Do you think this character has a mental disability or a mental disorder? And if so, what do you think it is?

[EliseValkyria]

Hello everyone again

Today I come with another question looking for advice from more people as usual.

Today's topic is about if you believe that this character here is suffering from a mental disability, mental disorder or autism because the truth is that I know very little about the subject. I would like to find out a little more information to write the character better.

The character's name is Lisa

She was an angel but due to a terrible event, she becomes a succubus.

The particularity of her character is that she is partially crazy, basically a yandere, but in reality, she is a comedic character.

She acts crazy and is usually violent, but she really doesn't want to harm the family she lives with. She is just very misunderstood, she really loves her family but her way of acting and showing it is quite particular she does not want to hurt her family, it's just that their way of doing things is what leads to the problems in the first place, one day when they starving and she wanted to cook for them, but the problem was that she brought live pigeons because according to her they were cheap, or another time they bought her a phone so she could make calls, and she was so excited about the gift that she called everyone at 3 in the morning so she could listen to the other phones of the family. The other members can recognize this and trust her because they know that if they get involved in something like a fight, she is not afraid to die to protect her family at any cost.

So far so good and so nice and wholesome. Now comes the unpleasant and most important part of the character.

Lisa is actually a rape victim, when she was an angel, she worked for a boss who wanted to have sex with her, and he took advantage of his status and did it without anyone noticing and using his position to keep her quiet. She wanted to have a relationship with the protagonist, a human she had met before, but this fact marked her and she thought that now she should not be with him.

She initially said nothing and continued to act normal, but little by little her mind became corrupted by the fact that she wanted revenge or at least to seek help. But the damage was already done and her twisted mind turned her into a fallen angel and then a succubus.

She, although she loves the protagonist, suffers from severe androphobia, and hates men to death, although contradictorily the person she loves is also a man. Even though she is a succubus and the reputation she has, she is completely incapable of having sex, because once she even tried to sleep with the protagonist of her own free will, she had a panic attack and ended up fainting before even taking off her clothes, because it reminded her of the rape she had suffered in the past.

Although there are several women in the protagonist's life, she does not care much about it, because she is somehow aware that she is mentally unstable and prefers to be the last on the list, to compensate for the crazy things she usually does. Besides, the other girls usually try to help her with her problem or try to cover for any mistake she might make.

As you can see I think he is quite a complex character and is actually quite important to the plot, especially his past as it gives clues to other more important things for the other story arc. That's why I want to write her as well as possible, and I think she could be identified as a person with mental problems and she herself is aware of this. And I would like to be sure about which one it is to have a better idea about how to write it, I just don't know which one it would be.

Thank you all in advance

 

[RepresentingWrath]

It doesn't matter how you describe her, what matters is how you write her.

 

[M.G.Driver]

I don't really see how bringing live pigeons to a starving family is crazy or misunderstood. They are starving, no?

I don't see any example of her being yandere anywhere here. Sounds more like a happy-go-lucky girl with PTSD, that's about it.

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

To me, it sounds like this character has a heart problem caused by her traumas, and this problem is creating mental issues.
Her trust and love have been damaged.

 

[EliseValkyria]

I don't really see how bringing live pigeons to a starving family is crazy or misunderstood. They are starving, no?

I don't see any example of her being yandere anywhere here. Sounds more like a happy-go-lucky girl with PTSD, that's about it.

Well in another instance she nailed a father to a wall with metal stakes while his son was watching. The man was guilty of a crime yes, but the son was not.

Or the typical yandere stuff like stealing clothes or pillows to have them herself, or threatening people in a really cruel but funny way although that is for comic situations.

 

[M.G.Driver]

Well in another instance she nailed a father to a wall with metal stakes while his son was watching. The man was guilty of a crime yes, but the son was not.

That's not crazy either, that's just lack of compassion. Definitions of words imo. Maybe with a hint of sense of self-served justice in fact.

 

[georgelee5786]

Hello everyone again

Today I come with another question looking for advice from more people as usual.

