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This is my novel. The background is similar to the German region in Europe around the 13th and 14th centuries. The content is that the ghost of an era awakens in a new world for some reason and begins his conquest.
For now, my stock has been released and the story has entered a new stage. Although it is not yet mature, this novel is still relatively complete and has taken shape. So I would like to ask everyone for some suggestions. The pace of the novel might be a bit slow. Please excuse me
If you are interested, you are welcome to read:https://www.scribblehub.com/series/2120645/empire/
 

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This is my novel. The background is similar to the German region in Europe around the 13th and 14th centuries. The content is that the ghost of an era awakens in a new world for some reason and begins his conquest.
For now, my stock has been released and the story has entered a new stage. Although it is not yet mature, this novel is still relatively complete and has taken shape. So I would like to ask everyone for some suggestions. The pace of the novel might be a bit slow. Please excuse me
If you are interested, you are welcome to read:https://www.scribblehub.com/series/2120645/empire/
:meowsip: Are you using a translation app?
 

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What kind of feedback are you asking for? There are two types of feedback: Feedback to increase engagement and feedback to improve content quality.

For the first type of feedback, the focus is solely on how your fiction is packaged, released, and promoted.

For the second type of feedback, the focus is more comprehensive, focusing on how your fictional content is transferred to the reader's imagination, perceived, and impacted.

For the second type of feedback, I recommend reading this thread for a more specific discussion of the aspects of feedback you're seeking.


And finally... if you're asking for the second type of feedback, you'll need to be patient, and it may take a long time to receive it.

Imagine reading dozens, even hundreds of pages of fiction (if possible) + analyzing narrative structure + writing critical, constructive, and solution-oriented feedback. This is volunteer work that's not easy.

Personally, I haven't received adequate feedback for the second type of feedback. Most of the second type of feedback focuses more on assessing reader preferences... rather than narrative structural analysis.

Remember, everyone's tastes vary... but writing good fiction is all about narrative competence.
 

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Yes, I'm very sorry. My English is not very good. I hope this doesn't cause you any trouble
:meowsip: It is the issue of the translation, then. Your Chinese might be perfectly fine, but the translated English has a certain stiffness to it. I feel that you are going for a lot of connotations and nuance with your words, but that does not translate well into English. The terms ... often do not fit ... The phrasings sound strange ... You probably need an editor, or experience. You will get better with time, but the first 500k will be a learning curve for you, just like for me.
 

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:meowsip: It is the issue of the translation, then. Your Chinese might be perfectly fine, but the translated English has a certain stiffness to it. I feel that you are going for a lot of connotations and nuance with your words, but that does not translate well into English. The terms ... often do not fit ... The phrasings sound strange ... You probably need an editor, or experience. You will get better with time, but the first 500k will be a learning curve for you, just like for me.
Ok. Thank you for your correction
What kind of feedback are you asking for? There are two types of feedback: Feedback to increase engagement and feedback to improve content quality.

For the first type of feedback, the focus is solely on how your fiction is packaged, released, and promoted.

For the second type of feedback, the focus is more comprehensive, focusing on how your fictional content is transferred to the reader's imagination, perceived, and impacted.

For the second type of feedback, I recommend reading this thread for a more specific discussion of the aspects of feedback you're seeking.


And finally... if you're asking for the second type of feedback, you'll need to be patient, and it may take a long time to receive it.

Imagine reading dozens, even hundreds of pages of fiction (if possible) + analyzing narrative structure + writing critical, constructive, and solution-oriented feedback. This is volunteer work that's not easy.

Personally, I haven't received adequate feedback for the second type of feedback. Most of the second type of feedback focuses more on assessing reader preferences... rather than narrative structural analysis.

