I hate chinese novels

[Ymadthepirate]

I have been able to rant about alot of things, but it was never a whole genre even Harem and Isekais can be intresting but out of every "Genre" and im using the term genre loosely here, Chinese novels are the most annoying one heres a bullet point of how they work

chapter one: Main charectar something bad happens to him oh no stuff n stuff and then boom he comes across some old wizard or some stone that'll help him cultivate which allows to open heavens gate or somethin

Chapter two: Some guy whos big in his area says "You are a trash, and fights the main charectar" only for the main character to two shot him

Chapter three: He comes across a girl and decides to help her, but she has a evil boyfriend who is mega bad so he defeats him

chapter two: Happens agian

then like the main character has to beat up a group of people sometime there is a tournament, but nobody cares

chapter two happens agians

and these can last for thousands of chapters and tens of years its SO ANNOYING

I'd keep going but unlike RWBy and Korra its the exact same thing noting changes

 

[Draconite]

It's true that most chinese xianxia are like that, but that kind of cliche is outdated at least in CN raws nowadays. And there'ssome novels that didn't go that way such as Cultivation Chat Group, Warlock of Magus World, and Lord of Mysteries to name a few.

 

[IDKWtWrite-San]

There are some chinese novel that didn't have a generic cliche like that. Example of it is King's Avatar, I'm not the Demon God's Lackey, The Legendary Mechanic, etc.

I just think you're only focusing are mostly genre that are Wuxia, Romance, Harem type and Cultivating type of things. Though not like your opinion is not valid. Everyone have preferences afterall.

 

[Grandloaf]

Wrong. The fact that chinese novels suck is because I didn't write them.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

 

[IDKWtWrite-San]

Wrong. The fact that chinese novels suck is because I didn't write them.

 

[Ymadthepirate]

You guys do have fair points

 

[BigBadBoi]

I'm actually close to filtering chinese novels in NovelUpdates but haven't yet because gems like Lord of the Mysteries, Crazy Lich, etc. exist.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I would like to advise you on some works but...

I have shit taste and I suckle xianxias like a baby to momma's teats.

Also, that trend was years ago, I recently read a work called Sage Monarch (ended eight years ago) and yes, it is exactly the shit you just said.

Try Tale of Herding Gods?

 

[Dudealien]

this is racism I can’t stand for it















also I like cultivation novels

 

[BlackKnightX]

I have been able to rant about alot of things, but it was never a whole genre even Harem and Isekais can be intresting but out of every "Genre" and im using the term genre loosely here, Chinese novels are the most annoying one heres a bullet point of how they work

chapter one: Main charectar something bad happens to him oh no stuff n stuff and then boom he comes across some old wizard or some stone that'll help him cultivate which allows to open heavens gate or somethin

Chapter two: Some guy whos big in his area says "You are a trash, and fights the main charectar" only for the main character to two shot him

Chapter three: He comes across a girl and decides to help her, but she has a evil boyfriend who is mega bad so he defeats him

chapter two: Happens agian

then like the main character has to beat up a group of people sometime there is a tournament, but nobody cares

chapter two happens agians

and these can last for thousands of chapters and tens of years its SO ANNOYING

I'd keep going but unlike RWBy and Korra its the exact same thing noting changes

It’s called face-slapping: one of the ultimate form of wish-fulfillment for people who want to release their frustrations in life. It will go on and on for the hundreds or even thousands chapters to come until you’ve released all that frustrations. There’s also another term for this—“masturbatory story”.

 

[Kilolo]

not trying to take any side. but i'll just say

a chinese novel that doesn't follow these template is either following another cliche template or totally went undetected.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

If you aren't talking about things like face-slapping, damsels in distress, main characters having (or being) plot devices - tropes that are common across pretty much all of fiction, regardless of genre or country of origin and is more about amateur writers sticking to familiar tropes (even if the tropes in question are dumb/offensive/bad), and talk about repetitiveness only, then you will only be right about xianxia and wuxia and josei - the three cancerous genres I have filtered out of my search&update results on NU that all pretty much are a rinse&repeat of a very bad first arc. The rest are pretty tame on repetition (in story).
The problem I see with Chinese (Web) novels is how similar they all are - a sin common in all webnovels I consume, including SH, but especially bad in Chinese ones. For every good story you will find not dozens, but actually hundreds of cheap knock-off's, and for pretty much every story there is at least one twin (in my experience, which probably means dozens more that I never bothered to take a second look at) that is pretty much all but the same story, but with different names.

 

[AshTheGamer]

There are some chinese novel that didn't have a generic cliche like that. Example of it is King's Avatar, I'm not the Demon God's Lackey, The Legendary Mechanic, etc.

I just think you're only focusing are mostly genre that are Wuxia, Romance, Harem type and Cultivating type of things. Though not like your opinion is not valid. Everyone have preferences afterall.

True The King's Avatar is one of my favourites and the demon god's Lackey is also pretty good although i only read till the episode where the demon god's Lackey (not really) became that Police officer's daughter's friend (it's been around 5 months since i read it so not sure ).

