Recommendations Chinese Fantasy Novels Without Nationalism

[Deleted member 25151]

I can accept mild nationalism. As long as, there is no racism.

 

[BenJepheneT]

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[gaylolis]

tiananmen square massacre 1989

 

[Assurbanipal_II]

We all know they are Nationalists and they want to take revenge on us westerners.

 

[Poleg]

The title says it all

Impossible to exist. Winni the Pooh will Zucc it off the Internet.

 

[Suryae]

uhh, Journey to the West?

Probably not a novel while still have an element of nationalism, so probably none.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I don't remember seeing nationalism in Release that Witch. NEET Receives a Dating Sim Game Leveling System got discontinued, and I think one of the major problems was that the main antagonist was hinted to be China. I think cultivation novels without the transmigration doesn't have the nationalism because everyone in the said novels Chinese.

 

[BenJepheneT]

uhh, Journey to the West?

Probably not a novel while still have an element of nationalism, so probably none.

China didn't even exist by then. Though if you wanna see simping for the Qing Dynasty you could prolly find it

 

[Deleted member 25151]

Impossible to exist. Winni the Pooh will Zucc it off the Internet.

Yes, I have read RTW and Neet Receives a Dating System. Basically, most of the Chinese novels that I have read without nationalism would be.
LOTM
CCG
Quanzi Fashi(Still haven't read very far

Is there any more?

 

[Ral]

Why not just read fantasy novels that aren't Chinese?

 

[BenJepheneT]

Why not just read fantasy novels that aren't Chinese?

Because we want to read Chinese fantasy novels

 

[ConTroll]

'Release That Witch' is a good novel about kingdom building, war strategy, and plenty of fantasy and science mixed-in.

If there were any elements of Chinese nationalism involved in the plot, it was either cleverly hidden or I didn't notice.

It also doesn't have your stereotypical ruthless male MC.

 

[Ral]

Because we want to read Chinese fantasy novels

Then just accept that nationalism would be part of it. Don't read one and expect otherwise.

 

[BenJepheneT]

Then just accept that nationalism would be part of it. Don't read one and expect otherwise.

But I want to read one without nationalism. Hence why we're asking.

 

[Discount_Blade]

I still snort and giggle thinking about the one time I spoke to Chinese exchange students at my uni. They told me their version of the events between the west and the Qing Dynasty. Let's just say a lot of their shit and our shit doesn't add up. Somebody is lying like hell. Or both sides are.

Also, their concept of "The Great Humiliation" as they call it, has got to be some of the most arrogant pro-Chinese proganda I've ever heard regarding nationalism. I swear it's like they believe the Chinese are "the chosen ones" to inherit the entire planet and the West is just an eyesore slowing them down. That and to listen to them talk about India, it's similar to hearing a South Korean talk about North Korea. Chinese I've heard almost seem to hate India as bad as they hate Taiwan. Goddamn if they ever had their own version of Hitler (Mao Zedong doesn't count since he was only interested in China itself so he would be closer to Stalin than Hitler), that guy would make the actual Hitler seem more like Po from the Teletubbies.

I can remember those exchange students bragging about their homeland and how the "Middle Kingdom" was the superior land of the world. They weren't too happy with me when I pointed out that China has spent nearly half, or exactly half of its entire existence under foreign occupation, and often getting its ass kicked in battle by armies half or less than half of its size. Then they mentioned America and Vietnam in response and it just became an amusing back and forth. It was kind of fun to rag on eachother's countries. They have some peculiar ideas about Capitalism too, not that I care one fig either way. They saw Capitalism as some weird mutant variant of Socialism. I disagreed with that but I wasn't knowledgable enough on the subject to explain why I disagreed so I just shrugged on that.

Then they invited me to drink sake with them. Then I introduced them to Corona with Lime. The rest of the night was an enjoyable blur. I was kinda sad to see them go back home when they did.

 

[Ral]

But I want to read one without nationalism. Hence why we're asking.

It is their shtick, pretty much like the cultural appropriation with Americans. They are pretty much in every story. Chinese novels are defined by them. Sure some are more subtle about it compared to the more overt and hostile ones (which are often the more popular one because that is what these Chinese people likes) but they are always there.

Maybe there is some Chinese writer out there that writes a Chinese novel that doesn't pander to their Chinese audience but I don't think it will be popular and I don't think there are translators willing to find them and translate them.

This is pretty much like those people complaining about harems or boy-love and what not. There is a clear indication (tags and whatnot) that these stories would contain elements you would not like, so why did you still read them and complain afterwards?

 

[BenJepheneT]

It is their shtick, pretty much like the cultural appropriation with Americans. They are pretty much in every story. Chinese novels are defined by them. Sure some are more subtle about it compared to the more overt and hostile ones (which are often the more popular one because that is what these Chinese people likes) but they are always there.

Maybe there is some Chinese writer out there that writes a Chinese novel that doesn't pander to their Chinese audience but I don't think it will be popular and I don't think there are translators willing to find them and translate them.

This is pretty much like those people complaining about harems or boy-love and what not. There is a clear indication (tags and whatnot) that these stories would contain elements you would not like, so why did you still read them and complain afterwards?

Because I want and I can and I will

 

[RepresentingWrath]

It is their shtick, pretty much like the cultural appropriation with Americans. They are pretty much in every story. Chinese novels are defined by them. Sure some are more subtle about it compared to the more overt and hostile ones (which are often the more popular one because that is what these Chinese people likes) but they are always there.

Maybe there is some Chinese writer out there that writes a Chinese novel that doesn't pander to their Chinese audience but I don't think it will be popular and I don't think there are translators willing to find them and translate them.

This is pretty much like those people complaining about harems or boy-love and what not. There is a clear indication (tags and whatnot) that these stories would contain elements you would not like, so why did you still read them and complain afterwards?

I agree that the overwhelming majority of Chinese novels have nationalism. However, there is always an exception to any rule. You said it yourself, maybe there are such novels, without nationalism. It's not complaining, it's asking to show and share those exceptions.

 

[The_LivingLegend]

Heres the oposite of what you wanted, a novel with the most racism and nationalism that I have read:
Legend of the Mythological Genes

 

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