Remember, everyone's tastes vary... but writing good fiction is all about narrative competence.
It should be the second type. I don't want to be a burden to anyone. Please act within your means. I'll read this post
 

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This is my novel. The background is similar to the German region in Europe around the 13th and 14th centuries. The content is that the ghost of an era awakens in a new world for some reason and begins his conquest.
For now, my stock has been released and the story has entered a new stage. Although it is not yet mature, this novel is still relatively complete and has taken shape. So I would like to ask everyone for some suggestions. The pace of the novel might be a bit slow. Please excuse me
If you are interested, you are welcome to read:https://www.scribblehub.com/series/2120645/empire/
Are you German, perhaps?
 

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Are you German, perhaps?
No, in fact, this is related to the background of The Times. My novel sets its background according to The Times. Now it is the era of the Crusades, an era of struggle between the church and the monarchy. Given this, no country can better reflect the contradictions than the Holy Roman Empire. Of course, as the contradictions accumulate later on, the perspective will also shift to northern Italy, France, the Balkans, the British Isles and the like, the Investiture Controversy. The Viking conquests and reconquests are also important backgrounds, but the protagonist is currently unable to learn about or get involved in them. You know, he is now just an unknown commoner. Because my novel is a group portrait and involves geopolitics, it's just a matter of choosing the perspective. It's not about taking a single shot of a certain character. It's just that the protagonist's common perspective now forces me to limit it to Germany. When he becomes a nobleman, he will naturally come into contact with Italian and Czech affairs, as they are both important states within the Holy Roman Empire
 

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The novel's readership did increase significantly on the day I posted it, but so far, very few people have given it a review. This feeling is a bit disheartening…
 

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Hello Empire, I'd be glad to help provide detailed and helpful feedback on your work . Feel free to reach out to me here or through my mail [email protected]
Sir, I am incredibly grateful for your interest in my novel. It might be a somewhat peculiar work, not only because it has a slightly translated feel, but also because it adheres to a fog of information and a limited perspective. Therefore, I won't tell you many things directly, but don't worry, it won't affect the reading flow; it will only create suspense. I can even tell you that the first five chapters are more like a prologue, so from a traditional perspective, its structure might be problematic. I hope you can read it in its entirety; it's undoubtedly a heavy task… and then please tell me your impressions, especially regarding the final part, which exposes a conspiracy, but it seems very subtle. But don't worry, even if you're not Sherlock Holmes, you'll see its oddities. I hope you can share your speculations, and then I will give you an answer. By then, I think you'll know exactly what I'm doing, and then we can talk about other things. If you reject it because of the translated feel, I can understand; if you give up because of the workload, I can accept that; but if you are willing to read it, I will sincerely appreciate for your assistance. If you'd like, you can reply here.
 

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Sorry, sis (or dude?). I suggested your feedback thread to the people offering feedback because I thought they would actually HELP you. But I was wrong. They were just talking nonsense, promoting a hidden scheme. Instead of providing constructive feedback that can be read openly on the forum, you should be more careful about responding to suspicious people. Please read this thread:

 

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Sorry, sis (or dude?). I suggested your feedback thread to the people offering feedback because I thought they would actually HELP you. But I was wrong. They were just talking nonsense, promoting a hidden scheme. Instead of providing constructive feedback that can be read openly on the forum, you should be more careful about responding to suspicious people. Please read this thread:

dude.I saw it, and I can only say it's a pity. However, thank you for your help anyway.
 

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Well, I'm giving feedback as a casual reader. I usually only read once to gauge immersion. But this time I relaxed the reading restrictions by reading the chapter several times. I only finished 2 chapters. Here are my honest impression:

(1) Your paragraph format is too long. Long paragraphs make the reader's eyes tired quickly. It would be better to cut long paragraphs into short paragraphs (~3 - 4 short sentences) to make it easier for mobile readers.

(2) The atmosphere of your story is more like a background paste than a living atmosphere. The atmosphere of a story should be used to build the atmosphere of the story and provide context for the story. You can't convey the atmosphere of a silent and tense night in a haunted place with just a short sentence like that night in a corner of the city, in an abandoned castle, someone was performing a heretical ritual. This feels more like a report than an immersive story atmosphere.

