Convert novel into Kinetic novel using twine or renpy?

[newage23]

I mean did anyone try to convert their r18 novel into kinetic novel using twine(very easy to make since your game story is completely linear without choices) or renpy(little hard to make but it can earn more if you add more pictures). The reason why i am asking is it seems that, there are more patrons in adult games than adult novels. So is it possible for the authors to take use of this and convert the novels to kinetic novels if they have free time so that they can get more popularity and make some extra money.

 

[DarkeReises]

Making kinetic novels requires art, which requires money, and also requires rewriting the story to match the style of a kinetic novel, which takes time. Both distract from the main goal of writing for probably marginal profit. If an author is raking in enough cash to hire a fulltime artist for their kinetic novels, and can make more than one, at that point there's probably no reason to. At least that's how I see, I know jack shit about the specifics of the economy on normal writing v making a kinetic novel, so yeah.

 

[newage23]

Making kinetic novels requires art, which requires money, and also requires rewriting the story to match the style of a kinetic novel, which takes time. Both distract from the main goal of writing for probably marginal profit. If an author is raking in enough cash to hire a fulltime artist for their kinetic novels, and can make more than one, at that point there's probably no reason to. At least that's how I see, I know jack shit about the specifics of the economy on normal writing v making a kinetic novel, so yeah.

Yeah i agree but i still wonder whether this may work for authors who only make few dollars are none as there are more ways to attract visitors and money to the game, About art i guess there are still many such games without art during the start as most people come to read the sex scenes.But some of them add some art after their game gets a certain amount of patrons or certain amount of money

 

[EliseValkyria]

My original novel I wanted to make it a visual novel. It was a nightmare to write, having to find all the best resources I could, music, art, everything freehand. But the hardest part is how limiting it is in terms of writing the environment. The most important part of a visual novel is the dialogue. But how to write moderately complex action scenes in a short form.

I ended up leaving the project aside to dedicate myself to writing it as a novel and the truth is that I felt much freer. Now I could write about any part of the world, I could write the characters as I wanted and as long as I wanted. Complete chapters where no one says a single word because they are action-packed situations where a second is the difference between life or death.

I'm not saying it's impossible to do. I'm just saying that in the time you dedicate to make a visual novel you can easily write three written novels. Or in my case dedicate all that to write just one and fine tune each and every detail in a meticulous way.

 

[Zirrboy]

Why not try your hand at it yourself?
Porn isn't trivial to write, but not too hard to do at an enjoyable level and you mentioned the tools already.

 

[Love4NovelGuy]

Why not try your hand at it yourself?
Porn isn't trivial to write, but not too hard to do at an enjoyable level and you mentioned the tools already.

Erotica that’s enjoyable and above the base quality of two people rubbing against each other while moaning is hard. There’s a lot of erotic visual novels out there, but I here are only some remembered by the community.

Even the original Fate/Stay Night was filled with plot and character before you got to the tiddy scenes, which is harder to do than writing a pure erotica or action novel. The key point and most important skill needed is… respect.

I mean respect for what your character is supposed to be without going headfirst into making your character a deviant. Shirou having his ‘fun time’ was alright because he usually did that stuff in short bursts in the name of ’magic logic’.

But stopped and got serious.

It may sound easy, but the genre of a fiction takes an affect of what character’s do, which can end up ruining their character development at times. Of course, this is just sometimes.

What I mean is that having the resources doesn’t really make an higher quality novel. It’s mindset.

My original novel I wanted to make it a visual novel. It was a nightmare to write, having to find all the best resources I could, music, art, everything freehand. But the hardest part is how limiting it is in terms of writing the environment. The most important part of a visual novel is the dialogue. But how to write moderately complex action scenes in a short form.

I ended up leaving the project aside to dedicate myself to writing it as a novel and the truth is that I felt much freer. Now I could write about any part of the world, I could write the characters as I wanted and as long as I wanted. Complete chapters where no one says a single word because they are action-packed situations where a second is the difference between life or death.

