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Katakara123

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Hey guys, as you can see, I am trying to make my own novel of my favorite genres but then I suddenly faced a huge problem, I don't have enough knowledge about all the different races and species in fantasy worlds which I needed desperately. I have been looking for some lists in the internet but most of it only contains the commonly used ones and left out the other rarely used races. can anyone tell me where I can find lists that have almost all races and species ever known? example: elves, dragons, dwarves, goblins, kobolds, etc.

thank you in advance.
 

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There isn't, D&D is probably your best bet, as it is the most general as far as fantasy goes. They have a lot of already developed lore if you want inspiration.
 

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You can look up the monster girl encyclopedia. If you exclude all the stuff about intercourse, r-18 stuff, and so on, it's a decent place to look for different races. It's not overly descriptive nor does it contain a lot of details, but it's better than nothing.
Edit. Though there are only female versions of monsters, you can add the male versions on your own.
 

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I think it would be best for you to figure out the differences between monsters and why they are included in stories. Rather than creating a buffet and slapping them into a novel.

Monsters are a plot tool.

For example, in LitRPG monsters are used to make a plot move forward and accelerate character progression.

It's a good idea to ask yourself why you feel the need to include monsters. Are they an obstacle to overcome? Do they make the character a better person? Are they there for flavor? Or are they integral characters on their own, with backstories, feelings, and dreams?


If so it becomes easier to conceptualize what monsters you want if you know their purpose. if you want something dark and foreboding maybe a dragon or a skeleton/necromancer. If you want something cute, maybe a horned rabbit beast or an honest to god cat girl. If the character is fickle and vindicative, maybe make them a demon or kitsune. Do you want something wild and foreign? Consider a wolf-type monster or a fox.

Monsters give story flavor but it's better to consider what purpose the monster has to the story. In general, I tend to avoid monster stereotypes and ask myself what would make the most sense. It's why my dwarves are femboys and my elves are Ara Ara muscle girls.
 

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I think it would be best for you to figure out the differences between monsters and why they are included in stories. Rather than creating a buffet and slapping them into a novel.

Monsters are a plot tool.

For example, in LitRPG monsters are used to make a plot move forward and accelerate character progression.

It's a good idea to ask yourself why you feel the need to include monsters. Are they an obstacle to overcome? Do they make the character a better person? Are they there for flavor? Or are they integral characters on their own, with backstories, feelings, and dreams?


If so it becomes easier to conceptualize what monsters you want if you know their purpose. if you want something dark and foreboding maybe a dragon or a skeleton/necromancer. If you want something cute, maybe a horned rabbit beast or an honest to god cat girl. If the character is fickle and vindicative, maybe make them a demon or kitsune. Do you want something wild and foreign? Consider a wolf-type monster or a fox.

Monsters give story flavor but it's better to consider what purpose the monster has to the story. In general, I tend to avoid monster stereotypes and ask myself what would make the most sense. It's why my dwarves are femboys and my elves are Ara Ara muscle girls.

Yeah I definitely agree with this approach, empty stereotypes are bad and you shouldn't put them in just because you feel you need different races. However, you can still use some of the stereotypical traits and make something reasonably interesting from them.

The process I use for making races is that I usually use them to highlight racial and cultural dynamics. I like to put in some traits and then think about how this will affect them as a society.

Take your stereotypical Elvs, they live long lives and love their forests. So I added the trait of having a long pregnancy period of three years and their forest pretty much provides all the resources they need in an almost infinite supply. As a result, their culture is very different from human culture, which means they are also organized very differently as a society.

In my story due to the fact that they need 50 years to become an adult and the fact that pregnancy lasts so long they replenish their numbers extremely slowly. So in a fight, they prefer ranged tactics like using mounted archers and ambushes inside their forest to reduce casualties. (Which plays into the whole elven archer and forest dweller stereotype) I also added traits like they are good with healing magic because again they need to preserve their wounded.

Also as a society, the elves in my story do not use any form of monetary currency in their society, they just ask a tailor if they need clothes and the tailor makes some for them. If they need food they just pluck some fruits. If they need healing they just find a healer to ask for healing. The reason for this is that the forest gives them all the resources they would possibly need, there is no scarcity. When there is no scarcity then supply-demand economics cannot function which means money doesn't really serve a purpose in their society. This also by extension causes the Elves to dislike the humans and dwarves because they view them as greedy since they like to hoard resources for themselves. Which leads to cultural friction between the races.

