Disposing useless organs, cool or nah?

[NotaNuffian]

While I was plagerizing Daoist Gu's power system, I already noticed one of the many kinks it had and it was the fact that the author used bugs (gu) to replace the standard elixirs, sacred treasures and even skills in xianxia. Ultimately the bugs can be split into two groups; consumables and permanents.

Consumables are bugs that often grant users to help their bodies to grow stronger, like the Black and White Boar bugs that give their user strength of pigs and Jade Bone bugs that grant user with jade bone. They are straightforward and once the user's body has fully grown from their effect, the bugs lose their purpose and can be traded with other users.

The permanents are simple to understand as well; the user needs the bug to do the things they want. I am genuinely surprised that defensive bugs like Copper Skin bug and Stone Skin bug are not consumables and requiring the user to have them in their dantian to use their effect, though it is possible to permanently have their effects superimposed onto the user's body but the time and effort for it is too BS compared to consumable bugs.

I am mainly focusing on body cultivating because it is my favorite topic but I am also puzzled by how to continue with my plagerizing. So for said organs in my work to work, they have to be placed at the correctly allocated spot, an example is the Gorilla Glands that looks like a pair of testicles that require to be placed beneath the rhomboid muscles, each testicle to each side and the glands will secrete chemicals into the shoulder blade muscles and goes three ways; to both arms and down the spine to promote muscular growth on arms, back and some little bit more might go down the lower limbs.

I have no plans to be like Daoist Gu's bugs leveling and the organs in my work will not grow, instead they serve one function and can do more when paired with other organs for more synergy. Like the Gorilla Glands can pair with Kangaroo Ligament to give the user a strong body that can dish out explosive strikes.

However, body cultivating organs will be as useless as the tail bone once the body has been developed and I see no purpose for their existense. Initially I planned to have a self destruct sequence where the organs will dissolve/ shrivel itself and get expelled from the body after use, but then I think that I should just go with cutting them out and throw away.

So what are your opinions in discarding useless organs?

 

[Sola-sama]

Discarding useless organs and adding beneficial one is a great idea for body cultivation.
If I may recommend organs for reference, you can check Space Marine template model from Warhammer 40k. Before a space marine is officially accepted as one, they need several gene therapy and other treatment so that they can accept the additional organs, they are made through several stages. Each space marine would have two hearts, two sets of lungs, acid glands, et cetera. Though, in the lore, thanks to various reasons, the inheritance to create 'perfect' space marine according to the quintessence template model has been lost. Thus, each Space Marine Chapters developed their own template models.

 

[DarkeReises]

i mean, it's free money

 

[NotaNuffian]

Discarding useless organs and adding beneficial one is a great idea for body cultivation.
If I may recommend organs for reference, you can check Space Marine template model from Warhammer 40k. Before a space marine is officially accepted as one, they need several gene therapy and other treatment so that they can accept the additional organs, they are made through several stages. Each space marine would have two hearts, two sets of lungs, acid glands, et cetera. Though, in the lore, thanks to various reasons, the inheritance to create 'perfect' space marine according to the quintessence template model has been lost. Thus, each Space Marine Chapters developed their own template models.

Yup, this is the reason why I had such an idea in the first place, other than the fact that I find the standard "suck a drop of dragon blood and get buff" idea to be meh. I want to see mutations so I followed Halo and Warhammer 40K's body horror show.

Though Cultivation 40K's demon transformation is just as BS as ticking a Super Soldier Serum and unlock the evolutionary genes, the idea is also a cool concept that allows humans to tap into the gene sequence for additional power, though as stated, the execution is poor.

i mean, it's free money

You can't resell the harvested organ... once it has been used, it is good as dormant and would require another feeding to make it "alive" again.

The second issue is that putting it into other user's body is risky due to rejection and some other medical thing that does not allow us to live with a pig's heart.

 

[DarkeReises]

Yup, this is the reason why I had such an idea in the first place, other than the fact that I find the standard "suck a drop of dragon blood and get buff" idea to be meh. I want to see mutations so I followed Halo and Warhammer 40K's body horror show.

Though Cultivation 40K's demon transformation is just as BS as ticking a Super Soldier Serum and unlock the evolutionary genes, the idea is also a cool concept that allows humans to tap into the gene sequence for additional power, though as stated, the execution is poor.

You can't resell the harvested organ... once it has been used, it is good as dormant and would require another feeding to make it "alive" again.

The second issue is that putting it into other user's body is risky due to rejection and some other medical thing that does not allow us to live with a pig's heart.

Was talking about irl, don't mind me

 

[RepresentingCaution]

I let the hospital throw mine away, but . . .

https://mothertobaby.org/baby-blog/organ-eating-obsession-putting-placenta-plate/

What I really wanted to do was to donate it for research since the placenta causes gestational diabetes, and I had gestational diabetes, but we couldn't find an easy way to do that, and we were too tired to make it happen.

 

[Kenjona]

The tail bone is not useless. It still has a function. Superfluous maybe but not useless. Same with appendix and the muscles that control goosebumps.

 

[NotaNuffian]

The tail bone is not useless. It still has a function. Superfluous maybe but not useless. Same with appendix and the muscles that control goosebumps.

https://www.spine-health.com/conditions/spine-anatomy/anatomy-coccyx-tailbone#:~:text=Function%20of%20the%20Coccyx&text=Weight%20is%20distributed%20between%20the,for%20many%20pelvic%20floor%20muscles.

