How does wealthy businessmen wage wars with one another

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I had seen CN novels, Korea, Hong Kong and (wtf) Taiwan dramas about how the rich dukes it out with one another, ranging from sabotage like attacking physical store and preventing bank loans, espionage to waging price wars if they have a common product. Using mafia/ yakuza/ underground society is the last and despicable act like kidnapping of kins. And there is also rigged election and so on, of course. The theme kinda runs well in modern and old times.

What I want to know is whether does the west show innovation in the battle of money or is it just the same ol' stuff like above?
 

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I had seen CN novels, Korea, Hong Kong and (wtf) Taiwan dramas about how the rich dukes it out with one another, ranging from sabotage like attacking physical store and preventing bank loans, espionage to waging price wars if they have a common product. Using mafia/ yakuza/ underground society is the last and despicable act like kidnapping of kins. And there is also rigged election and so on, of course. The theme kinda runs well in modern and old times.

What I want to know is whether does the west show innovation in the battle of money or is it just the same ol' stuff like above?
Look at the oil wars between Russia and sheiks. That's pretty much your answer.
 

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I had seen CN novels, Korea, Hong Kong and (wtf) Taiwan dramas about how the rich dukes it out with one another, ranging from sabotage like attacking physical store and preventing bank loans, espionage to waging price wars if they have a common product. Using mafia/ yakuza/ underground society is the last and despicable act like kidnapping of kins. And there is also rigged election and so on, of course. The theme kinda runs well in modern and old times.

What I want to know is whether does the west show innovation in the battle of money or is it just the same ol' stuff like above?
Americans jave Cia do shit the other countries idk
 

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There are several tactics, ranging from mostly above-board kinda-scummy, but entirely legal, to absolutely illegal and beyond unconscionable. It depends on how far down you want to go with it.

I am a fan of making gradient lists for things of this nature. So, I will start with 1 being the most above-board method, and as numbers get higher they will get progressively scummier.

1. Cornering the market. This is the tactic of making yourself the only game in town in terms of selling a particular product. This can be done by several methods. The most common are 1. buying out all the suppliers of the component parts, and 2. selling the product at a loss for a period of time in order to drive out business from smaller competitors. After the competitors go under, you bring your prices back up to a more normal level. Both of these tactics only work with a large disproportionate wealth-gap between the person executing this tactic and their competition. Whole-sale buying out the competition is also an option.

(An example of this would be Youtube in the area of online streaming. They offered the Youtube partners program, which incentivized all the best creators to start using Youtube, because they were able to get payed as Youtube creators. They later started reducing the amount of money that Youtube partners earned, and then pushed it farther by demonetizing certain content. Youtube actually still, today, runs at a loss due to the partners program.)

2. Taking advantage of international free-trade in order to bring products in from countries with less ethical worker-rights laws, which enables the products to be sourced cheaper. (This, FYI, is why free trade is a mechanism of enabling evil to occur.)

3. Buying up politicians to implement laws on the industry that are cost-prohibitive to follow. This is another method of "cornering the market." Larger companies can afford to follow these strict regulations. Smaller competitors cannot.

4. Corporate spying. Discovering the secret methods used by the competitors in order to source or produce their products. If it's ONLY at the level of corporate spying, then this is followed up by copying their methods.

5. Minor corporate sabotage. This would be taking advantage of information gained via corporate spying in order to apply perfectly legal pressure against whatever method the competition is using. (This can also include tactics such as attempting to poach employees from the competition.)

6. Corporate smear jobs. Causing a scandal against the competition by accusing them of something (true or false) that the public would find morally repugnant.

7. Moderate corporate sabotage. This would be things like buying up a company that is a valuable source for another company's products, and then cancelling the contract. Or, otherwise driving their suppliers out of business via other methods on the list.

8. Plausibly-deniable corporate thuggary. Using plausible deniability to deal with gangs and crime syndicates to cause trouble for their competition's store-fronts and customers.

9. Executive targeted mafioso tactics. This would be the actual targeting of higher level executives and the family of executives with kidnapping and assassination.

Huh... how do my lists ALWAYS wind up being 9 items long? Every single time! I don't even do it consciously, it just always turns out that way somehow.

