It took physicists 115 years to tame Maxwell’s Demon?

[Terragammaton]

I did not make the title. I got it from the article itself.

Well now, I wasn't aware I was so popular.

I came across an article and if I understood it correctly to some extent, then would this mean the demon has been exorcised, or should we say summoned?

How Maxwell’s Demon Continues to Startle Scientists​

Basically the article states they improvised by starting a very small experiment to prove the imaginary creature, and boy were they successful!
Localized usage of the demon's magic while still bound to our laws of physics.
How? From what I understand, they literally transformed information (non-physical NOT) to energy (physical). I mean the application of light-energy conversion isn't new, but now this experiment confirms we have finally touch something. A small step for civilization but finally a bigger leap to the unknown. Well, not exactly as we are promised superior fridges and computers ahead. There are also time crystals, but that is another topic altogether.

 

[SakeVision]

I just want to own and breed schrodinger cats, then sell them as rare breed on the market

 

[Terragammaton]

I just want to own and breed schrodinger cats, then sell them as rare breed on the market

They would be very hard to market because they would be quantum chimeras prone to dying once observed.

 

[SakeVision]

They would be very hard to market because they would be quantum chimeras prone to dying once observed.

but very easy to breed just put one in a room with a lot of mirrors and wait until the building explodes from the living and dead cats piled inside

 

[Terragammaton]

but very easy to breed just put one in a room with a lot of mirrors and wait until the building explodes from the living and dead cats piled inside

Does a cat die if it see its own moment of death? It becomes its own observer. Quite a paradox, assuming there is light for the mirror to reflect an image of a dead alive cat.

 

[SakeVision]

Does a cat die if it see its own moment of death? It becomes its own observer. Quite a paradox, assuming there is light for the mirror to reflect an image of a dead alive cat.

yes its like a minor big bang when in that instant countless cats are created, I assume house destroying explosion implosion would have happened the moment cat opened its eyes and looked in the mirror into its own reflection

 

[BenJepheneT]

ITT we make a new SCP entry

 

[Terragammaton]

yes its like a minor big bang when in that instant countless cats are created, I assume house destroying explosion implosion would have happened the moment cat opened its eyes and looked in the mirror into its own reflection

Not necessarily does it causate countless "small bangs" as one cat's explosion states two instances; so if you were to explode 2 cats, then four cats live and die simultaneously. Do their succeeding states (dead or surviving cats) attempt cat's paradox as well?

ITT we make a new SCP entry

What would be their class and threat level?

 

[SakeVision]

Not necessarily does it causate countless "small bangs" as one cat's explosion states two instances; so if you were to explode 2 cats, then four cats live and die simultaneously. Do their succeeding states (dead or surviving cats) attempt cat's paradox as well?

No, the moment cat looks into mirror, it creates two copies of itself, one alive the other one dead.
Then each of these copies, created instantly, looks in the mirrors and sees themselves and the original cat, created many more copies that are also created instantly, and instantly observe all the previous copies created before them...it's probably some mathematical formula in making....at any rate, in an instant countless, possibly infinite amount of cats is created.

It would therefore make sense that there isn't enough space inside the room with the mirrors the first cat was placed to contain infinite amount of cats. So the sheer amount of cats created in the instant the first cat opened its eyes and looked in the mirror would explode the house from the inside, and possibly more, I am frankly speaking not sure, which is what makes the breeding experiment so exciting.

 

[Terragammaton]

No, the moment cat looks into mirror, it creates two copies of itself, one alive the other one dead.
Then each of these copies, created instantly, looks in the mirrors and sees themselves and the original cat, created many more copies that are also created instantly, and instantly observe all the previous copies created before them...it's probably some mathematical formula in making....at any rate, in an instant countless, possibly infinite amount of cats is created.

Basically an infinite corridor phenomena?

