Perception is strange

[Gryphon]

So, you know about the whole "If someone were to move at super speed, then everyone would then move in slow motion so they'd be able to perceive the world around them." Essentially, the faster you move, the more perception you need, and the slower time moves for you.

A fun fact I heard from the YouTube channel, Casual Geographic, is that the Peregrine Falcon has enhanced perception since their whole hunting strategy is dive bombing at 100 miles an hour. They need the heightened perception to steer themselves. That means, on a normal day, everything around them moves in slow motion. Time is slow to them. But it really isn't slow motion, is it? At least not to them. Our slow motion is their natural clock.

That then led me to this thought. Is our perception of reality ACTUALLY reality. We measure time by 60 seconds for every minute and 60 minutes for every hour. If our sense of perception changed by even a small amount, there would no longer be 60 seconds in a minute anymore. Everything in the world would move differently; we either wouldn't be able to completely distinguish our world accurately, or we'd be aware of every detail as it more slowly passes our senses by. How would we then measure time?

Is our sense of perception even the accurate one? Is our view of time, how fast and slow things move and our ability to recognize them, even truly reality. Is the "true time" so slow that each second that passes by for us is actually years in the cosmic scale, and we only recognize a second as a second because of our lack of accurate perception? Is "true time" so fast that the birth and death of the universe happened all in the same second but our sense of perception is so great that we can perceive all the universe had to offer us in that brief second? Does that mean that the universe is already doomed and we're too aware of our surroundings to realize our cosmic futility, or do we lack so much awareness that we fail to recognize that we truly have enough time in the universe to fix all of our current predicaments?

I know this my sound weird, and no, I'm not under the influence of anything. I've just been thinking about this for some time and wanted to share it somewhere, otherwise I'd be thinking about this concept for longer than what would probably be healthy. So...yeah.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

No.

We all experience time at the same rate and in the same frame. We REMEMBER things at different rates.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

Is our perception of time consistently the same, no. Sometimes it's faster or slower.
I don't know much about the falcon, but i doubt everything else is moving in slow motion for it most of the time, only when it needs to be.

 

[J_Chemist]

If you really want to experience time distortion or a change in your "perception of time", do planks.

1 minute does not feel like 1 minute.

 

[AYM]

By never being born, the beginning and the end would feel the same.

 

[seahorsepink1]

gravity can bend time btw

 

[Bartun]

I recall when I had to put down my beloved pet. He was too old and could barely walk. I waited until midnight to shoot him while he slept so he wouldn't suffer. That few hours before midnight were an eternity. Worst night of my life.

When I went on a date with my childhood sweetheart, the entire night went in the blink of an eye. I took her home after the sun had already risen. Best night of my life.

So yeah, our perception of time is subjective.

 

[GlassRose]

Well, the units we use to measure time wouldn't change, those are objective, they would just *feel* longer. And hell, our perception of time isn't consistent at all to begin with. Ya know the phrase 'time flies when you're having fun'? To the subjective viewer, it really does feel like the time passes quicker.

And no, of course we don't perceived objective reality. We just see whatever evolution determined was the most useful approximation given the limits of the hardware.

And there is no 'true time', time is neither slow nor fast when you remove the human element, it just is.

While existential crisis can be fun, they also generally aren't useful, so you may as well move on.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

Time is slow to them. But it really isn't slow motion, is it?

Christ...
You ever had an adrenalin surge? When your flight ot fight kicks in? Thinking back, everything is moving slowly, right?
No.
When Adrenalin kicks in, your body REMEMBERS more. So when you try to remember what happened, you have to process more information than normal and it SEEMS like time was going slow. Its an illusion.

How would we then measure time?

Time doesn't exist. Or rather, you can't prove it exists. What we have is RATE OF CHANGE.

Is our sense of perception even the accurate one?

Sure. Why not?

Is our view of time, how fast and slow things move and our ability to recognize them, even truly reality. Is the "true time" so slow that each second that passes by for us is actually years in the cosmic scale, and we only recognize a second as a second because of our lack of accurate perception?