Appendicitis

Appendicitis is a condition in which the appendix becomes inflamed, swollen, or infected, causing pain in the lower right side of your torso. People with appendicitis will need surgery to remove the appendix, called an appendectomy.

www.webmd.com

While I would agree that the tailbone still has a purpose, the appendix has got to go when it can cause inflammation and a surgery to remove it.

 

[Puji-Maki]

How about disposing useless person? Cool or Nah?

 

[ThrillingHuman]

I mean... Its a cool idea for a story, in the settings I came up for my shared universe it is a very much used practice, but at the same time I'd never use it on my main characters (in-story), because then I'd get caught up on how to make it more realistic, i.e how to make it so it works with the already existing biology and one of my main, philosophical if you will, points across all stories is that humans are incompetent and whenever they try to fuck with nature they get fucked sideways instead...
I'd go for changing the microecology of the body instead. Breed the right microorganisms by setting the right biochemistry and the inner climate, those will in turn change you more naturally and gradually.

 

[Kenjona]

https://www.spine-health.com/conditions/spine-anatomy/anatomy-coccyx-tailbone#:~:text=Function%20of%20the%20Coccyx&text=Weight%20is%20distributed%20between%20the,for%20many%20pelvic%20floor%20muscles.

Appendicitis

Appendicitis is a condition in which the appendix becomes inflamed, swollen, or infected, causing pain in the lower right side of your torso. People with appendicitis will need surgery to remove the appendix, called an appendectomy.

www.webmd.com

While I would agree that the tailbone still has a purpose, the appendix has got to go when it can cause inflammation and a surgery to remove it.

Catch being when it gets infected sure, but it does provide something it seems, especially to those in less than benign living areas. So getting rid of it just because, might not be the right decision.

Digestive Disorders

From causes to treatment, find in-depth information to help cope with various digestive disorders.

www.webmd.com

 

[NotaNuffian]

I mean... Its a cool idea for a story, in the settings I came up for my shared universe it is a very much used practice, but at the same time I'd never use it on my main characters (in-story), because then I'd get caught up on how to make it more realistic, i.e how to make it so it works with the already existing biology and one of my main, philosophical if you will, points across all stories is that humans are incompetent and whenever they try to fuck with nature they get fucked sideways instead...
I'd go for changing the microecology of the body instead. Breed the right microorganisms by setting the right biochemistry and the inner climate, those will in turn change you more naturally and gradually.

The some of the implanted organs in my planned work do what you just state, the Gorilla Glands affects the muscular growth of the user (which is why there is the need to place it at proper location) and with every consumption of food, most of the nutrients will be drawn to the new organ to convert said nutrients to chemicals that will stimulate for beefier arms, thicker bones and (hopefully not) induce hair on arms, back and chest.

Then there are some organs that require you to remove bits of yourself to use, like the Earth Ear in Daoist Gu where Fang Yuan cut off his own ear to use it. One such case is the Calamity Core, where one has to cut off a chunk of their pineal gland to stuff the marble in.

I have an unwanted dislike of using a needle, super serum and CRISPR-ing the genes until superhuman thanks to 成神日志, the chinese novel likes to throw in scientific jargons and then calls it a day and that felt, to me, too handwavy. It did tried to write a short experimental phase that but after awhile, MC will just go "needle to the ass and SUPERMAN".

The humans are idiots trope is always there. I mean, in my work, why did the previous generation of humans died off even though they had the gundams and astartes? Infighting. While the outer gods just sit at the side eating popcorns. Fun fact at the current timeline, humans are still biting each others' tits off instead of fighting the outer gods.

Catch being when it gets infected sure, but it does provide something it seems, especially to those in less than benign living areas. So getting rid of it just because, might not be the right decision.

Digestive Disorders

From causes to treatment, find in-depth information to help cope with various digestive disorders.

www.webmd.com

I feel like the topic had been derailed considering that I was talking about make believed organs, that once served its purpose, are considered to be meanless or even detrimental to the human body.

In my case here, I wanted the organs to be removed for a good reason; there is only a limited amount of space for the MC to stuff these weird organs into him and some of these organs might occupy the same space.

In the case of Warhammer 40K, space marines have no needs to remove the organs that promote muscle and bone growth because it does not interfere with the other organs at work.

Discarding useless organs and adding beneficial one is a great idea for body cultivation.
If I may recommend organs for reference, you can check Space Marine template model from Warhammer 40k. Before a space marine is officially accepted as one, they need several gene therapy and other treatment so that they can accept the additional organs, they are made through several stages. Each space marine would have two hearts, two sets of lungs, acid glands, et cetera. Though, in the lore, thanks to various reasons, the inheritance to create 'perfect' space marine according to the quintessence template model has been lost. Thus, each Space Marine Chapters developed their own template models.

Wikia on creation of super soldiers

Can't paste this shit in NUF. https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Gene-Seed https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-II_augmentation_procedures https://reincarnator.fandom.com/wiki/Seven_Legacies As shown in above examples, please provide me with name of work and link (if possible).

forum.scribblehub.com

Had made this thread before, here is my list of reference.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

The humans are idiots trope is always there. I mean, in my work, why did the previous generation of humans died off even though they had the gundams and astartes? Infighting

Nah, my idea of humans are idiots is, humans try to do something like a gundam, and it costs way too much, does way too little, destroys the environment and breaks after three failed attempts to start it with a huge fireball.

How about disposing useless person? Cool or Nah?

Everything for the social revolution, comrade. Now off to the execution with ya