If you want to show a silent and tense atmosphere, you need to show symbols in the form of phenomena/settings/objects that support the atmosphere of the story.

For example, depicting fog floating on the top of the castle, depicting a dusty room inside the castle, showing blood on the sacrificial altar to show how silent and tense the atmosphere is. This way, the reader can feel the atmosphere of your story.

(3) Over description. You often describe the characters excessively. You need a long paragraph just to describe the character. This is not good. This practice slows down the pacing of the story.

When you describe too long for a character, the time in your story feels stopped, the reader is forced to stand still and render the image of the character in his mind. The solution?

Instead of describing the character, you should use cinematic action narrative, which narrates the description (of the character) following the action. You can insert special characteristics of the character into the action. For more examples, please read this thread.

(4) Abrupt transitions. You describe the transition between scenes too harshly, using explanations such as "scene shifts to city X". This breaks the reader's immersion. You should make the transition smoother. You can use symbolism to transition between scenes.

For example, instead of having the narrator say "scene shifts to X"... you can use wind symbolism to bridge two scenes in different places:

Fiona is standing on the balcony. Her hair is swaying in the morning breeze. A strand of hair falls down and flies towards the North. In Frankfurt harbor... the wind blew gently, greeting a young man who was gazing at the sky on the shore. His dark robe swayed in the salt-scented breeze. (Just fill in the scene of what the mysterious young man was doing...).

(5) Overly dense character introduction. I've only read 2 chapters, but you've already introduced 4-5 characters. Frankly, this is too much, especially for the early chapters.

Casual readers will have a hard time recognizing your characters if you introduce them too quickly and too many characters in close narrative space.

Honestly, I feel like they're more like a list of names than living characters. You should provide a narrative that focuses more on building characters in depth before introducing other characters. Otherwise, casual readers will have a hard time remembering your characters.

(6) Use of POV. What POV are you using? After reading 2 chapters... I conclude that you're using a omniscient third POV. No problem. But you should be stricter in applying this POV. The third omniscient POV is prone to head-hopping where the dialogue or thoughts of the characters are exchanged with each other.

(7) You should re-learn the principle of show it, don't tell it. I still find raw emotions (like anxiety, etc) in characters, instead of showing subtext emotions through body language, dialogue, action and atmosphere.

Enrich more sensory responses including visual, audio, taste, touch, physiological, and inner state. Thus, your narrative, especially the characters and the world, will be more alive.

(8) I almost forgot... please give spatial clues in your scenes. Don't let the reader guess where your character's position and location are.

For example, "Fiona stands in the altar room" is an abstract narrative. The reader doesn't know where Fiona is in the room. In the middle of the room? In the right corner of the room? At the back of the room?

But if you add spatial clues to "Fiona stands in the middle of the altar room. Her eyes reflect the man in the dark robe." The narrative becomes concrete.

The reader knows where Fiona is standing and can know what she sees in front of her eyes.

Well, enough feedback from me. Hope it helps you (or maybe not). Regards.

Critical Note:
My assessment may be biased. I am only explaining my perspective as a causal reader.
 
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I’ve read up to Chapter 2, and while there are many important elements, the frequent shifts in emotional perspective make it hard for the reader to know whom to emotionally invest in. Simply choosing one emotional anchor per chapter would greatly improve immersion.

If Fiona is the protagonist, the story must make it impossible for her to walk away from this mission.
 
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I’ve read up to Chapter 2, and while there are many important elements, the frequent shifts in emotional perspective make it hard for the reader to know whom to emotionally invest in. Simply choosing one emotional anchor per chapter would greatly improve immersion.