No. The Planck moment is set in stone. There is no shorter unit of time. Infinities don't exist.

Is "true time" so fast that the birth and death of the universe happened all in the same second but our sense of perception is so great that we can perceive all the universe had to offer us in that brief second?

No.

Does that mean that the universe is already doomed and we're too aware of our surroundings to realize our cosmic futility, or do we lack so much awareness that we fail to recognize that we truly have enough time in the universe to fix all of our current predicaments?

No.

I know this my sound weird, and no, I'm not under the influence of anything. I've just been thinking about this for some time and wanted to share it somewhere, otherwise I'd be thinking about this concept for longer than what would probably be healthy. So...yeah.

Its because you believe in infinity. There is no infinity in the real world. You can't divide by infinity. You can't have infinite anything. Therefore, the Planck moment is the floor. You can't go any less than the planck distance, and time cannot pass any slower than the Planck moment. With those absolutes, your questions are based on faulty BS.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

How do you know we all experience time at the same rate? Some people speak faster than others.

Seconds are a measurement of time, not a perception of it. It could be said we experience and perceive a second differently from someone else.

 

[Hans.Trondheim]

The concept of time disappears once you lose the basis on which to measure it (like aging, and 'moving' things).

How do you know we all experience time at the same rate? Some people speak faster than others.

I sometimes drive like I'm running from the police. And I sometimes drive like I'm on a parade.

But my bones are getting rickety at a steady rate.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

The concept of time disappears once you lose the basis on which to measure it (like aging, and 'moving' things).

Things like dementia.

We all measure time the same. I find people perceive time differently from each other as well. Some people do have faster reflexes than others.

Men have faster reflexes than women on average.

 

[Hans.Trondheim]

Things like dementia.

We all measure time the same. I find people perceive time differently from each other as well. Some people do have faster reflexes than others.

Men have faster reflexes than women on average.

Aye. Perception varies for each person, same as the planets, based on its position in space.

Like how a star that has been gone for millions of years can still be seen on Earth due to distance and the travel speed of light.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Science says dumb people perceive time passes faster.

 

[Hans.Trondheim]

Science says dumb people perceive time passes faster.

Why is it so?

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Why is it so?

Brain processing speed.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

So, you know about the whole "If someone were to move at super speed, then everyone would then move in slow motion so they'd be able to perceive the world around them." Essentially, the faster you move, the more perception you need, and the slower time moves for you.

A fun fact I heard from the YouTube channel, Casual Geographic, is that the Peregrine Falcon has enhanced perception since their whole hunting strategy is dive bombing at 100 miles an hour. They need the heightened perception to steer themselves. That means, on a normal day, everything around them moves in slow motion. Time is slow to them. But it really isn't slow motion, is it? At least not to them. Our slow motion is their natural clock.

That then led me to this thought. Is our perception of reality ACTUALLY reality. We measure time by 60 seconds for every minute and 60 minutes for every hour. If our sense of perception changed by even a small amount, there would no longer be 60 seconds in a minute anymore. Everything in the world would move differently; we either wouldn't be able to completely distinguish our world accurately, or we'd be aware of every detail as it more slowly passes our senses by. How would we then measure time?

Is our sense of perception even the accurate one? Is our view of time, how fast and slow things move and our ability to recognize them, even truly reality. Is the "true time" so slow that each second that passes by for us is actually years in the cosmic scale, and we only recognize a second as a second because of our lack of accurate perception? Is "true time" so fast that the birth and death of the universe happened all in the same second but our sense of perception is so great that we can perceive all the universe had to offer us in that brief second? Does that mean that the universe is already doomed and we're too aware of our surroundings to realize our cosmic futility, or do we lack so much awareness that we fail to recognize that we truly have enough time in the universe to fix all of our current predicaments?

I know this my sound weird, and no, I'm not under the influence of anything. I've just been thinking about this for some time and wanted to share it somewhere, otherwise I'd be thinking about this concept for longer than what would probably be healthy. So...yeah.

