Multiple country militaries isekai'd and trapped in another world

[WriterOfVeralis]

So I just started reading America In Another World and I had watched GATE a while back which got me thinking of a different idea.

So, both of them had a military or government body backing all of their operations. America In Another World having the whole country Isekai'd and GATE having a literal gate to another world where you can freely pass through whenever.

After this, I wondered firstly, what if it wasn't just one country's government and military but a bunch of different countries, secondly what if military members and weapons and machinery get isekai'd but the high ranking generals and presidents and such weren't brought along because since they technically haven't "fought" before.

My idea was to have a war in a fantasy world that threatens to destroy a whole world, with constant fighting and suffering but much more widescale than even WWI or WWII. Let's say that there are gods that control every different world and the god that controlled that world decided to gather the strongest weapons and fighters from a random world, which would be earth in this case. Unfortunately, after the warring continents have depleted most of the god's power and support, the god only managed to transport a small part of the armies (because we wouldn't want a few million soldiers running around if you know what I mean) of the various nations, seemingly at random (yes even the equipment and facilities) and basically stranded them in an unknown environment with no way back and no official leader.

The countries being China, Russia, and the U.S respectively.

The only way that they would be able to get back to their world is to defeat the warring nations and implement a permanent peace in the continent.

Also, as politics can't really be a thing without politicians, the militaries won't try to backstab each other because they are all allies at that point since all they want to do is return to earth, they have to work together. Politicians are the ones that are constantly causing aggression, soldiers just listen to their orders. Once there is a common enemy, they will most likely work together even if there is some suspicion.

I think it would be interesting from different viewpoints and implementing strategies and cultures from all 3 countries.

So, would anybody be interested if I wrote a story with this premise?

Also yes, I realize that bullets and fuel and power would be limited, but since a fantasy world usually has magic they will eventually be able to substitute these things.

 

[Cipiteca396]

If you write it, they will read.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

Pretty interesting concept, but if your wanting to be accurate about the actions and events of the nations you will have to do quite a bit of research, not only about the modern history of the countries, modern warfare, and societal trends.

Aside from that, I believe the category of this nation into other world is pretty niche, however people would probably be interested in it.

also China would probably expand really fricking fast, having a lot of people and a big army, so there will probably be a coalition of Americans, Russians and native worlders

 

[WriterOfVeralis]

Pretty interesting concept, but if your wanting to be accurate about the actions and events of the nations you will have to do quite a bit of research, not only about the modern history of the countries, modern warfare, and societal trends.

Aside from that, I believe the category of this nation into other world is pretty niche, however people would probably be interested in it.

also China would probably expand really fricking fast, having a lot of people and a big army, so there will probably be a coalition of Americans, Russians and native worlders

The main thing about this is that none of the countries are focused on expansionism, these aren’t politicians, they’re soldiers I don’t think they care about that sort of thing.
They all just want to go home, all three militaries have the same goal. China would have more soldiers, sure, but the maximum that these guys have together will barely pass a few thousand at most due to the faulty teleportation.

I want this to be a kind of “Earth humanity works together to save world” kind of thing

 

[Vnator]

The main thing about this is that none of the countries are focused on expansionism, these aren’t politicians, they’re soldiers I don’t think they care about that sort of thing.
They all just want to go home, all three militaries have the same goal. China would have more soldiers, sure, but the maximum that these guys have together will barely pass a few thousand at most due to the faulty teleportation.

I want this to be a kind of “Earth humanity works together to save world” kind of thing

Such a story sounds really nice. If you bring in those 3 countries normally, there's guaranteed to be some kind of friction. But if you distill it down to the pure human element, without selfish desires and stigmas attached to each of the nations' actions, then it would be a story of Earth and humanity banding together to help each other out, and that sounds like something everyone needs with the current state of the world and all that.

 

[WriterOfVeralis]

Such a story sounds really nice. If you bring in those 3 countries normally, there's guaranteed to be some kind of friction. But if you distill it down to the pure human element, without selfish desires and stigmas attached to each of the nations' actions, then it would be a story of Earth and humanity banding together to help each other out, and that sounds like something everyone needs with the current state of the world and all that.

