militant theocrats, the various segments of the various Christian churches... Point here that I'm making is that you're assuming that anyone who doesn't follow your prescribed flavor of religious beliefs is automatically wrong and needs to change. You can deny that all you want, but each post you make goes to the contrary of that.

Tell me, can you correctly identify every single person's personal beliefs, other than your own? To make it easier, let's limit it to this specific thread, and you'd be lucky to get 2 of them right. So, please, stop with the proselytizing and preaching or leave this forum because your chosen topics really aren't suitable or desired for public debate here.

 

[Nekroz]

He doesn't value millions, he may have billions—trillions even—in his possession.

No. He is a poor farmer.

 

[georgelee5786]

Has that man then lost an opportunity? Even if the coin was presented to him time and time again until the day of his death? And every time he calls it worthless?

He has lost an opportunity. The coin could've lifted up out of poverty, had he accepted it and sold it

 

[RepresentingCaution]

It all depends on the situation. If he is dying of thirst and nobody nearby is willing or able to exchange water for that coin, then it is indeed worthless.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

If I give a man a priceless gold coin that could sell for millions and he calls it worthless, of what value is it to him?

Could. Potentially. Do you have an actual buyer? No. The coin is worthless. Why? Because we have no other information.

Are you and this man the only people on the planet? Are you on an island with no fresh water or food? Does he have trillions? Are we talking millions in Argentine script?

You question is meaningless and without context, so we must go with what is presented. The man finds it worthless. It is worthless. You don't. That's your problem. Your values are not the man's.

Has that man then lost an opportunity? Even if the coin was presented to him time and time again until the day of his death? And every time he calls it worthless?

No. You have not given us any context. Even then. Even then.

In fact you have wasted his time and yours, so technically YOU have lost opportunities.

 

[Nekroz]

Could. Potentially. Do you have an actual buyer? No. The coin is worthless. Why? Because we have no other information.

Are you and this man the only people on the planet? Are you on an island with no fresh water or food? Does he have trillions? Are we talking millions in Argentine script?

You question is meaningless and without context, so we must go with what is presented. The man finds it worthless. It is worthless. You don't. That's your problem. Your values are not the man's.

Context: the coin is objectively worth millions. There are several buyers, and the coin is worth millions in the local currency. You are on an island nation with a population in the hundred thousands. And the man is a farmer who makes a decent living; not rich.