I'm not saying it's impossible to do. I'm just saying that in the time you dedicate to make a visual novel you can easily write three written novels. Or in my case dedicate all that to write just one and fine tune each and every detail in a meticulous way.

I have a friend trying to get a Visual Novel done, and I can attest that all these points are valid.

A linear storyline is easy, but a VN requires you to have an understanding of the details you’re giving your audience and what you’re not. This is easier in the linearity of a Kinetic Novel, but still doesn’t change that you need to sync written words with dialogue, music, sound effects, etc.

No matter how hard you try, the effort put in will always outweigh the product that comes out.

@newage23, though what you said might work out, this had more complexity than converting a good adult novel into a good adult game. The amount of time and resources needed just isn’t worth it… unless this is a passion project.

if so, then you do you.
Lacklustre erotica writers get lost in how ‘adult’ their characters are, while those who want to be remembered treat their characters as adults. Not the manifestation of ‘adult’ desires in characters.

This may sound hard to grasp, but if you’ve read a novel that has a lot of adult scenes, but with each one shaking up the status quo even by a small margin, then you’ve read a good adult novel.

Especially if shaking up the status quo has given new avenues for the characters to express themselves. Being a source of drama, tension, conflict, and so on…

It’s all up to you in the end of the day.

 

[Zirrboy]

Erotica that’s enjoyable and above the base quality of two people rubbing against each other while moaning is hard. There’s a lot of erotic visual novels out there, but I here are only some remembered by the community.

Even the original Fate/Stay Night was filled with plot and character before you got to the tiddy scenes, which is harder to do than writing a pure erotica or action novel. The key point and most important skill needed is… respect.

I mean respect for what your character is supposed to be without going headfirst into making your character a deviant. Shirou having his ‘fun time’ was alright because he usually did that stuff in short bursts in the name of ’magic logic’.

But stopped and got serious.

It may sound easy, but the genre of a fiction takes an affect of what character’s do, which can end up ruining their character development at times. Of course, this is just sometimes.

What I mean is that having the resources doesn’t really make an higher quality novel. It’s mindset.

Imo you need love interests with likeable attributes, a protagonist the reader can identify with and sufficiently believable circumstances for them to end up shagging. Those are matters of preference. "Not a deviant" would be one of them. The next person might scream in agony at a "passive goody two shoes".

I'm talking about the porn aspect, so a story to fit it into would indeed be an additional task, but "enjoyable" was supposed to mean just that.
Fun to try for a while. Not memorable or hugely popular.

 

[Love4NovelGuy]

Imo you need love interests with likeable attributes, a protagonist the reader can identify with and sufficiently believable circumstances for them to end up shagging. Those are matters of preference. "Not a deviant" would be one of them. The next person might scream in agony at a "passive goody two shoes".

I'm talking about the porn aspect, so a story to fit it into would indeed be an additional task, but "enjoyable" was supposed to mean just that.
Fun to try for a while. Not memorable or hugely popular.

Oh, I get what you mean now. I guess it was me who assumed some writers tend to write archetypes rather than characters, going straight for a ‘scene’ rather than a ‘story with that scene in it’. There are some writers who just get too focused on one thing and forget everything else. Which is why I found the initial comment lacking, because the post creator might read to deep and fixate too much.

but I guess that’s just my opinion. Anyone who reads comments without overthinking probably should likely get what you mean.

 

[newage23]

I also agree that it would still be a pain in the ass to make a kinetic novel in renpy with all audio/image/script setup, but what about twine?

It is way easy to make a kinetic novel in twine and all you need to make the game feel like more interactive by making the last line of a chapter clickable which then leads to next chapter.

To simplify lets say you write 10-30 chapters per month, so when you are free just copy paste the chapters into twine flow chart where end of the line in each chapter leads to next chapter.I believe it could be done within half an hour without art/audio.The game made like this will be simple but if your chapters have a engaging smut content , i guess most wont care about not having video/art.

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