Thanks! I’ll be honest, I wanted to show the humanity in everyone and not just what we see on the surface. I do admit I wanted to paint China in a better light since I have lived there for half my life ( yes the communist China) and want to show what humans could do if we go down to humanities core. To support one another and move forwards, without political agendas and whatnot.

 

[Sabruness]

Also, as politics can't really be a thing without politicians, the militaries won't try to backstab each other because they are all allies at that point since all they want to do is return to earth, they have to work together. Politicians are the ones that are constantly causing aggression, soldiers just listen to their orders. Once there is a common enemy, they will most likely work together even if there is some suspicion.

haha, you'd be surprised. You wouldnt believe the amount of politics, backstabbing and shenanigans that took place among the allied powers in the field in WW2. the amount of disputes between command structures and scheming over who would call the highest shots in certain theaters was, well, they could rival politicians in shittery. Hell, even within national command structures there were disputes, conflict and schemes.
You would have to go fairly low in the command structures to find more actual co-operation and positive behavior.

want to show what humans could do if we go down to humanities core. To support one another and move forwards, without political agendas and whatnot.

i commend your optimism but also question it. the core of humanity, i believe, is not benevolence and hope. It's much darker. the human being is most creative and efficient when it comes to destruction. even some of the greatest beneficial discoveries resulted from wartime

 

[WriterOfVeralis]

haha, you'd be surprised. You wouldnt believe the amount of politics, backstabbing and shenanigans that took place among the allied powers in the field in WW2. the amount of disputes between command structures and scheming over who would call the highest shots in certain theaters was, well, they could rival politicians in shittery. Hell, even within national command structures there were disputes, conflict and schemes.
You would have to go fairly low in the command structures to find more actual co-operation and positive behavior.


i commend your optimism but also question it. the core of humanity, i believe, is not benevolence and hope. It's much darker. the human being is most creative and efficient when it comes to destruction. even some of the greatest beneficial discoveries resulted from wartime

I’m trying to balance this by not including anyone of high rank but there has to be sargeants to at least to maintain order (main characters possibly).I would think that they would definitely bring destruction considering tanks, aircrafts, ships, and bombs among others were also transported. However I think anybody would try to stick to people, however different, that were from the same planet as you to fight and return to it. When I write this there will definitely end bad calls and harsh decisions but compared to medieval standards it wouldn’t be exactly brutal.

Also probable kingdom building and foreign country relationships

 

[CL]

Also yes, I realize that bullets and fuel and power would be limited, but since a fantasy world usually has magic they will eventually be able to substitute these things.

This is just an idea that popped in my head and I'll treat it as a suggestion for you. You could have the fantasy world treat some portion of these estranged nations with similar behavior that a fictional South Africa had with the stranded aliens in the movie "District 9".

 

[WriterOfVeralis]

This is just an idea that popped in my head and I'll treat it as a suggestion for you. You could have the fantasy world treat some portion of these estranged nations with similar behavior that a fictional South Africa had with the stranded aliens in the movie "District 9".

Actually, the basis to get home is quiet similar so thanks for that! Although I don’t think they will be as vulnerable as the aliens were. They are technically “aliens” to them, but they kind of have to stop all the conflict so that they can get the god that sent them here to send them back home

 

[Nhatduongg]

Good idea, if you write that, I’ll make sure to read, please link me when that time comes.

I’ve actually made a writing prompt about every country on Earth get summoned.

Writing Prompt - Japan Summons. No, wait. It’s the whole world!

So I guess some of you read Nihonkoku Shoukan. I personally enjoyed that LN. Then, I came to this site and found something like ‘American Summons’ (I actually found many series like ‘American Summons’). I’ve started writing recently, and I thought that maybe I could write something like...

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You can also write that, I’ll read.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Thanks! I’ll be honest, I wanted to show the humanity in everyone and not just what we see on the surface. I do admit I wanted to paint China in a better light since I have lived there for half my life ( yes the communist China) and want to show what humans could do if we go down to humanities core. To support one another and move forwards, without political agendas and whatnot.

Then you should exclude Russia.

 

[Biggest-Kusa-Out-There]

There is a very interesting, though incredibly biased, piece of fiction over at Royal Road where the Soviets and US find portals to another dimension around the world and they go in and fuck shit up. The setting is the cold war, with Nixon and Brezhnev being the leaders of each country, though it focuses more on the US side of things as the writer is a US citizen (I assume).
They go into the new world and try to exploit resources and shit, obviously.
Can't remember the name atm, though.