Today's topic is about if you believe that this character here is suffering from a mental disability, mental disorder or autism because the truth is that I know very little about the subject. I would like to find out a little more information to write the character better.

The character's name is Lisa

She was an angel but due to a terrible event, she becomes a succubus.

That sounds like an immensely horrible event for a holy being to do a 180 and become demonic

The particularity of her character is that she is partially crazy, basically a yandere, but in reality, she is a comedic character.

She acts crazy and is usually violent, but she really doesn't want to harm the family she lives with. She is just very misunderstood, she really loves her family but her way of acting and showing it is quite particular she does not want to hurt her family, it's just that their way of doing things is what leads to the problems in the first place, one day when they starving and she wanted to cook for them, but the problem was that she brought live pigeons because according to her they were cheap, or another time they bought her a phone so she could make calls, and she was so excited about the gift that she called everyone at 3 in the morning so she could listen to the other phones of the family. The other members can recognize this and trust her because they know that if they get involved in something like a fight, she is not afraid to die to protect her family at any cost.

So far so good and so nice and wholesome. Now comes the unpleasant and most important part of the character.

Lisa is actually a rape victim, when she was an angel, she worked for a boss who wanted to have sex with her, and he took advantage of his status and did it without anyone noticing and using his position to keep her quiet. She wanted to have a relationship with the protagonist, a human she had met before, but this fact marked her and she thought that now she should not be with him.

She initially said nothing and continued to act normal, but little by little her mind became corrupted by the fact that she wanted revenge or at least to seek help. But the damage was already done and her twisted mind turned her into a fallen angel and then a succubus.

She, although she loves the protagonist, suffers from severe androphobia, and hates men to death, although contradictorily the person she loves is also a man. Even though she is a succubus and the reputation she has, she is completely incapable of having sex, because once she even tried to sleep with the protagonist of her own free will, she had a panic attack and ended up fainting before even taking off her clothes, because it reminded her of the rape she had suffered in the past.

Although there are several women in the protagonist's life, she does not care much about it, because she is somehow aware that she is mentally unstable and prefers to be the last on the list, to compensate for the crazy things she usually does. Besides, the other girls usually try to help her with her problem or try to cover for any mistake she might make.

As you can see I think he is quite a complex character and is actually quite important to the plot, especially his past as it gives clues to other more important things for the other story arc. That's why I want to write her as well as possible, and I think she could be identified as a person with mental problems and she herself is aware of this. And I would like to be sure about which one it is to have a better idea about how to write it, I just don't know which one it would be.

Thank you all in advance

Just sounds like to me she is suffering from a traumatic past, not necessarily mental issues

 

[EliseValkyria]

That sounds like an immensely horrible event for a holy being to do a 180 and become demonic

Well, there's a lot more to come as it's going to be an important story arc. The summary would be that she wasn't really an angel to begin with, but she didn't know that.

Just sounds like to me she is suffering from a traumatic past, not necessarily mental issues

Well, I really don't know, that's why I'm asking to see what you think

 

[Deleted member 54065]

Her mental 'problems' stem from her trauma, if I understood correctly. Thus, with proper love and attention, it can be healed, thus she can return to normal again.

If you're looking for characters with incurable/difficult to cure mental problems, then you have to look at the genes. Parents, relatives, ancestors who were crazy, something along those lines.

Any case, as someone who worked with rape victims, both male and female, I can tell that the behavior you put in her description is correct. I only find it funny how she expresses her love, but a good number of rape victims I encountered developed a sense of empathy to others, especially when it comes to relationships. (Just don't ask the sexual parts cause it's really traumatic)

(Also, as a Christian, I kinda find it funny that an angel has enough lust in 'him'self enough to rape a 'co-worker'.)

 

[RepresentingCaution]

Calling it a mental disorder would be fitting here. A disorder prevents an individual from functioning in the way they would like to function. Not being able to have sex because of panic attacks is a sign of PTSD.

 

[Poleg]

Hello everyone again

Today I come with another question looking for advice from more people as usual.

