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Jenn7575

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Almost feel like Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire when he puts his head in the meringue before saying, "Hello!" to the visiting social worker. I know... Jenn, it's too early in the morning for drugs... Coffee the caffeine of choice... At any rate, spitballing in the category of oxymorons. Since we as writers, seem to have a different perspective in the approach of life, would one be willing to share if one is more of a cynical optimist or an optimistic cynic? For myself, I lean towards the latter.

Please know, this is meant to be a fun question that may get the creative juices flowing. :)
 

RepresentingDesire

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I'm quite the cynical person, since I was quite young I never cared about religion and saw it more as an annoyance, when my first existential crisis came I became more or less instantly a nihilist. It doesn't matter what we do in our life but then I chose absurdism to give my life meaning because that's what most nihilist do, so I became a hedonist.

Why hedonism? I was always a empirical and logical person without many morals, before my existential crisis I already made the seven deadly wins one of the best things a human could possess and strive to gain them. It was only logical that when I looked at the reason why humans do what they do, I found that they do it for their own happiness and to avoid pain, a hedonistic idea, so it wasn't far fetched that I became a hedonist.

Over time I started enjoying the meaninglessness and the despair it brings. Over time I came to see that only everything from a objective viewpoint has no meaning but from a subjective it has meaning. I slowly came to believe that everything subjective is nothing but a delusion of the human mind because everything exist that's the meaning of all life.

So it's not weird that I'm absolutely uncaring about everything that doesn't effect me, I simply see everything as a part of reality that we twisted to form a story that could make sense to us. To come back to the question I'm a cynic because everything a human does is for the human in question. So you can make the argument that everything is evil (and even this is a delusion because evil doesn't exist)
 

MintiLime

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Good morning! You’re quite the early riser!

I will have to call myself a cynical optimist. I think of all these bad situations, and yet real life keeps letting me down and showing me how to really create bad situations. (Joking, somewhat).

Alright, time for a serious response.

I was extremely optimistic when I was younger. I didn’t have quite the greatest time in the outside world (bullied, didn’t fit in, until it progressed to just generally ignored). However, I always believed it would get better. I still do believe life will get better (I suppose it already has in comparison to that). I must note that my at-home life was great, my family was/is supportive, so that balanced out everything and helped maintain my sense of hope. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve become a little more reasonable in my hopes, but am still mostly hopeful.

As for the cynical optimist part, I now try to predict every way everything could go wrong. I overthink. I examine people’s motives and scrutinize work emails (I’ve been proved right way too many times for me to consider myself paranoid, unfortunately). I would say this makes me cynical.

In combination, I am rather optimistic that the future will be good as I’ve already determined all the different ways something could go wrong and then prepare ways to prevent said going-wrong.
 

Jenn7575

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From my experience with life, I've come to this line of reasoning (please pardon my English and sardonicism): I've been dicked so many times I should be dyked. Dyked to the point where vodka tastes better. And vodka'd to God being the ultimate proof. (As in 151.) For me, writing is a great outlet in which experience and emotion can be blended into a realm where one can confide in an audience from the safety of one's characters. When thought about in a very real sense, how can we as writers, not leave a piece of our identity within our work?
 

TsumiHokiro

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From my experience with life, I've come to this line of reasoning (please pardon my English and sardonicism): I've been dicked so many times I should be dyked. Dyked to the point where vodka tastes better. And vodka'd to God being the ultimate proof. (As in 151.) For me, writing is a great outlet in which experience and emotion can be blended into a realm where one can confide in an audience from the safety of one's characters. When thought about in a very real sense, how can we as writers, not leave a piece of our identity within our work?

Answering both of your questions:
I'm neither. I'm cynically realistic. For there to be optimism in a view of cynicism, one would have to have much hope indeed. And the second one, you are asking for the impossible. You want to create something and not create. That is what you are proposing.
 

Jenn7575

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Answering both of your questions:
I'm neither. I'm cynically realistic. For there to be optimism in a view of cynicism, one would have to have much hope indeed. And the second one, you are asking for the impossible. You want to create something and not create. That is what you are proposing.
That is an interesting perspective from the create aspect. I'd be interested in hearing a deeper explanation in regard to your understanding.
 

TsumiHokiro

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That is an interesting perspective from the create aspect. I'd be interested in hearing a deeper explanation in regard to your understanding.
First, what is to create? As writers, we usually create worlds of imagination in written form. We direct words to create meaning. Therefore, we have to choose those words. Once we are done choosing the words, we call it done. Sure, this is a very simplified view of what a "written work" is. It can take many more aspects.
But ultimately, we choose "words" to convey "meaning".
Now for "identity". How do we writers choose our words? We first have to understand what those words mean. And words don't have meaning without context. So the first thing we do is, form an understanding with words, identify ourselves with those words, and make sure they represent that "world" that we want to represent.
The very creative act of "writing" already implies you are "identifying" yourself with the words you have chosen. In fact, we do this all the time when we are talking. It is just unconscious. But one can not use words which they do not have a feel for.
 

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Almost feel like Robin Williams in Mrs. Doubtfire when he puts his head in the meringue before saying, "Hello!" to the visiting social worker. I know... Jenn, it's too early in the morning for drugs... Coffee the caffeine of choice... At any rate, spitballing in the category of oxymorons. Since we as writers, seem to have a different perspective in the approach of life, would one be willing to share if one is more of a cynical optimist or an optimistic cynic? For myself, I lean towards the latter.

Please know, this is meant to be a fun question that may get the creative juices flowing. :)
The only time to be saying good morning is between 12 and 4 am. Also happens to be a great time for hunting humans. Make sure to greet your prey before you suck their soul and blood from them. Fear just adds to the fun.
 

Jenn7575

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First, what is to create? As writers, we usually create worlds of imagination in written form. We direct words to create meaning. Therefore, we have to choose those words. Once we are done choosing the words, we call it done. Sure, this is a very simplified view of what a "written work" is. It can take many more aspects.
But ultimately, we choose "words" to convey "meaning".
Now for "identity". How do we writers choose our words? We first have to understand what those words mean. And words don't have meaning without context. So the first thing we do is, form an understanding with words, identify ourselves with those words, and make sure they represent that "world" that we want to represent.
The very creative act of "writing" already implies you are "identifying" yourself with the words you have chosen. In fact, we do this all the time when we are talking. It is just unconscious. But one can not use words which they do not have a feel for.
Just out of curiosity, how deep do you delve into the world you create when you write?
 
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