It's a fun idea, but if there's magic in this other world... i'd expect fire arms to be absolute shit. Like for example a .50 cal can blow someone's head of, but the magic people have enchanted gear that can whithstand tomahawks levels of punches or something.

Fire arms are incredibly primitive when it comes to warfare against magic, as a kevlar is something a dwarf could make in his sleep.

GATE is a prime example of this crime against humanity, which presents another world's militaristic advancements being absolutely primitive when considering magic is available to those who put in the effort like the little wizard girl.

You'd need to come up with a magic system before doing the weaponry/hierarchy research as that is readily available on the internet. Like I mentioned above, if a dwarf can make kevlar-level armor while blindfolded, I'd expect fullbody suits of armors that can stand even RPG's without sweating, since magic technology advances with the threats of the world. People would need to stand against a dragon that breathes fire at 3000 degrees celcius for example, contend with chimeras, hydras, terrasques, etc.

If you mean to write something like Avatar with tribal people using bows and spears, it could be interesting, but ultimately Avatar with more countries and stuff. If the objective is the portrayal of humanity or humanization of the soldiers (which is incredibly interesting), then they could go against aliens instead of 'people', so the threat is an unkown, uncaring, unreasonable thing they have to face together while the narrative could explore the bonding of humanity without unreasonable leaders and their greed through a soldier's perspective.

I'd read it!

 

[Cipiteca396]

GATE is a prime example of this crime against humanity

Tbf, GATE is an example of why the entire Fantasy genre is scuffed. Everyone is running around with swords and bows, slaying dragons with Medieval technology. Of course they'd be screwed if Modern soldiers showed up and attacked.

Modern weapons would completely overturn Medieval magic. Modern magic should be on par with Modern weapons. And Advanced magic should be on par with Sci-Fi.

 

[Tropic_Panda]

If from the begining you want to painted China in a better light, then just Isekai'd small part of China mil. For example, a joint task force (Army, Air Force, and Navy) which was conducting a joint exercise when they got transfered. That way, you will get full package of chain of command along with the weapon system.

Then show how they interact with local without any political agenda, help them achieved peace, assist them in other thing, etc.

I believed that soldier/marine/pilot/sailor, no matter where country they come from, would have humanism and kind side. So, without propaganda message (politic, bashing other country, racist, chauvinisme, etc), you would be able to paint China mil in good way using natural approach.

Some people outside from China may will trash your work as biased work, but who care. It's natural that someone want to write a good thing about mil from their country. Beside, China has enough reader and this world also has lot of open minded people.

While combine multiple Mil, especially from big country and each have their big gun, would make working together wholeheartily is a bit unatural. Who know if some people don't want go back to earth and try to become new overlord.

 

[Biggest-Kusa-Out-There]

Tbf, GATE is an example of why the entire Fantasy genre is scuffed. Everyone is running around with swords and bows, slaying dragons with Medieval technology. Of course they'd be screwed if Modern soldiers showed up and attacked.

Modern weapons would completely overturn Medieval magic. Modern magic should be on par with Modern weapons. And Advanced magic should be on par with Sci-Fi.

Medieval magic? No, that's a circlejerk for the army at play.
Magic would NOT be as portrayed in most fantasy isekai, because it comes from games and for the protagonist to shine. Magic is in essence applied sciences. Yes, it kills the fantasy of magic being all mystical, but it's the hard truth. Magic would find a different path with technology. An enchanted bow could shoot faster and stronger than an anti-tank sniper rifle (dunno if that's the actual name), because of how the string handles kinetic energy from elastic energy through the wood thing (lol). This does not exist on earth, so we optimized the shit out of gunpowder and explosives since our bows had a hard cap of energy delivery.
Hell, even a geomancer could cause magnetic fields that stop bullets if you go the extra step. A fire wizard may produce napalm-level of fires with a thought. You're massively downplaying magic here.
Magic is the biological parent of sci-fi mind powers. Change my mind.