Today's topic is about if you believe that this character here is suffering from a mental disability, mental disorder or autism because the truth is that I know very little about the subject. I would like to find out a little more information to write the character better.

The character's name is Lisa

She was an angel but due to a terrible event, she becomes a succubus.

The particularity of her character is that she is partially crazy, basically a yandere, but in reality, she is a comedic character.

She acts crazy and is usually violent, but she really doesn't want to harm the family she lives with. She is just very misunderstood, she really loves her family but her way of acting and showing it is quite particular she does not want to hurt her family, it's just that their way of doing things is what leads to the problems in the first place, one day when they starving and she wanted to cook for them, but the problem was that she brought live pigeons because according to her they were cheap, or another time they bought her a phone so she could make calls, and she was so excited about the gift that she called everyone at 3 in the morning so she could listen to the other phones of the family. The other members can recognize this and trust her because they know that if they get involved in something like a fight, she is not afraid to die to protect her family at any cost.

So far so good and so nice and wholesome. Now comes the unpleasant and most important part of the character.

Lisa is actually a rape victim, when she was an angel, she worked for a boss who wanted to have sex with her, and he took advantage of his status and did it without anyone noticing and using his position to keep her quiet. She wanted to have a relationship with the protagonist, a human she had met before, but this fact marked her and she thought that now she should not be with him.

She initially said nothing and continued to act normal, but little by little her mind became corrupted by the fact that she wanted revenge or at least to seek help. But the damage was already done and her twisted mind turned her into a fallen angel and then a succubus.

She, although she loves the protagonist, suffers from severe androphobia, and hates men to death, although contradictorily the person she loves is also a man. Even though she is a succubus and the reputation she has, she is completely incapable of having sex, because once she even tried to sleep with the protagonist of her own free will, she had a panic attack and ended up fainting before even taking off her clothes, because it reminded her of the rape she had suffered in the past.

Although there are several women in the protagonist's life, she does not care much about it, because she is somehow aware that she is mentally unstable and prefers to be the last on the list, to compensate for the crazy things she usually does. Besides, the other girls usually try to help her with her problem or try to cover for any mistake she might make.

As you can see I think he is quite a complex character and is actually quite important to the plot, especially his past as it gives clues to other more important things for the other story arc. That's why I want to write her as well as possible, and I think she could be identified as a person with mental problems and she herself is aware of this. And I would like to be sure about which one it is to have a better idea about how to write it, I just don't know which one it would be.

Thank you all in advance

Sounds like a women Protagonist-kun should stay the fuck away from.



Also what has autism to do with all of this...?

 

[EliseValkyria]

Sounds like a women Protagonist-kun should stay the fuck away from.



Also what has autism to do with all of this...?

Well, he knew her before she become crazy, she even save his life a few times. So he is returning the favor by taking care of her and trying to help her.

I don't know either, that is why I am here asking , if you see this character fits in that description other or not.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Bruh, this ain't mental illness stemmed from genes. This is just trauma from a shit event.

Btw, great background for the character, #NotSarcastic, you basically gave her a tragic background to work with as well as goals like death of the boss, trying to get justice from corrupt official and finding love with MC. Her being a yandere can come from the fact that she is unable to get what she wants (not being raped) and thus, her love for MC becomes an obsession for her to grasp the one final thing that she truly wants.

 

[Poleg]

I don't know either, that is why I am here asking , if you see this character fits in that description other or not.

I think the closest description would be ''Mental illness born from heavy trauma'' or post traumatic stress disorder.
The character appears to make sense, since sexual trauma can cause a person to behave in a very promiscuis manner.
Short answer: Yes

 

[TheEldritchGod]

Well in another instance she nailed a father to a wall with metal stakes while his son was watching. The man was guilty of a crime yes, but the son was not.

Or the typical yandere stuff like stealing clothes or pillows to have them herself, or threatening people in a really cruel but funny way although that is for comic situations.

CONTEXT.

Nailing someone to a wall, given context is fine. Doing it today, madness. Doing it in the 8th century, not so much.