Another trait I added was that the Elves can obtain the memories of the flesh of the things they eat. So if they eat too much meat they can go crazy from all those extra memories. So they are vegetarian and they also eat the flesh of their dead family to keep a "piece" of their loved ones within them. This of course is disgusting to humans and is taboo since humans can get diseases from cannibalism, which eventually manifested into a cultural taboo.

So if you take the traits a make sure that these traits impact the way the different races behave and think you can avoid the problem of having Elves just being long-eared humans. Alot of stories just basically have long eared humans(Elves), short humans (Dwarves), strong green humans (Orcs), etc...

I would suggest looking into your story and decide if you have any plans for these races. Decide how they are going to impact the story and then build their entire society and biological traits from the ground up to create a believable group of creatures that feels organic and realistic.
 

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Yeah I definitely agree with this approach, empty stereotypes are bad and you shouldn't put them in just because you feel you need different races. However, you can still use some of the stereotypical traits and make something reasonably interesting from them.

The process I use for making races is that I usually use them to highlight racial and cultural dynamics. I like to put in some traits and then think about how this will affect them as a society.

Take your stereotypical Elvs, they live long lives and love their forests. So I added the trait of having a long pregnancy period of three years and their forest pretty much provides all the resources they need in an almost infinite supply. As a result, their culture is very different from human culture, which means they are also organized very differently as a society.

In my story due to the fact that they need 50 years to become an adult and the fact that pregnancy lasts so long they replenish their numbers extremely slowly. So in a fight, they prefer ranged tactics like using mounted archers and ambushes inside their forest to reduce casualties. (Which plays into the whole elven archer and forest dweller stereotype) I also added traits like they are good with healing magic because again they need to preserve their wounded.

Also as a society, the elves in my story do not use any form of monetary currency in their society, they just ask a tailor if they need clothes and the tailor makes some for them. If they need food they just pluck some fruits. If they need healing they just find a healer to ask for healing. The reason for this is that the forest gives them all the resources they would possibly need, there is no scarcity. When there is no scarcity then supply-demand economics cannot function which means money doesn't really serve a purpose in their society. This also by extension causes the Elves to dislike the humans and dwarves because they view them as greedy since they like to hoard resources for themselves. Which leads to cultural friction between the races.

Another trait I added was that the Elves can obtain the memories of the flesh of the things they eat. So if they eat too much meat they can go crazy from all those extra memories. So they are vegetarian and they also eat the flesh of their dead family to keep a "piece" of their loved ones within them. This of course is disgusting to humans and is taboo since humans can get diseases from cannibalism, which eventually manifested into a cultural taboo.

So if you take the traits a make sure that these traits impact the way the different races behave and think you can avoid the problem of having Elves just being long-eared humans. Alot of stories just basically have long eared humans(Elves), short humans (Dwarves), strong green humans (Orcs), etc...

I would suggest looking into your story and decide if you have any plans for these races. Decide how they are going to impact the story and then build their entire society and biological traits from the ground up to create a believable group of creatures that feels organic and realistic.
I think the OP simply asked for a list of races to use them as a reference. Like, what is mermaids, almost everyone knows, but not everyone knows or thinks of nereids. They are kind of the same, but at the same time, they are not. Or, for example, lamias. There are Medusas, Echidnas, simple lamias, and some more species. They are not the same. There are a lot of fantasy species that are overshadowed and aren't used. For example, not so long ago, I never ever heard of Girtablilu. As I understood, OP is searching for something to look through, like a list or something, and search\use something more unique. Your advice and the one before you are good, but it's a step further.
 

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I think it would be best for you to figure out the differences between monsters and why they are included in stories. Rather than creating a buffet and slapping them into a novel.

Monsters are a plot tool.

For example, in LitRPG monsters are used to make a plot move forward and accelerate character progression.

It's a good idea to ask yourself why you feel the need to include monsters. Are they an obstacle to overcome? Do they make the character a better person? Are they there for flavor? Or are they integral characters on their own, with backstories, feelings, and dreams?