If Fiona is the protagonist, the story must make it impossible for her to walk away from this mission.
Yes, sir. But in fact, Fiona isn't the protagonist; the protagonist is Albrecht, but he's clearly in a passive position. Under Gurga's surveillance, he can't take much action, so I had to use Fiona to provide a moving perspective. Fiona is more like an announcer. The core of the first six chapters is Albrecht's transition from a passive, monitored state to a relatively free state of exile, so the emotional anchor might not appear in the first few chapters, but I will revise the perspective issue.
Well, I'm giving feedback as a casual reader. I usually only read once to gauge immersion. But this time I relaxed the reading restrictions by reading the chapter several times. I only finished 2 chapters. Here are my honest impression:

(1) Your paragraph format is too long. Long paragraphs make the reader's eyes tired quickly. It would be better to cut long paragraphs into short paragraphs (~3 - 4 short sentences) to make it easier for mobile readers.

(2) The atmosphere of your story is more like a background paste than a living atmosphere. The atmosphere of a story should be used to build the atmosphere of the story and provide context for the story. You can't convey the atmosphere of a silent and tense night in a haunted place with just a short sentence like that night in a corner of the city, in an abandoned castle, someone was performing a heretical ritual. This feels more like a report than an immersive story atmosphere.

If you want to show a silent and tense atmosphere, you need to show symbols in the form of phenomena/settings/objects that support the atmosphere of the story.

For example, depicting fog floating on the top of the castle, depicting a dusty room inside the castle, showing blood on the sacrificial altar to show how silent and tense the atmosphere is. This way, the reader can feel the atmosphere of your story.

(3) Over description. You often describe the characters excessively. You need a long paragraph just to describe the character. This is not good. This practice slows down the pacing of the story.

When you describe too long for a character, the time in your story feels stopped, the reader is forced to stand still and render the image of the character in his mind. The solution?

Instead of describing the character, you should use cinematic action narrative, which narrates the description (of the character) following the action. You can insert special characteristics of the character into the action. For more examples, please read this thread.

(4) Abrupt transitions. You describe the transition between scenes too harshly, using explanations such as "scene shifts to city X". This breaks the reader's immersion. You should make the transition smoother. You can use symbolism to transition between scenes.

For example, instead of having the narrator say "scene shifts to X"... you can use wind symbolism to bridge two scenes in different places:

Fiona is standing on the balcony. Her hair is swaying in the morning breeze. A strand of hair falls down and flies towards the North. In Frankfurt harbor... the wind blew gently, greeting a young man who was gazing at the sky on the shore. His dark robe swayed in the salt-scented breeze. (Just fill in the scene of what the mysterious young man was doing...).

(5) Overly dense character introduction. I've only read 2 chapters, but you've already introduced 4-5 characters. Frankly, this is too much, especially for the early chapters.

Casual readers will have a hard time recognizing your characters if you introduce them too quickly and too many characters in close narrative space.

Honestly, I feel like they're more like a list of names than living characters. You should provide a narrative that focuses more on building characters in depth before introducing other characters. Otherwise, casual readers will have a hard time remembering your characters.

(6) Use of POV. What POV are you using? After reading 2 chapters... I conclude that you're using a omniscient third POV. No problem. But you should be stricter in applying this POV. The third omniscient POV is prone to head-hopping where the dialogue or thoughts of the characters are exchanged with each other.

(7) You should re-learn the principle of show it, don't tell it. I still find raw emotions (like anxiety, etc) in characters, instead of showing subtext emotions through body language, dialogue, action and atmosphere.

Enrich more sensory responses including visual, audio, taste, touch, physiological, and inner state. Thus, your narrative, especially the characters and the world, will be more alive.

(8) I almost forgot... please give spatial clues in your scenes. Don't let the reader guess where your character's position and location are.

For example, "Fiona stands in the altar room" is an abstract narrative. The reader doesn't know where Fiona is in the room. In the middle of the room? In the right corner of the room? At the back of the room?

But if you add spatial clues to "Fiona stands in the middle of the altar room. Her eyes reflect the man in the dark robe." The narrative becomes concrete.

The reader knows where Fiona is standing and can know what she sees in front of her eyes.

