I need a list of genres and the worst tropes from them

BigBadBoi

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System novels that RoyalRoad loves- most of them are garbage with dumb powersystems that makes you wonder why nobody was smart enough to abuse the everliving shit out of it. Also there's the obsession with numbers that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Generic fantasy novels- church bad.
I'm tired of seeing this trope. Most of the time they're just shitty antagonists and frustrating to read.
 

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System novels that RoyalRoad loves- most of them are garbage with dumb powersystems that makes you wonder why nobody was smart enough to abuse the everliving shit out of it. Also there's the obsession with numbers that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Generic fantasy novels- church bad.
I'm tired of seeing this trope. Most of the time they're just shitty antagonists and frustrating to read.
I mean, any and all authority figures are at a spectrum of bastardry, what makes them annoying is when they fall into the typical villains trope of feeding MC.

I can stand the world government in the work featuring Zac the bald half-undead woodcutter and their constant antics to murder MC because he is a threat.

I can stand the Church of the Three Heroes trying to kill all four heroes because the pope is a power hungry idiot.

I can stand other sects just trying to murder MC because "not my sect's genius? a dead genius then" logic.

These are all very good, being shameless and petty is good for being a villain. Being a hypocrite just adds more points to them. But being moronic and constantly underestimating MC is something I cannot stand. Once is ok, twice is WTF, thrice and you might consider suicide in order to boost up the general intelligence average.
 

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Gender bender- Excuse to write a female mc without actually writing a female MC.

Smut - Cringe

GL - Mostly written by dudes who have never talked to a woman irl.

Harem - Fundamentally illogical, there is no possible way to have a functioning healthy romance with more than one person.

Poly - Unhealthy relationship that will lead to you being cucked. Anybody who says otherwise or defends Poly relationships hasn't reached critical mass yet or is coping. MAYBE can be done well if MC is mentally ill or easily manipulated.

Pretty much most romance because it's written by unhinged degenerates who haven't had a stable relationship.

Trauma/traumatic experience - Is mentioned once and never brought up again.

Antihero - MC is a villain except when they're not.

Villain - MC is a villain except when they're not.
 

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GL written by Horny dudes and BL written by Fujoshi females are the worst.

Those mens don't really act like males that driven by action and things, and those women didn't act with sublety and emotionally driven as they should.

Just replace the Character genders and it's more accurate and realistic since they're written by Author's gender in mind.



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An Isekai-ed character that "Forgot" his name, but not anything else. Like seriously, is naming character that hard ? Just use John, Liam, Jack, or anything.

Even if I forgot lots of thing in my youth, I still remember my name : MC, a.k.a Morris Clarkson.

Might as well make him full on amnesiac if anything to justify forgetting your name.

Even Mushoku Tensei still have original name, even though it's censored by author. It's a very creative use of the name.

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I also didn't like the fact that his isekai-ed irrelevant to his character or the way he thinks about the world and the difference.

Sure you can tell that the character "adapt fast" and "moves on", but it's Outrageous if you don't even show the "adaptation" itself.

They just got here and moves on like a man ? Like they should ? "Be A Man" propaganda doesn't include teleported to unfamiliar place in unfamiliar circumstances.

"Survive first" is the priority and the one people thought in panic. You can calm down later when things get cleared.

Or no thought about wanting to go back the other world. It's a lie that they don't ask the question at least twice a day. It's okay that the character don't like their past, but there's a sense of missing and reminiscing the memories of the past.

I hate my past and I still quite miss the building and the scenery when I'm not too sad, It's just that there's some places and people that make me traumatized.

Even when MC manages to adapt with locals and manage to act and speak like one, he should have some distinct thought process when compared to others.

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MC knows about manga and novel tropes ? How the fuck he even calculate every moves everytime it happens ?

Do you know that reading people get angry and actually seeing one is a different experience ? Let alone calculating his next action, MC probably Still affected by Opponents angry rant before thinking hard how to get out of this situation.

If MC want to calculate, he should do it in safe distance. No need to take actions and risk himself.

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Seeing blood and Gore is quite an experience. Even modern medics and people that deals with cadaver have bad memoris about those.

You can refer to people in medical jobs that deal with cadaver in reddits and other forum to write how the mc deals with meeting gore scenery for the first time.

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There's also some "mental positivity" I can't stand. It's not like I hate positive thoughts, but how the fuck those people saw bad thing happen and after dwelling for a moment, they "snap" and thought "I can't stay like this anymore, it's not positive and I most move forward and be happy".

It's just as stupid as people saying :
"instead of paying mental therapist 100$ to deal with depression, you should just say "It is what it is" and moves on as it cost 0$."

At least show his calming mantra and what his mind cling on in those bad times. Try to show how the MC even got those values, either by teacher or parent or fired or something.

