How do you maintain confidence in your story...

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Queenfisher

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This thread comes right on time for my depressive episode +_+. I wish threads like these were pinned somewhere because many of us need them so much. The issue is that when I'm happy and on the roll with my writing, I find it hard to even imagine how this episode feels. On the other hand, right now, I can't remember what being inspired and happy feels like. I can't read, I can't watch movies, I can hardly get myself to wake up, so frustrated my mind feels with everything. So I 100% second @HansTrondheim with the bipolar thing, only for me it's manic-depressive, :blob_sweat:.

When this happens, I usually have to remind myself how little such judgments as good/bad even mean in the world of art and that I know nothing and cannot make objective value claims about anyone's art, including my own. These steps help me remember this:

1) The "Shit" reviews of Masterpieces

I go to goodreads.com (or sometimes amazon books, or novelupdates for webnovels) and search for my most favorite books or widely-accepted masterpieces and then go on a binge-reading of ⭐ and ⭐⭐ star reviews of them, :blob_sweat:. It's sobering to an almost hilarious degree. Every book known to be good will have a ton of people shitting all over it and sometimes so competently, you might find yourself agreeing with them only to realize that a good argument can prove or disprove literally anything as good or bad.

Also helps with masterpiece animes on myanimelist, and movies on imdb and rotten tomatoes critic reviews, lol. It's an innocent way to spend time and is very fun, especially when two of your favorite writers clash. (Nabokov shitting on Dostoevsky always cracks me up because I can't help but think that Nabokov's statements are such nitpicky moronisms, but so funnily made that I end up enjoying them ^^).

So when you find yourself thinking that you suck, imagine that your brain is now currently only surfing the 1-star reviews of your own writing. But there are bound to be other star-reviews of it (at least 3-stars, and sometimes, maybe even 4-stars if your brain is being very nice to you *_*), statistically-speaking. You just have to push yourself to check those out. :blob_cookie:


2) The "Underrated Masterpiece" reviews of something claimed as shit

The same, only I usually go to reddit, youtube essays, and tumblr/livejournal for such hot takes. Essentially, you type something like "Why Dan Brown is actually a subversive genius", or "Transformers is seriously underrated", or "SAO is a hidden gem among animes" and read whatever Google throws at you. You are bound to find at least one hot take you will agree with and will see your mind expanding to cosmic levels of enlightenment:blob_aww:.

Now imagine that whatever crap you think you write, someone out there might not only love it but would also make it their religion to disprove everyone else who claims it's shit -- including yourself!

^^

The above methods usually dispel my mood of "I suck" or "I am useless and incompetent" very fast because can you even say what good or bad about your writing is if most people can't agree about what those concepts represent about any piece of art?


The 3) method is even weirder, but it's involves the inspirational stories about artists' resolve and the fickle nature of art history.

What is popular right now might not be so in a decade. Popularity is a revolving door, alas. Thus, some artists who had written what we now know of as solid, decent books that become mainstays in their niches, actually believed they were crap and either didn't publish it, or published it and saw it rot in obscurity at the time. Sometimes it takes the art piece a lot of time to find its audience. So much, in fact, that the author dies before it gets recognition, which is sad, of course. But the only way it can find that belated recognition is if it's actually published in some way or form!

So if you are too insecure with your writing and end up not finishing/not publishing/deleting it, your writing will fail 100%. Or as the quote goes, "You miss 100% of shots you don't fire." :blob_frown:

Just think of Ray Bradbury writing 50 stories every year just so that a fraction of them could end up published! He understood the odds very well. To write a good story (or at least a story perceived as good by someone) -- you have to throw a lot of shit at the wall and hope that at least one sticks. The odds suck, and coupled with the Sturgeon's law of 90% of everything being bad, the likelihood is -- at least one of the books any of us will ever write WILL fall into that 90%. If that is upsetting, remember that out of all of Picasso's, Michelangelo's, Caravaggio's works, only a small fraction is known or cared for and the rest is largely ignored. Shakespeare's plays go from genius levels to utter shite regardless of whether he was writing them early in his career or late! But even if they all churned out masterpieces one by one, some of these masterpieces would still fall into the Sturgeon's law trap for somebody out there because that's just how these stats work...

Think of Stephen King and Rowling and how close they were to never being published. Stephen King's first book actually ended up in a trash bin, and Rowling's first book ended up in the discard pile in the publisher's home after a big run of rejections. Both were fished out of those places by sheer luck. By that one person who believed in them and pushed them to go on.

Not everybody of us can find that one person to believe in us, which sucks. But to have the chance to meet that person, we still have to write our book first so that they can maybe see it one day ^^.