 

[Cipiteca396]

Medieval magic? No, that's a circlejerk for the army at play.
Magic would NOT be as portrayed in most fantasy isekai, because it comes from games and for the protagonist to shine. Magic is in essence applied sciences. Yes, it kills the fantasy of magic being all mystical, but it's the hard truth. Magic would find a different path with technology. An enchanted bow could shoot faster and stronger than an anti-tank sniper rifle (dunno if that's the actual name), because of how the string handles kinetic energy from elastic energy through the wood thing (lol). This does not exist on earth, so we optimized the shit out of gunpowder and explosives since our bows had a hard cap of energy delivery.
Hell, even a geomancer could cause magnetic fields that stop bullets if you go the extra step. A fire wizard may produce napalm-level of fires with a thought. You're massively downplaying magic here.
Magic is the biological parent of sci-fi mind powers. Change my mind.

You missed the point. GATE is a deconstruction of the problems you are pointing out. The dragons have titanium laced scales. The locals with their toy swords and bows CAN'T harm them. The closest they can get is stealing wyvern eggs and taming those. It takes modern weaponry to hurt the real thing.

I'm not the one downplaying magic. The entire Fantasy genre is downplaying magic. If you have a string that can make bows go real shooty, then make a damn automatic crossbow that goes even shootier. Make clothes that stop cannonballs. Make rope that can restrain Hercules.

You have a geomancer that can stop a projectile moving at the speed of sound. So why can this guy who's immune to bullets be killed by a peasant with a rusty old sword? Because plot.
If your Napalm wizard can be killed by a stray shot from a normal, nonmagical bow, why wouldn't he die when shot with a machine gun?

If your dwarf can make kevlar in his sleep, why doesn't he make enough to supply the entire world? Maybe dwarves are hostile to the rest of the world? Why don't the dwarves take over the world with their Modern Technology? Why can they make Kevlar, but not sewers?!?

You are right that magic should be more. But you're also trying to make sticks equal to rifles. You can't have both. The only working excuse for why a fantasy world is medieval is because magic hasn't been fully fleshed out as a science. If it has, then you'd be working with Modern vs. Modern settings, with one being Modern Magic, and the other being Modern Science. Alternatively, you could have Sci-Fi level magic curb stomp Modern Science.

 

[Lloyd]

The main thing about this is that none of the countries are focused on expansionism, these aren’t politicians, they’re soldiers I don’t think they care about that sort of thing.
They all just want to go home, all three militaries have the same goal. China would have more soldiers, sure, but the maximum that these guys have together will barely pass a few thousand at most due to the faulty teleportation.

I want this to be a kind of “Earth humanity works together to save world” kind of thing

Lol china would definitely try to take over everyone else.

 

[WriterOfVeralis]

considering the fact that an immortal god just summoned them because he can’t interfere with the mortal world I think it makes sense to give them blessings if their weapons stopped working there.
I think that it wouldn’t exactly be a “curb stomp” because sure, it would be one sided in a large scale battlefield with J20’s, su57’s, and f35’s could probably destroy any ariel attackers and even ground force, and don’t even mention the tanks, bombers, artillery and others which would probably decimate forces using swords and spears and bows.
However, in close quarters there would probably be casualties considering medieval soldiers probably have more hand-to-hand combat experience although that could also be prevented with shotguns and smgs. If a Blackhawk was show with a ballista bolt then that thing is going straight down, if a mage managed to send a fireball then the soldiers would definitely still get hurt and some could even die from extreme burns.
Speaking of the dwarves, we know they are great at making things and inventing, but what if they have never thought of something like a gun and focused more on what they are used to and improving on it? If the dwarves haven’t become a fighting force and are practicing isolationism then that’s another explanation to why everything is so medieval. Dwarves wouldn’t have had to make Kevlar if there was nothing with that much penetration power in if they never needed it they would never create it.
I can’t actually say “politics” won’t be a thing, but not their “old world” politics since their new world would have all types of different countries.

Yes I am planning the story out now and will probably release chapter 1 this week. I thought just learning about one military was hard but now I’m learning about 3.
Also, if there was any romance in this at all would you guys kill me?

 

[WriterOfVeralis]

One more thing I wanted to ask you guys, if buildings around the military bases that were teleported were also transported, with the people inside, would that be okay, or is that a bit too far-fetched?