Stealing pillows isn't insane, its greed.

If being snarky makes you insane, I'm the mad hatter.
One... ANGEL.
I don't know what your angels are like.
MY angels have a very strict hiearchy. Not just the typical Thrones, Whirling balls of fire shit, but physics wise. Have you ever considered how many eyes a 4 dimensional being would need to be able to see the 3d surface of 4 dimensional objects? What if they were 5th dimensional?

How about time? Does it exist? How long have they lived? How jaded are they? If I lived oh... 10 million years, something that took a year would be about as annoying as getting bit by a flea.

The fact you have "the boss" acting like a human shows me these really aren't angels. They are humans with wings in an office setting with clouds.

Are angels born or crafted? If created, why wasn't the boss made with sanity? Why didn't the angel who was raped born with the knowledge to instantly alert GOD that the boss was malfunctioning? Do your angels reproduce? Okay, if so, they got basically the same limits as being human. So what makes them "Angelic"? What makes demons "Demonic" I mean, It doesn't fit any context I can see. So just... make it up as you go along, you don't really seem to be following any lore that I can see.

 

[EliseValkyria]

CONTEXT.

Nailing someone to a wall, given context is fine. Doing it today, madness. Doing it in the 8th century, not so much.

Stealing pillows isn't insane, its greed.

If being snarky makes you insane, I'm the mad hatter.
One... ANGEL.
I don't know what your angels are like.
MY angels have a very strict hiearchy. Not just the typical Thrones, Whirling balls of fire shit, but physics wise. Have you ever considered how many eyes a 4 dimensional being would need to be able to see the 3d surface of 4 dimensional objects? What if they were 5th dimensional?

How about time? Does it exist? How long have they lived? How jaded are they? If I lived oh... 10 million years, something that took a year would be about as annoying as getting bit by a flea.

The fact you have "the boss" acting like a human shows me these really aren't angels. They are humans with wings in an office setting with clouds.

Are angels born or crafted? If created, why wasn't the boss made with sanity? Why didn't the angel who was raped born with the knowledge to instantly alert GOD that the boss was malfunctioning? Do your angels reproduce? Okay, if so, they got basically the same limits as being human. So what makes them "Angelic"? What makes demons "Demonic" I mean, It doesn't fit any context I can see. So just... make it up as you go along, you don't really seem to be following any lore that I can see.

Well, a lot of things happen in the story, but in summary there are several hierarchies of angels, and they range from the typical human with wings, to weird things like the wheel with eyes.

The angels work for THE BOSS, and their main task is divided into two. They work as the staff of a hotel for the people in heaven, and in exchange, they get money to buy things they want, mainly entertainment like art or human technology, which for them are luxury items like having a pre-Columbian Aztec necklace.

And the other is to prevent the conscious races from annihilating each other and defeating the demons. The angels have a fairly large security section, and its members range from patrols in market streets to planetary assault teams. Only the best angels get missions that take them to the world of the living, where they can buy things like souvenirs like the latest iphone and take it to heaven on their return, if they present proof that they got it legally they can keep it, either for their collection or sell it for a fortune. In short, the best soldiers get the best earnings and fame, a purpose that makes them competitive among angels and try to do their best in their work.

obviously, there is a lot more but I'll pass that on to my novel which explains it better.

Why something so bad happened there is part of Lisa's story arc. But again the summary is that behind the doors a rebellion is being managed, the boss acted that way because he knew that someone more important would have his back because he needed him to carry out a successful "coup d'etat".

Along with the fact that Lisa was never an angel to begin with, she was a monster that was made to believe she was an angel, which obviously broke her even more, but that's for later in the novel.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

Well, a lot of things happen in the story, but in summary there are several hierarchies of angels, and they range from the typical human with wings, to weird things like the wheel with eyes.

Yeah, you got the aesthetics down. Not saying you don't, but having a thin venire of "Angelic" isn't what I'm talking about.