As a person infested with depression, I still don't Understand how those supposedly "depressed mc" manage to "gain hope", at least not with something significant that could affect Mc's situation.

Many people told me that "you should be adult and be a man suitable for your age".

But what the fuck is "be adult" and "suitable of your age" even means concretely ? Can I just follow my instinct and desire so I suddenly awaken my bloodline of a "Man" that resides inside my constitution of a "human with dick and no boob" ?

Nope, the only thing I got when I "follow my instincts" is Horny.

which technically isn't wrong, horny is a mark of a man. But it just shows the bad values of toxic masculinity and not help that much in "dealing with girl and showing etiquette expected of a man".


The question is :
"How, When, and Where the fuck you learn all that shit ?"

Common sense is different between countries. In USA and Europe, many people believe in freedom and free speech.

But in Asia, Freedom is limited to culture and moral values.

You can't just write the character is good, Chad, and adult as he's the best man around.

Who's hes been interacting all these years. Who's his parents figure and how they treat him.

You need to write why he's like that in first place ? Why the luck he choose this action instead of that ? It doesn't have to be realistic, it just have to be Convincing.

Even if Character is flawed, it just have to be written convincingly that people may think otherwise.
 
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GL written by Horny dudes and BL written by Fujoshi females are the worst.

Those mens don't really act like males that driven by action and things, and those women didn't act with sublety and emotionally driven as they should.

Just replace the Character genders and it's more accurate and realistic since they're written by Author's gender in mind.
There is this one user in SH who keep stealing novels from other sites and changed the name and gender of the love interest so it become GL. Everything else is mostly the same. They changed the title and cover picture but not the synopsis. That user is no longer here after Tony yeeted them from this site.
 

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There is this one user in SH who keep stealing novels from other sites and changed the name and gender of the love interest so it become GL. Everything else is mostly the same. They changed the title and cover picture but not the synopsis. That user is no longer here after Tony yeeted them from this site.
Stealing rat bastard
 

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And also non-human (humans plus animal featured like cat ears or dragon tail) hating on humans for being human because oh humans are greedy and bad and they're the only ones who do anything bad to other races. It's not like there are also good humans or anything. (Except influential human female figures of course. ThEy'rE jUsT mIsUndErstOod! ThEy hAd nO oThEr ChoIce!)
And for extra hypocrisy, they'll criticize humans specifically for being racist while claiming that all humans are evil.

Then they will repeteadly refer to humans as bugs since they are always the weakest race, but that doesn't count as racism because only humans can be racist.
 

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lirpg - the system is always beneficial unless it's a "was banished cuz I'm X but X is actually OP" genre which is another problem in itself. The only series I found that played with the system being downright antagonistic was "Banished from the hero party" where it has mind controlling tendencies.

Harem - the whole genre is impossible from a logistical point of view. It would almost always turn into cloak and dagger politics if not downright murder if a yandere is included instead of the "power of love and frienship turning characters into objects" BS that always happens.

GB - just leave them their original. If you want your character to have tits either let them have manboobs or just write a girl from the start...
 

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I personally love tropes. But there is one overused (don't think anyone does it anymore) - forgotten, lost, prophesised heir. Who is currently an ignorant peasant farmboy who somehow learns all he needs to know about running an empire in less than a year.

However. I am writing pretty much that as we speak, so....:blob_awkward:
 

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Note:- The genres listed on this post are based on the way they are applied on this site.
:- For each genre listed on this post, I will start with giving my opinion on the things that I personally believe are popular, then I will state what I like about the genre and finally end it with the things I dislike about the genre.

Isekai:- From what I have read so far, stories where the isekai'd protagonist is someone from the modern day era and reincarnates/transmigrates to a fantasy world with medieval setting seem to far outnumber other types of stories with the isekai genre. What I like about stories with isekai elements is that they can make me look at a world in a different light from the real world. What I somewhat dislike about the genre is that the mc is reincarnated into a new world, they have most(if not all) of their memories with them. I personally think that if the mc has all their

Gender-bender:- Stories where the protagonist has their gender changed after dying are the ones that I have encountered the most. I like that these types of stories can make me see how characters that have had their gender changed react to the changes that they go through and how they adapt to the changes overtime. I dislike that stories with this genre either show us only a few things in regards to how the main characters view the changes that they are undergoing or it is just a minor part of the story overall.

Fanfiction:- Stories where the protagonist is a fan of the original work that they will get reincarnated into seem to outnumber the fanfics where the original characters the authors of fanfics write are written as part of the world(for the fanfic of course). I like that they can provide an alternative way of looking at things from the original work that they are adapted from and they can also provide possible answers in regards to how certain characters would handle certain scenarios or how would a certain character from the original work turn out if he/she did things differently. I dislike fanfics that feature a main character that travels around to the worlds of different fictional works and simply does whatever he/she wants.
 
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