If so it becomes easier to conceptualize what monsters you want if you know their purpose. if you want something dark and foreboding maybe a dragon or a skeleton/necromancer. If you want something cute, maybe a horned rabbit beast or an honest to god cat girl. If the character is fickle and vindicative, maybe make them a demon or kitsune. Do you want something wild and foreign? Consider a wolf-type monster or a fox.

Monsters give story flavor but it's better to consider what purpose the monster has to the story. In general, I tend to avoid monster stereotypes and ask myself what would make the most sense. It's why my dwarves are femboys and my elves are Ara Ara muscle girls.
Well yeah, I actually get what you mean its just that what I plan to write involves the MC going on an adventure into the vast lands of the world that I am going to build so my knowledge about monsters is very limited and I wanted to include monsters that are not commonly seen. so the idea is that the MC would be going around the world encountering different types of races and species in different situations. But I do get what you mean though and I also think your right, its just that I wanted my world to be more adventurous I guess and not the typical LitRPG stories that I have read.
 

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if it's a story you want to write from your own inspiration or imagination, why do you need a list of races with detailed descriptions? what do you mean "enough knowledge"? Write the story you want to write and fluff out the races/species however you see fit. Make the elves cannibals and the dwarves addicted to racehorse betting. What does it matter?

The whole idea of needing "enough knowledge" and references for anything related to fantasy is ass-backward. It's supposed to be fantasy. Show a spark of imagination!

If you want to copy something you saw in a movie or a game or w/e and makes your own story around it, that's fine. go at it! If you want to write a story in the most generic medieval, elf-infested fantasy - go at it! More power to you.

But the literal need to look up the most generic, regurgitated ideas for what kobolds and hobgoblins are supposed to be... Why? Who's going to scold you for getting kobolds "wrong"? make your kobolds the spawn of a sexual relationship between dwarves and dragons and call them dragbolds if that fits your story.

Why does your novel need to go through the generic checklist of all the standard fantasy races?
 

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Yeah I definitely agree with this approach, empty stereotypes are bad and you shouldn't put them in just because you feel you need different races. However, you can still use some of the stereotypical traits and make something reasonably interesting from them.

The process I use for making races is that I usually use them to highlight racial and cultural dynamics. I like to put in some traits and then think about how this will affect them as a society.

Take your stereotypical Elvs, they live long lives and love their forests. So I added the trait of having a long pregnancy period of three years and their forest pretty much provides all the resources they need in an almost infinite supply. As a result, their culture is very different from human culture, which means they are also organized very differently as a society.

In my story due to the fact that they need 50 years to become an adult and the fact that pregnancy lasts so long they replenish their numbers extremely slowly. So in a fight, they prefer ranged tactics like using mounted archers and ambushes inside their forest to reduce casualties. (Which plays into the whole elven archer and forest dweller stereotype) I also added traits like they are good with healing magic because again they need to preserve their wounded.

Also as a society, the elves in my story do not use any form of monetary currency in their society, they just ask a tailor if they need clothes and the tailor makes some for them. If they need food they just pluck some fruits. If they need healing they just find a healer to ask for healing. The reason for this is that the forest gives them all the resources they would possibly need, there is no scarcity. When there is no scarcity then supply-demand economics cannot function which means money doesn't really serve a purpose in their society. This also by extension causes the Elves to dislike the humans and dwarves because they view them as greedy since they like to hoard resources for themselves. Which leads to cultural friction between the races.

Another trait I added was that the Elves can obtain the memories of the flesh of the things they eat. So if they eat too much meat they can go crazy from all those extra memories. So they are vegetarian and they also eat the flesh of their dead family to keep a "piece" of their loved ones within them. This of course is disgusting to humans and is taboo since humans can get diseases from cannibalism, which eventually manifested into a cultural taboo.

So if you take the traits a make sure that these traits impact the way the different races behave and think you can avoid the problem of having Elves just being long-eared humans. Alot of stories just basically have long eared humans(Elves), short humans (Dwarves), strong green humans (Orcs), etc...