Anyway, as you move toward 9, it's not just that it becomes more morally reprehensible. It also exposes the person performing these tactics to more risk. As such, they would need reason to feel they can be rather bold before resorting to the higher numbered tactics on this list. On the other hands, the items closer to #1 don't actually work unless you are in a nation with very strict government order and rule of law. So, unless such a beaurocratic system exists, they are less likely to use those tactics. This means most cases usually trend toward the middle, with it only being the more extreme cases that go to either end.
 

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I don't know about the businessman but I do know about the one thing important. There is something more very important secret hidden in the SH. It was so highly priced that even Coca-cola tried to trade it with their secret recipe. The oil giant of the middle east, the oligarchies of Russia are willing to pay trillions of dollars to buy it. Even the big online-literature giant China literature [backed by Tencent], the FBI, The MI7 tried to buy it.

Yet, to this day, it is known by only one man. He has an account here. But I can't say the name aloud. If I do, I might get tracked by people you don't want to mess with. Still, for you, spoiler ahead.

The secret is the code of trending on SH. And the man is known as Toney.
 

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I don't know about the businessman but I do know about the one thing important. There is something more very important secret hidden in the SH. It was so highly priced that even Coca-cola tried to trade it with their secret recipe. The oil giant of the middle east, the oligarchies of Russia are willing to pay trillions of dollars to buy it. Even the big online-literature giant China literature [backed by Tencent], the FBI, The MI7 tried to buy it.

Yet, to this day, it is known by only one man. He has an account here. But I can't say the name aloud. If I do, I might get tracked by people you don't want to mess with. Still, for you, spoiler ahead.

The secret is the code of trending on SH. And the man is known as Toney.
TONY. Why is there an E?
Look at the oil wars between Russia and sheiks. That's pretty much your answer.
After a quick wikia read, it felt like both idiots managed to shit on the table and on everyone else as well.

Why did they initiated the price wars again?
Look at the oil wars between Russia and sheiks. That's pretty much your answer.
After a quick wikia read, it felt like both idiots managed to shit on the table and on everyone else as well.

Why did they initiated the price wars again?
 

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After a quick wikia read, it felt like both idiots managed to shit on the table and on everyone else as well.

Why did they initiated the price wars again?
Yep, that's your answer. The upper management of wealthy companies is utter idiots.
 

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Yep, that's your answer. The upper management of wealthy companies is utter idiots.
*face palm*

The reason I asked the question is because of Succession the show and how stupid and obnoxious rich people it show. Wtf, really scary to know the people who has the ability to ruin lives en masses are also potentially braindead, just like in medieval times.
 

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*face palm*

The reason I asked the question is because of Succession the show and how stupid and obnoxious rich people it show. Wtf.
Yes, and all those wealthy businessmen wars are for shows. When real big money daddies go to fight, the ending is almost always the mass shooting of their own legs. Perhaps we are talking about a different level of richness. Yet every time I look at how those big companies start fighting, it always ends with an epic fail. Maybe it is due to espionage, threats, and so on, but I assume it's because of human incompetence.
 

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I had seen CN novels, Korea, Hong Kong and (wtf) Taiwan dramas about how the rich dukes it out with one another, ranging from sabotage like attacking physical store and preventing bank loans, espionage to waging price wars if they have a common product. Using mafia/ yakuza/ underground society is the last and despicable act like kidnapping of kins. And there is also rigged election and so on, of course. The theme kinda runs well in modern and old times.

What I want to know is whether does the west show innovation in the battle of money or is it just the same ol' stuff like above?
If the party says no, you were once a businessman. Conflict requires an equal battlefield, a fair and open market. Such usually doesn't exist in Asian economies. The market is neither fair nor open. The market is regulated and controlled, and when the right people knock on the door, you can't say no.

The conflict you describe requires a weak state, a lack of central authority, and chaos, but those factors hurt business more than they help. Conflict causes friction, and friction is not good for business.

The Russian 90s are an excellent example. The 90s saw unprecedented rise, but also unprecedented decline at the same time.
 

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3. Buying up politicians to implement laws on the industry that are cost-prohibitive to follow. This is another method of "cornering the market." Larger companies can afford to follow these strict regulations. Smaller competitors cannot.
That's what I was going to say.
 
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