I keep thinking about the moral quandary with Systems and Quests.

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Like I think if you just gave someone a system or quest that had viable results and rewards, what would people be willing to do? It seems to be a sort of an addicting idea, do something simple, gain a small reward. Up the risk up the reward. If everyone had something like that how fast would civilization fall? Perhaps I'm just a pessimist, but I see no future where this doesn't go wrong.
Bit of a conversation starter, what do you think the majority of people would do with a system? Even if you try to turn it good I will not believe you, since willpower is not what I consider a thing the majority of people have.
 

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Like I think if you just gave someone a system or quest that had viable results and rewards, what would people be willing to do? It seems to be a sort of an addicting idea, do something simple, gain a small reward. Up the risk up the reward. If everyone had something like that
Everyone has something like that.
Bit of a conversation starter, what do you think the majority of people would do with a system?
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It would largely depend on the details of such system. If it was made to support individuals, there would be counless conflicts with people's quests conflicting with each other, then that would go crazy bad sooner or later.

Though it would be interesting to see a world where the quests would be made to guide whole civilization in a certain direction, where sopme people would notice it's bad and try to stop. That's actually a really good idea for a story...
 

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It would largely depend on the details of such system. If it was made to support individuals, there would be counless conflicts with people's quests conflicting with each other, then that would go crazy bad sooner or later.

Though it would be interesting to see a world where the quests would be made to guide whole civilization in a certain direction, where sopme people would notice it's bad and try to stop. That's actually a really good idea for a story...
So I'm a Spider, So What?
 

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The biggest issue is how fast those rewards came. If people were paid at the end of the day after work they would be more likely to come back the next day to work

Instant gratification would be how the system works. As far as why it doesn't happen as much, I'd say it's because of all the involvement of government in income tax and other things that are required to be calculated out of the payment. System that's in our real world is trying to make humans work and do a job because it's "expected of them" rather than giving an instant reward system.
 

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Like I think if you just gave someone a system or quest that had viable results and rewards, what would people be willing to do? It seems to be a sort of an addicting idea, do something simple, gain a small reward. Up the risk up the reward. If everyone had something like that how fast would civilization fall? Perhaps I'm just a pessimist, but I see no future where this doesn't go wrong.
Bit of a conversation starter, what do you think the majority of people would do with a system? Even if you try to turn it good I will not believe you, since willpower is not what I consider a thing the majority of people have.
It's too hard to predict what would happen. There's too much factors. It ultimately depends on how big the system rewards are, what the quests are, what the person wants. IT COULD GO A TRILLION DAMN WAYS
 

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Like I think if you just gave someone a system or quest that had viable results and rewards, what would people be willing to do? It seems to be a sort of an addicting idea, do something simple, gain a small reward. Up the risk up the reward. If everyone had something like that how fast would civilization fall? Perhaps I'm just a pessimist, but I see no future where this doesn't go wrong.
Bit of a conversation starter, what do you think the majority of people would do with a system? Even if you try to turn it good I will not believe you, since willpower is not what I consider a thing the majority of people have.
If an actual system were ever put in place over me, I would do my utmost to be rid of it. To me, the implications of having a system equate to a sort of forced limitation, and a sort of Tyrannical imprisonment, rather than freedom or power. If you are under such a system, you are subject to it's whims, it's limitations, and it's manipulations in how you choose to live your life.

For the promise of the 'gift' of easy power, it may control your actions through reward and or possibly punishment. Whose to say where the growth limit of the system is, and whether or not you could achieve greater things through your own hard work and a little more patience? You have no idea of the motivations of such a system, or whether it will lead to your ultimate good. The idea of a system seems to me a golden leash that engages in behavioral psychology to turn you on compliance with IT'S will and not your own.

Fundamentally, a system is antithetical to my idea of a free existence. Whomever put that system in place is controller of your destiny, for good or ill. I would not ever trust such 'benevolence' out of a system placed over myself.
 
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this is giving me an idea for a dark novel of a pure evil god giving humans systems and slowly corrupting them through more and more quests, from the god’s pov ofc
Sounds catchy :blob_aww:
 

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Like I think if you just gave someone a system or quest that had viable results and rewards, what would people be willing to do? It seems to be a sort of an addicting idea, do something simple, gain a small reward. Up the risk up the reward.
ever read DICE? That.
 

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What if the system gives out quests that benefit or encourage society?
 

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Everyone had VR helmets with AR overlays.
The government controls your 'quests'.
Mine just changed to "KILL THE HERETIC: 1,000,000 POINTS" and sent me your picture.
Gonna get me some serious upgrades tonight, BABY!!!
 

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If an actual system were ever put in place over me, I would do my utmost to be rid of it. To me, the implications of having a system equate to a sort of forced limitation, and a sort of Tyrannical imprisonment, rather than freedom or power. If you are under such a system, you are subject to it's whims, it's limitations, and it's manipulations in how you choose to live your life.

For the promise of the 'gift' of easy power, it may control your actions through reward and or possibly punishment. Whose to say where the growth limit of the system is, and whether or not you could achieve greater things through your own hard work and a little more patience? You have no idea of the motivations of such a system, or whether it will lead to your ultimate good. The idea of a system seems to me a golden leash that engages in behavioral psychology to turn you on compliance with IT'S will and not your own.

Fundamentally, a system is antithetical to my idea of a free existence. Whomever put that system in place is controller of your destiny, for good or ill. I would not ever trust such 'benevolence' out of a system placed over myself.
Depending on the system you could be entirely right, if it is one with very strict penalties. But I think you're entirely wrong for the largest part. Our world is very limiting. Systems are ways to break free from common settings. There is slavery, and modern day slavery (black companies), debts, unfair leaders and an uncountable number of modern and fantasy injustices.

Systems provide power to break free from those. If you have a system which doesn't have penalties it wouldn't matter what tasks it gives as long as you would hold onto your principles. People with even a little bit of power (those who can get their hands on guns for example) often don't use it. While others will exercise it as soon as they get it.

I think you don't look at how caged our current existence is, primarily limited by the common form of power, money, a system which would provide money would give you more power, something every system does, it would give you more freedom. If there are tasks which would go against your principles, things like killing, or killing children, without a penalty, the problem wouldn't lie with the system (doesn't matter whether it is sentient or not), it would lie with you.

In the end it wholely depends of what kind of systems were speaking. There are the normal ones, with only a task and rewards, then there are the ones with penalties, some minor, others possibly killing you. But even if it is one with penalties you would have some amount of freedom. Would you rather be a slave to a poor man with minimal food or slave to a rich man, where you still have to listen, but you get better food in return and other benefits, that is pretty much what it boils down to.
 
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