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The conclusion here is... to simply write +_+. Recognition (especially long-term recognition) is a kind of a gamble as is the perception of your writing being "good" or "bad". You can't control how this gamble will play out, but you can make your bets anyway (write and publish and hope for best) because that's literally the only thing that you can influence. :blob_no:
 

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Now imagine that whatever crap you think you write, someone out there might not only love it but would also make it their religion to disprove everyone else who claims it's shit -- including yourself!
I agree so much with this (and everything else you wrote)! It actually made me remember one other thing that helped me before the comparison strategy I worked out: Looking at my own reviews.
Like, if you have published some chapters already and have gotten some reviews (that's easier if you're on more than one site), then there will sooner or later be some of those glowing reviews by people who somehow feel like you're a genius even if you yourself don't believe it. I always went and read those when I was in a slump before and then feel super motivated because, gosh, look at this! At least one person other than my mom thinks I'm great! :blob_aww:
Also, because you never know what may happen on the internet: I screenshot those reviews when I get them. So even if the reader vanishes later or deletes it out of whatever reason or there's a site-overhaul that fucks everything over, you still have the screenshot of that review and can admire it whenever you want to :blob_melt:
 

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I've posted so many chapters, that I've kind of forgotten to worry about if it's viewed as bad. Usually, I'm pretty excited to see the reaction because I think that people will like it. I don't know how to explain it, but I guess it's because I enjoyed writing it? So that I believe that most people will enjoy reading it for themselves.

Not to mention that the first review I ever had when I started uploading consistently this year was a harsh negative review. It turned out that brushing it off was easy for me, so that never really bothers me.
 

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My muses spur me to write, and I listen to them, or rather remember what they told me when things are looking dark. "Marc" told me not to tone it down, not to hide my light just because it upsets some people. His wife gave me a few words of encouragement as well. She talks about her imposter syndrome freely, so I figure if someone like her still has imposter syndrome even when she's made it big working for Blizzard, it's a pretty universal thing that has nothing to do with actual talent.
 

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I was the person who was defined in my early childhood as "the smart kid" and invested huge swathes of my self worth as a human being in presenting an innate intelligence and skill for things and as I aged out of that and had to grapple with my own mediocrity within a larger community (combined with pre-existing mental health issues related to other aspects of my life), I ended up riddled with poor self esteem, deep self-doubt, and chronic imposter syndrome.

Short story: I struggle a lot with confidence in my stories which lead me to nuking them off SH entirely, and I'm wondering how other people, especially people with self-confidence issues outside of just doubt about their writing abilities (coughmentalillnesscough) maintain confidence in their stories. Specifically, how do you maintain internalised confidence. What I mean is, it's fine when I'm receiving external feedback like comments or readership numbers, but when I'm "alone" with my story, like staring at my draft document or just during the writing process, I find it really really hard to believe in my story.

I kind of have tried to rationalise this lack of confidence in the past like "well if I'm doubting myself it means I don't believe in this story so there's no value in struggling to tell it", to trick myself into feeling my anxiety and doomspirals are totally justified and normal and I was right and correct to eviscerate them from the public eye but it's just ended up enabling my problems rather than appropriately dealing with them.

So yeah. What do you do when you just can't believe in your story? Besides giving up on them. I've already done that, so I don't need the disc horse on it.

Take these words as the words of the God of Shitty Life Counseling for Defective Washed Up Waifus.

"I just think of all stories as crap, including my own. I just write because it's enjoyable to write. There's no such thing as the perfect story. Every story has a flaw, there's no point in caring. Flaws are what makes something worthwhile and enjoyable. Perfection is the most boring thing in the world. The only thing you should care about is whether you got a laugh out of what you did. At least that is what Author probably thinks."
 

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You're allowed to fail. Humans fail all the time - it's what makes us who we are. Everyone, everywhere, is failing every day but carrying on; and they'll fail again tomorrow at something else, maybe, but that's okay.
After all, when we set out to make interesting characters for our readers, don't we think about their failures to round them out? Your failures make you more appealing. They're necessary for your character.

100% This

Overcoming our problems, failures, and improving ourselves is part of what makes us, and our characters human.
If everything was perfect there would be nothing to work towards, and no stories to write.
 

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Lol I had times that I argued with readers that gave me bad ratings even though my story was fairly popular. I couldn't even sleep sometimes after reading a bad review but after a while I stopped caring that much.

I guess you have to grow tough skin? A lot of people won't like your story for various reasons, can't do anything about that. There will also be a lot of people that like it so keep your chin up.
 

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For me, i read translated novels instead of original popular novels , since it could crushed your confidence by feeling inferior.
So yeah, read published book instead or a worse/trash novel that can make you feeel way SUPERIOR
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