Recommendations Different explanations of cultivation mechanisms

[NotaNuffian]

Call me a cunt, but it is cultivation, it is just not taoism cultivation with mpreg and shit.

And also the west do not have such extensive body tempering methods. The west's method is literally boils down to either finding a sugar daddy/ mommy for magic juju or be a tech nerd so hard that they reality warp.

Anyways, back to rant.

It is always split into two; mind and body. Sometimes spirit gets involved but now it is just shoved into mind for less clutter and it is always the same explanation.

Mind cultivators "ascend" their soul/ consciousness to the Heavenly/ Nature/ Origin Dao akin to the mini universe that is oneself extending to the outside greater universe and affecting it. Like Domain Expansion really.

Body cultivators bulk up, turning their body into Body of Steel/ Golden Body/ mini greater universe (???) and become immortal.

I first heard the Mind and Body cultivation in Unsheathed and though, oh wow cool. And after more than two years since Unsheathed first written the distinction of the two, it is everywhere.

And I hate it.

Why don't do an inverse by having one's mind so shut off from outside influence, implode like a supernova after can't compact no more and fuck up outside reality? Why not aligning one's body's elements to fit the Heavenly Dao so much that one literally melts/ bleeds into the Dao, immortal and invincible as the Sky and Earth itself?

 

[Rhaps]

Why don't do an inverse by having one's mind so shut off from outside influence, implode like a supernova after can't compact no more and fuck up outside reality? Why not aligning one's body's elements to fit the Heavenly Dao so much that one literally melts/ bleeds into the Dao, immortal and invincible as the Sky and Earth itself?

This sounds like the Buddha

 

[NotaNuffian]

This sounds like the Buddha

... after quick baidu, it seems so.

The logic is always the same, seek the power from within and outside of one.

Just that chinese writers now latched to elevating one's mind as "out" and bodybuilding as "in".

 

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[NotaNuffian]

And no one posting here... Dammit.

I am artificially making traffic.

 

[3guanoff]

Why not aligning one's body's elements to fit the Heavenly Dao so much that one literally melts/ bleeds into the Dao, immortal and invincible as the Sky and Earth itself?

I think I read a few qidian novels like this. Been too long, but the main drawback was usually the loss of self. Cultivators subsuming a Dao or even all the Daos were no longer themselves. Consider it, everyone has their own Dao. If you subsume the Dao of the Heaven and the Earth, you will merge with it. Your own Dao is mostly overwritten, and so is your self.

I am not very familiar with buddhist cultivation, but even daoist cultivation goes beyond mind and body dualisms. At least in novels worth their salt.
For basics, I recommend this article:

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www.sohu.com

Almost forgot, there's also Confucian cultivation (儒道), though it is usually not considered as much. They use righteous qi （正气）。

 

[CharlesEBrown]

This sounds like the Buddha

So far all of the (few but my wife keeps stumbling on them as audiobooks) Cultivation stories I've read seem based on Chan Buddhism, which is about 60% Buddhism and 40% Taoism (primarily Taoist Alchemy)...