I would suggest looking into your story and decide if you have any plans for these races. Decide how they are going to impact the story and then build their entire society and biological traits from the ground up to create a believable group of creatures that feels organic and realistic.
Thankyou so much! this is very helpful. with what you said, I actually realized I have neglected so much when writing my story. thanks!
I think the OP simply asked for a list of races to use them as a reference. Like, what is mermaids, almost everyone knows, but not everyone knows or thinks of nereids. They are kind of the same, but at the same time, they are not. Or, for example, lamias. There are Medusas, Echidnas, simple lamias, and some more species. They are not the same. There are a lot of fantasy species that are overshadowed and aren't used. For example, not so long ago, I never ever heard of Girtablilu. As I understood, OP is searching for something to look through, like a list or something, and search\use something more unique. Your advice and the one before you are good, but it's a step further.
Yes, my point exactly, but what they said was very helpful too its just that I'm looking for creatures to refer its because what I know is just too limited and the central idea of my story is with the MC traveling on an adventure around the vast and magical world so it would be normal for him encountering other species other than elves, dwarves, etc. But anyway what they said was very helpful too. like for example, I do know about mermaids but other than that, I know nothing more of creatures closer to mermaids and that problem would definitely become an obstacle and maybe I could also look for alternatives.
You can always create your own monsters or races too! :blob_melt:
Yes Thankyou <3 but its actually very hard to make a monster or a race from scratch HEHEHE
 
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Thankyou so much! this is very helpful. with what you said, I actually realized I have neglected so much when writing my story. thanks!

Yes, my point exactly, but what they said was very helpful too its just that I'm looking for creatures to refer its because what I know is just too limited and the central idea of my story is with the MC traveling on an adventure around the vast and magical world so it would be normal for him encountering other species other than elves, dwarves, etc. But anyway what they said was very helpful too. like for example, I do know about mermaids but other than that, I know nothing more of creatures closer to mermaids and that problem would definitely become an obstacle and maybe I could also look for alternatives.

Yes Thankyou <3 but its actually very hard to make a monster or a race from scratch HEHEHE
You should definitely check dnd(wiki I guess?) and monster girl encyclopedia, as stated before. Check big fandoms like Warhammer fantasy or something similar to gain some inspiration.
Also, look into games, especially strategies. Age of Wonders Shadow Magic had a lot of races, games like Heroes of Might and Magic 3-5. Games and fandom don't have systemized info, unlike dnd and monster girl encyclopedia, but you might stumble upon something interesting that will give you the spark of inspiration.
Oh, and try to look into mythologies, Japanese yokais, pagan demons and monsters, and so on can serve as race prototypes. It's a lot of research and work, so good luck with this.
 

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if it's a story you want to write from your own inspiration or imagination, why do you need a list of races with detailed descriptions? what do you mean "enough knowledge"? Write the story you want to write and fluff out the races/species however you see fit. Make the elves cannibals and the dwarves addicted to racehorse betting. What does it matter?

The whole idea of needing "enough knowledge" and references for anything related to fantasy is ass-backward. It's supposed to be fantasy. Show a spark of imagination!

If you want to copy something you saw in a movie or a game or w/e and makes your own story around it, that's fine. go at it! If you want to write a story in the most generic medieval, elf-infested fantasy - go at it! More power to you.

But the literal need to look up the most generic, regurgitated ideas for what kobolds and hobgoblins are supposed to be... Why? Who's going to scold you for getting kobolds "wrong"? make your kobolds the spawn of a sexual relationship between dwarves and dragons and call them dragbolds if that fits your story.

Why does your novel need to go through the generic checklist of all the standard fantasy races?

You should definitely check dnd(wiki I guess?) and monster girl encyclopedia, as stated before. Check big fandoms like Warhammer fantasy or something similar to gain some inspiration.
Also, look into games, especially strategies. Age of Wonders Shadow Magic had a lot of races, games like Heroes of Might and Magic 3-5. Games and fandom don't have systemized info, unlike dnd and monster girl encyclopedia, but you might stumble upon something interesting that will give you the spark of inspiration.
Oh, and try to look into mythologies, Japanese yokais, pagan demons and monsters, and so on can serve as race prototypes. It's a lot of research and work, so good luck with this.
Thankyou so much, what you said really helped me a lot!
 
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i usually just use wikipedia and google. scroll for myths and old religions of certain cultures. Then dive into that myth section on creatures and magical races more.
 

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These are helpful for all the reasons listed above. If you find yourself lacking knowledge about writing, TVTropes will cost you years of your life. :s_smile:

I tried to make a list of undead once. It ended up pretty bare bones.
 
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