Well, enough feedback from me. Hope it helps you (or maybe not). Regards.

Critical Note:
My assessment may be biased. I am only explaining my perspective as a causal reader.
Thank you for your constructive feedback. I've realized my problems. I've always tried to write novels by imitating articles from textbooks, but due to the different genre and my limited skill, this seems to have caused quite a few issues. On the other hand, it might be due to my early immaturity; I was indeed quite unfamiliar with creating atmosphere, scene transitions, and spatial descriptions. I will revise accordingly.

Regarding the long sentences and excessive descriptions, these are likely issues stemming from translation and formatting habits, which I will further refine. Additionally, I did have a lot of head-hopping issues, which originated from a misunderstanding of POV (point of view). I now understand how to address this.

Finally, regarding the character introductions, since they are not the focus at the moment, they are more like different labels indicating their existence. In fact, from the perspective of a longer story, this part introduces how Albrecht transitions from a passive, monitored state to a state of free exploration in exile. However, from a short-story perspective, it does present some questions for the reader. This is primarily from Fiona's perspective, and she already possesses mature interpersonal relationships. It's unrealistic for the reader to immediately grasp all of this; in fact, I didn't intend for the reader to understand everything. Fiona merely provides a shifting perspective for the passive Albrecht, because the monitored Albrecht cannot afford any unnecessary or overly aggressive actions. Once the main perspective shifts to Albrecht, the character introduction issues will be resolved.

Finally, thank you again for your suggestion.I think I will now begin revising these narrative techniques.
 
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Fiona merely provides a shifting perspective for the passive Albrecht, because the monitored Albrecht cannot afford any unnecessary or overly aggressive actions. Once the main perspective shifts to Albrecht, the character introduction issues will be resolved.
Honestly, I was quite surprised to find Albrecht as the MC. During the first two chapters, he didn't have the qualities of a narrative protagonist. The problem?

He has very little screen time during those two chapters, and he's passive. If you want him to be a passive protagonist, you need to make him the center of gravity of the story.

Frankly, this is a difficult level of writing, even for experienced authors. Especially in web novels, where casual readers generally have a limited attention span.

Casual readers tend to look for a central figure who anchors the story's emotions. Therefore, the MC usually has the most screen time among the other characters.

However, this is more a matter of artistic choice and market taste. If you want Albrecht to be a passive protagonist, that's fine. But again, the risk is too high for casual reader retention.

You need to think more carefully about narrating him as a protagonist that readers can identify with in a single read.
 

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Honestly, I was quite surprised to find Albrecht as the MC. During the first two chapters, he didn't have the qualities of a narrative protagonist. The problem?

He has very little screen time during those two chapters, and he's passive. If you want him to be a passive protagonist, you need to make him the center of gravity of the story.

Frankly, this is a difficult level of writing, even for experienced authors. Especially in web novels, where casual readers generally have a limited attention span.

Casual readers tend to look for a central figure who anchors the story's emotions. Therefore, the MC usually has the most screen time among the other characters.

However, this is more a matter of artistic choice and market taste. If you want Albrecht to be a passive protagonist, that's fine. But again, the risk is too high for casual reader retention.

You need to think more carefully about narrating him as a protagonist that readers can identify with in a single read.
I acknowledge your surprise, but in fact, this situation didn't last long; he quickly broke free and regained his freedom. This wasn't an attempt to create a passive protagonist, but rather a compromise stemming from a logical issue. Obviously, a normal villain would shackle their summoned creatures to ensure they don't spiral out of control. While I could have followed the protagonist's path of breaking free through infiltration, the problem is he's an imposter, and I don't intend to reveal his true background or the Chaos Church's setting in the short term. Therefore, to control the release of information, I chose Fiona as the first-person perspective. This also tells the reader that intrigue is the core, because Albrecht didn't force his way out, and the unreliable narrative is one of the novel's defining characteristics. I know this won't meet most readers' expectations, but this novel wasn't written for relaxation.
 
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