Overstimation or just sheer dumbness?

FieryLou

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Binging through thousands of novels, I noticed a very common pattern. Authors tend to overestimate themselves.

"Read until chapter blah blah, from there it is very unique."

"Epic battles and unique enemies."

"Give the first 50 chapters a chance, I guarantee you will love it."

Bla bla bla.

The idea of telling readers what to expect isn't even bad, but many authors just overhype themselves, raising the reader's expectations and often failing to fulfill them.

Now I'm asking myself, where does this overstimation comes from?
 

Tempokai

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They're writing it because they want to persuade those who are extremely bored or those with no taste to keep on consuming.
This, but make it literary. Some will take the bait and will read it, for they have all the time but not the wisdom to skip it.
 

Naash

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Binging through thousands of novels, I noticed a very common pattern. Authors tend to overestimate themselves.

"Read until chapter blah blah, from there it is very unique."
If I have to wait for X chapters before I get something I can enjoy, that's a straight no. It certainly means that you failed to deliver an impactful story at the start bruh.
"Epic battles and unique enemies."
Very broad term which serves nothing. It always ends up with the same power-scaling with gods, superior entities, or things that shake the heavens and earth, break the sky and bla bla bla...

Why would someone use this in a bio or synopsis ??? TwT

I think some of it is marketing. Most of it is likely the feedback they have received and let get to their heads.
Basically this.
 

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Binging through thousands of novels, I noticed a very common pattern. Authors tend to overestimate themselves.

"Read until chapter blah blah, from there it is very unique."

"Epic battles and unique enemies."

"Give the first 50 chapters a chance, I guarantee you will love it."

Bla bla bla.

The idea of telling readers what to expect isn't even bad, but many authors just overhype themselves, raising the reader's expectations and often failing to fulfill them.

Now I'm asking myself, where does this overstimation comes from?
Having written a few things where my own stuff picks up a few chapters into the story, I've sort of come to realize that looking at my work and noticing the start is slow and sloggy usually means I have a rewrite on my hands.

I'm not great at putting my best foot forward before momentum picks things up. (that's when the creative juices really start flowing), and most of the time, I've got to go back and axe the first chapter or two once I'm well into a book. That way, I already have a better idea of what I want to achieve and how to do it.

Only now am I starting to learn how to actually 'drop in' with the ball rolling, as it were, and avoid infodumps, boring exposition, or monologing.

That's why writing is so fun, constantly learning and getting better, plus, getting to see how far you've come with physical examples of where you were and where you are now. :blob_popcorn:
 
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Also no clue who made up the idea that stories need to start boring and pick up later. You still need to start with something interesting to gain readers. LOTR starts off interesting. Slow build does not mean boring.
 
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Valmond

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The time someone says read 50 chapters or whatever for it to get good.

That’s when you know it is bad. And I won’t expect it to be good, but maybe passable.

Nothing should take 50+ chapters to get actually started. That is pretty absurd.

That’s like saying Yu-gi-oh GX gets good, you just have to watch like 2/3 of it. I ain’t joking, that happened.

Granted, the Supreme King Arc to the end was extremely good. Problem is, it took way too long for anything to get good.

So, it remains bad.

Anyway, the way I tend to do things personally. Is that the conflict typically starts in the problem. It is pretty much what you’d say is the last stretch.

Though, that last stretch is insanely long. What happens though, is that as it goes along. You are made aware on what led up to it, and the key details.

Book 1

Follows the main’s awakening. By the time they arrive on the scene. Things have gone to hell, and have approached the last stretch before everything is lost.

The timeline is about 30 days give or take.

Book 7

It begins at the point the main is about to escape from a maximum security prison. The story itself, is the last stretch. As it is a race against time, since the Azure Night is close.

The past shows what eventually led to the main’s imprisonment, and just before the finale. The past and present connects for the final confrontation.

I’ve pretty much kept these sort of patterns for the entirety of the time.

Not saying that it has to be done this way. Just saying, choosing the starting point is pretty important. Things cannot drag for long.

Take Book 1 again.

Chapter 1:

—> Shows the kingdom’s fall, and by the end announces the main’s coming arrival. The main antagonist was introduced in this section.

—> Chapter 1 holds much relevance later on, such as the start.

Chapter 2:

—> Mains arrival and you get a brief look at them.

Chapter 3

—> You not only learn more about the story, but you are grabbed by something else. A moment where you see the main’s true nature.

Chapter 4:

—> First main story encounter between the main and the main antagonist. You learn more about both of them

———-

Note, all the while, these chapters are building up for something large soon.

Chapter 5:

—> The main’s seal comes down temporarily, and you see them unchained for just a moment. They then choose to reseal their own memories. And this really sets the ground for the story.

Chapters 1 - 5 were used as the grabbing section. Roughly 19k/20k words. 14 parts.

Each chapter provided a pull that would urge readers to look further. And when they finally get to the fifth chapter, that is the make or break point.
 
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