 

[PancakesWitch]

as many people said, yes, there are some pretty good works out there, but the vast majority, 99% of all cultivation/CEO/harem/"romance" chinese novels are incredibly repetitive, lack soul, and are terrible, but they are produced in mass as authors write several chapters a day and these novels is where most people end up going after reading everything they can. Some get so fixated with these stories that even their own mentality change and they progressively become more stupid, without being able to be satisifed with stories that dont feature an "op badass cold ruthless assassin emotionless mc", these type of readers are so fucking abnoxious, any sort of fantasy you write will have these guys hoping your mc becomes a murderhobo that slay gods or something

 

[Ymadthepirate]

Tbh I agree with most of the people here there are some good works out there so me throwing all of chinese novels under this is not exactly fair.

 

[Tsuru]

Hi. I am a veteran reader.

I will simply give you my catchphrase : "CNs is a pile a mountain of shit but got a few gems in it"

Simply. 95% CNs are shit. 5% are good.

Funny thing, Chineses are good for ero-novels better then Japanese because they wrote descriptions and not moans (it's only lately that JPs began to write more description), KRs are better at wuxia then chineses because they are not censored and can write anti-hero MCs, JP are better at writting GAME-PLOT series then KR that had game-plot works being their main bussiness in early era.

I am a wholesome reader for so long and you guys should be happy that lately more and more authors are beginning to be good compared to before. Now 90% are shit and 10% are good. Just need to choose well. But in short "don't read xianxia".

I will cite a few works that are not "poison" : [I have a safari park] (MTL though) Really wholesome and got a romantic cute girl FL that appear from ch1. The best parts is seeing the visitors showing reactions. "Reactions" is what differentiate a good work or not for some genres. You can see the author is good if he create new characters and/or show a different pov for reactions. Btw don't read the "livestream" genre, at first it's nice but soon rotted because too many authors rushed to do this genre and often you see MC doing a cool stuff and people being shocked. Here, you see visitors being happy, interacting, talking, eating, having family times, laugh, flirt etc. MC get a system that also allow him to do really funny or sweet stuff with animals (or defensive or aggressive or calming).
Also the novel is well researched as lot of interesting infos are explained. For animal lovers it would probably please them.

[Martial arts master] An old work. That was the very very first work that had wholesome romance for male readers. The author is/was famous. Really fluffy. For some unknown reason, fluffy/wholesome works was not popular early on and NO ONE translated after a certain chapter, but only in recently it was translated. WARNING : Don't mistake with the shit manhua Martial Master.
This work got college MC encountering really nice and friendly (crush in high-school) FL at ch1 and try to get strong to get her. The best point compared to early novels, the author wrote in details how MC get advices to get her from his best friend that got a girlfriend and you see MC slowly getting close to her in a logical way. It's wuxia urban but no shitty young master, no love rival. Also MC get a cheat but it's not overly op and in fact is just a BOOSTER. In fact, the novel way of romance could even be a nice guide to romance with the tips said by the friend. The small malus i think is that this method probably got chance to make you be "friend zoned".
Btw, if you feel it's slow, don't worry, 20+chap MC began to accelerate and ch1XX+ he confess.

Daddy restaurant in another world. The novel is completed in RAWs while ago. Btw the author is a dad himself and wrote a few other dad series.

[I really don't want to be trainer] (in comrademao website MTL). Most sweet fanfic i ever seen. Also cried a few times. Chinese fanfic that do well are more rare then winning lottery. Author even wrote in a note "I want to make this novel really really sweet". Basically MC wake up and is in pokemon world fusioned with IRL. And so continue his livestreams about pokemon tips. Beside the misunderstandings about some pokemon characters thinking he is mega op trainer, the best point is the MC don't have HERO syndrome and go in adventure. He wants to get money and live his life in city. In fact, it's his pokemons that think and train by themselves to make him number 1. They get op in funny ways. PS : a rare work where MC get with Cynthia. Also author wrote perfectly the scene of her appearance.

I will conclude with : The smart authors know that their own xianxia culture is a dead end, and most western style backgrounds CNs are good.

 

[SirDogeTheFirst]

A similar thing happens in many genres. In isekai, we have people with the "Weakest" ability and their harem of loli catgirls. Now, talking about manhwa's, I see lots of weak guys somehow becoming superpowerful thanks to a system thingy (thanks to solo leveling, I guess.) you can add more to this list. In short, we have many similar concepts in many different types of genres in countless media.

The main question should be why there are so many similar contacts.

Now, answer to one million dollars worth question: It is demand.

If most people prefer one cliche formula, some creators will not take a risk and go after the popular.

Yet we have some hidden gems, who try to break the set rules and create their formulas, and it is like that almost everywhere, not limited to media.

 

[RepresentingCaution]

Every genre has its tropes. You start to recognize patterns after a while, and then it gets boring.

 

[K_Jira]

BL Chinese novel is superior

I also like how they write their comedy