The angels work for THE BOSS, and their main task is divided into two. They work as the staff of a hotel for the people in heaven, and in exchange, they get money to buy things they want, mainly entertainment like art or human technology, which for them are luxury items like having a pre-Columbian Aztec necklace.

So they work for compensation, which is a form of greed which is antithetical to the goal and purpose of angels.

Not telling you that you are WRONG. Far from it. Your story, your rules, your "angels". Mix and match whatever ideas you want. Make them all communist for all I care. A whole Army of Babushka Wearing Angels. That's cool. Go with your badself.

I'm saying that you are asking me to determine the mental state of this person and I don't know how to do it, because SANITY is a product of SOCIETY.

Look... If I go around telling everyone I am the queen of England, I'm nuts. If I ACTUALLY believe it, I am INSANE.
HOWEVER...
If everyone ELSE on the planet all agreed I was the queen of England, and I mean THE WORLD agreed, when I am not, who's insane?
Objectively, The world, but in practicality... I am the nutter.

That's how sanity works. It is based on the morals and rules of the society it is based upon. You keep telling me about the ANGEL who falls and becomes a succubus, okay. FINE. But then you want me to judge her mentality and I got nothing because I have no context. Is this just a society with angel wings? Is it angels? Is it something else with comedy over it? Is it a message? Is it an allegory? Are they actually aliens?

You want a psychological profile of someone who is NOT HUMAN, without giving me the social background.

Does she even understand sex enough to know what rape IS? I mean, there are examples of women told, over and over, rape is the worst thing that could ever happen to you, so when it does, it destroys them. And in other cultures, Rape is "bad", but not the end of the world. So the women are more likely to either get pissed and want to destroy the attacker in any way, or blow it off and say, "Whatever".

We are dealing with the psychology of a very touchy subject and so it needs context. I don't need you to explain it to me. YOU need to explain it to yourself.

And the other is to prevent the conscious races from annihilating each other and defeating the demons. The angels have a fairly large security section, and its members range from patrols in market streets to planetary assault teams. Only the best angels get missions that take them to the world of the living, where they can buy things like souvenirs like the latest iphone and take it to heaven on their return, if they present proof that they got it legally they can keep it, either for their collection or sell it for a fortune. In short, the best soldiers get the best earnings and fame, a purpose that makes them competitive among angels and try to do their best in their work.

Okay. How were they born? Childhood? Crafted? Hatched? Sprung forth fully formed from Zeus' brow? Did the BOSS make them, if so, why didn't he make them to like getting molested?

Along with the fact that Lisa was never an angel to begin with, she was a monster that was made to believe she was an angel, which obviously broke her even more, but that's for later in the novel.

Well, okay, that changes things. Now we throw out a whole bunch of stuff. Again, back to, origin: Transformed Human, or Crafted Chimera?

 

[T.K._Paradox]

I have no idea on this person's former mental state to know if the previous obsessive tendencies were the norm for her or her kind.

However to me it just sounds like someone that is trying to a way to cope after a traumatic event.

Also little side note here, how the hell did she 'fall' in the first place?

She was the one defiled and from the way you put it by another angelic being nonetheless. It isn't like she went out an did a terrible act.

And finally what really is the difference between angels and demons, besides aesthetics, if they can basically act, think, and do virtually everything the other can.

 

[AliceShiki]

From what you have said, she doesn't seem to have any mental issues, just PTSD.

She does seem to have a basic lack of common sense, but that's because she isn't aware of the basic norms of the society she is currently living in. This doesn't seem to point towards any particular mental issue, just towards a necessity of having things explained to her.

Autism would be more like... Difficulties in communication, reading people's body language (both of those should not be caused by a simple difference in standards between her life as an angel and life with humans though. It needs to be something that is hers, not a cultural difference), having some repetitive behavior that she uses to calm herself down... It's honestly kinda complicated for me to explain and I do have light autism. I think you need to do more research on the matter if you wanna portray the character as autistic.

I'm trying to think of other mental disorders I know of that alter people's behavior, but from what you've said so far, she doesn't seem to fit into anything in particular. Seems like her only issue should be PTSD.