I think you mean perspective, not perception.

 

[Gryphon]

Christ...
You ever had an adrenalin surge? When your flight ot fight kicks in? Thinking back, everything is moving slowly, right?
No.
When Adrenalin kicks in, your body REMEMBERS more. So when you try to remember what happened, you have to process more information than normal and it SEEMS like time was going slow. Its an illusion.

I mean, that's kind of my point though. Your body remembers time moving slower because of your adrenaline spiking. Now apply that to a much grander scale. Time is easily distorted, and who's to say we're not already dead, but because of where we are right now, and our bodies sense of perception and its inability to remember beyond the point of its sense of the current present, we end up viewing, what cosmologically would be considered a second, as a year, or vice versa.

Time doesn't exist. Or rather, you can't prove it exists. What we have is RATE OF CHANGE.

That's still kind of my point. We measure time by measuring the rate at which things change. Our sense of perception means that things change at a relatively steady rate, though with some exceptions of course. But what if our sense of perception, our observation of the rate at which things change, is faulty and not based in cosmic reality. Sure, our body remembers things through its senses, but its because of that, that we have the concept of time at all, which leads to us having the bias that our time is the correct time, which couldn't be further from the case cause time is a social construct based on our unique observation.

Its because you believe in infinity. There is no infinity in the real world. You can't divide by infinity. You can't have infinite anything. Therefore, the Planck moment is the floor. You can't go any less than the planck distance, and time cannot pass any slower than the Planck moment. With those absolutes, your questions are based on faulty BS.

Keep in mind, I don't actually believe in any of the stuff I typed up there. It's just a thought experiment I cooked up for a few days after thinking about how we view ourselves in the universe and our inherent biases of being alive here at this moment. I do this relatively often, though I don't often post them, and rarely do I actually believe them to be true. It's just neat.

I think you mean perspective, not perception.

No, perception is the right word.
Perception: our awareness of our reality through our senses
Essentially, our sense of perception, our awareness, in other words, being faulty and through that leads us to being unaware of the true state of the universe and our place in it.

Seconds are a measurement of time, not a perception of it. It could be said we experience and perceive a second differently from someone else.

But our perception allows us to measure time as a second. As for the second thing, that reminds me of a video, I think it was V-Sauce, where he was like "Does everyone's red look the same?" Can't ever really know cause we can never see the other person's viewpoint.

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

I mean, that's kind of my point though. Your body remembers time moving slower because of your adrenaline spiking. Now apply that to a much grander scale. Time is easily distorted, and who's to say we're not already dead, but because of where we are right now, and our bodies sense of perception and its inability to remember beyond the point of its sense of the current present, we end up viewing, what cosmologically would be considered a second, as a year, or vice versa.

That's still kind of my point. We measure time by measuring the rate at which things change. Our sense of perception means that things change at a relatively steady rate, though with some exceptions of course. But what if our sense of perception, our observation of the rate at which things change, is faulty and not based in cosmic reality. Sure, our body remembers things through its senses, but its because of that, that we have the concept of time at all, which leads to us having the bias that our time is the correct time, which couldn't be further from the case cause time is a social construct based on our unique observation.

Keep in mind, I don't actually believe in any of the stuff I typed up there. It's just a thought experiment I cooked up for a few days after thinking about how we view ourselves in the universe and our inherent biases of being alive here at this moment. I do this relatively often, though I don't often post them, and rarely do I actually believe them to be true. It's just neat.

No, perception is the right word.
Perception: our awareness of our reality through our senses
Essentially, our sense of perception, our awareness, in other words, being faulty and through that leads us to being unaware of the true state of the universe and our place in it.

You make a lot of assumptions here ... There is a reason that metaphysics are deader than dead.

 

[Gryphon]

You make a lot of assumptions here ... There is a reason that metaphysics are deader than dead.

Oh yeah, I'm more than aware, but they are interesting to think over. Not really to believe or to use as an ideology, but because its fun to think in the abstract.