It would therefore make sense that there isn't enough space inside the room with the mirrors the first cat was placed to contain infinite amount of cats. So the sheer amount of cats created in the instant the first cat opened its eyes and looked in the mirror would explode the house from the inside, and possibly more, I am frankly speaking not sure, which is what makes the breeding experiment so exciting.

That would solve the breeding issue, but we ourselves a problem. How to interact with the mirror dimension ad infinitum?

 

[SakeVision]

Basically an infinite corridor phenomena?

That would solve the breeding issue, but we ourselves a problem. How to interact with the mirror dimension ad infinitum?

well this is gonna happen instantly, so milisecond after we close the door and the cat looks in the mirror it kinda will interact with us whether we like it or not

so anyway, at best we get a lot of cats to sell(the infinite calculation ends when the amount of cats inside the room exceeds rooms capacity and physically destroys the mirror) or we create literally infinite amount of cats which sheer mass will act as anything from black hole to a big bang

 

[BenJepheneT]

What would be their class and threat level?

I swear to fucking god if someone recommends keter I will skin their penis with a Swiss army corkscrew

 

[Terragammaton]

I swear to fucking god if someone recommends keter I will skin their penis with a Swiss army corkscrew

My Swiss army knife doesn't have a corkscrew?

 

[Ddraig]

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I came across an article and if I understood it correctly to some extent, then would this mean the demon has been exorcised, or should we say summoned?

How Maxwell’s Demon Continues to Startle Scientists​

Basically the article states they improvised by starting a very small experiment to prove the imaginary creature, and boy were they successful!
Localized usage of the demon's magic while still bound to our laws of physics.
How? From what I understand, they literally transformed information (non-physical NOT) to energy (physical). I mean the application of light-energy conversion isn't new, but now this experiment confirms we have finally touch something. A small step for civilization but finally a bigger leap to the unknown. Well, not exactly as we are promised superior fridges and computers ahead. There are also time crystals, but that is another topic altogether.

Using "tame maxwell's demon" for thread title implies something much much bigger like y'know breaking the thermodynamic laws. Which is not the case...

The Gambler, Maxwell’s New Demon

In a new version of Maxwell’s demon, the tiny being plays the role of a gambler who knows when to quit.

physics.aps.org

From what I could gather it is applying gambling strategies to temporarily get useful work and limit information required, which like anything other experiments before cannot beat second law in the long term.

 

[BenJepheneT]

My Swiss army knife doesn't have a corkscrew?

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[Terragammaton]

Using "tame maxwell's demon" for thread title implies something much much bigger like y'know breaking the thermodynamic laws. Which is not the case...

The Gambler, Maxwell’s New Demon

In a new version of Maxwell’s demon, the tiny being plays the role of a gambler who knows when to quit.

physics.aps.org

From what I could gather it is applying gambling strategies to temporarily get useful work and limit information required, which like anything other experiments before cannot beat second law in the long term.

I copied and pasted the article's introduction, as the thread title comes from the first line right under the article's title.
Aye, the experiment did not solve entropy because the demon increase entropy from decreasing entropy.

What the article is highlighting is the fact information can be converted to energy, and work or imitate the demon.
A gamble for sure because physics and its observer theory. Overall, this is a quasi-demon. Baby steps, everyone.

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Yeah, I don't have corkscrew. I do have a lot of screws, just not a corkscrew.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

That sounds like a case of a concept that was given in a super-digested form by the scientists to the journalists and that wasn't understood by the journalists and then was further simplified and distorted to the masses and then retold in a further misunderstood way on a small forum

 

[SakeVision]

That sounds like a case of a concept that was given in a super-digested form by the scientists to the journalists and that wasn't understood by the journalists and then was further simplified and distorted to the masses and then retold in a further misunderstood way on a small forum

yeah but at least we got to discuss exploding cat black hole

 

[BenJepheneT]

yeah but at least we got to discuss exploding cat black hole

rapidly accelerated pressurized expansive feline urethra, or RAPEFU for short