Body, Mind and Energy and their respective stats

[NotaNuffian]

So human needs all three (Body, Mind, Spirit) to be whole and unlike in LitRPG where one can min max, bringing up one part requires carrying the other two. The Body portion might be easy to increase but the other two parts will limit it if both are too low.

Body refers to the physical body, Mind refers to the mental capacity and Energy is messy as it not only counts in the calories to move the body and keep vitals functioning, but also otherworldly powers such as firing fireballs either via magic or bodily mutation or through "mind magic".

I became dellusional again and wanting to assign LitRPG stats into the trio.

Body is covered by Strength, Dexterity and Constitution.

Mind is covered by Perception, Intelligence and Wisdom

Energy is covered by Stamina, Inner Qi and Mana... I am BSing Inner Qi and Mana but bear with me.

The Body stats are easy to explain, Strength for overall carrying and exertion capacity, Dexterity for agility, nimbleness and overall flexibility and Constitution for how much punishment a body can take.

The Mind stats are about using the senses (Perception), gaining knowledge and experience (Intelligence) and having insight on the things (Wisdom)

The Energy stats are something hard for me to explain. ATP for healthy and working cells? Calories as fuel to allow strenuous activities? These two could be under Stamina. Then there is Qi and Mana, both actually referring to the same thing but somehow became so deviated that I can't wrap my head around. Both Qi and Mana allows inhuman abilities, with Qi more focusing on reinforcing the Body with Aura Armor or Sword Wave Slash that can't extend out of the Body for more than three meters (less than ten feet) whereas Mana can leave the Body and use to cast spells in talismans or scrolls or straight up draw circles in the air.

Also, the three stats in their individual part will also affect one another.

A negative influence is the increase in Strength and or Constitution might lead to cap in increase in Dexterity and vice versa.

A positive influence is how increasing in Perception and Intelligence will give rise to Wisdom passively.

 

[Cipiteca396]

I still haven't fully figured this out for my story, but here's a rough explanation of what I use.

Spoiler

	Body	Heart	Mind	Spirit
Power	Strength	Charisma	Intelligence	Fate
Speed	Dexterity	?	Alacrity	Luck
Endurance	Constitution	Serenity	Fortitude	Willpower
Resource	Stamina/HP	Mana	Mental Energy	(Faith)?

Some things are created by combining others together. "Qi" Would be something like using spiritual energy (faith?) to manipulate the body.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I still haven't fully figured this out for my story, but here's a rough explanation of what I use.

Spoiler

	Body	Heart	Mind	Spirit
Power	Strength	Charisma	Intelligence	Fate
Speed	Dexterity	?	Alacrity	Luck
Endurance	Constitution	Serenity	Fortitude	Willpower
Resource	Stamina/HP	Mana	Mental Energy	(Faith)?

Some things are created by combining others together. "Qi" Would be something like using spiritual energy (faith?) to manipulate the body.

You put positivity in Mind x Speed

For Heart x Speed, how about ADHD or Lust?

Also, thank you for reminding me that I had forgotten Faith or at the very least, forget to mention that I had lump Faith with Mana together because they are Outside the Body Miracles.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Back when I first got into Role Playing Games, I came up with a system where you had four"core stats" and from each of them developed the twelve "actual" stats.
I believe I had:
Physique

• Strength, - lifting capacity and ability to damage things
• Constitution - general health, resistance to illness, healing factor, main factor in Health Rating
• Stamina - ability to maintain sustained actions and go without rest, ability to ignore injuries - third main factor in Health Rating (hit points)

Maneuvering

• Agility - main defensive trait and overall athleticism
• Dexterity - hand eye coordination, primary factor for determining ability to hit in combat
• Physical Speed - both movement speed and order of actions/initiative

Mind

• Intellect - one of three factors determining the number of skill points a character starts with (high Intellect and low overall stat points both gave skill points)
• Willpower - ability to resist mental attacks; if I'd known about it at the time this would have been half of "Chi" as well, but I discovered that concept about two years after I gave up on developing this idea.
• Mental Speed - order of actions for mental combat and speed of figuring out puzzles, etc.

Personality

• Presence - ability to influence others through actions (including giving speeches, etc.)
• Psyche - ability to access psychic powers - would have been the other half of "Chi"; also the fourth factor in determining Health.
• Attractiveness - what it says; influences reactions

Each block was rolled on 5d4, but each actual stat was assigned a score from 3 to 18 and the total could not go over 3x the block rating.
Yeah, I overcomplicated it a bit... :D

 

[RiceballWasTaken]

So human needs all three (Body, Mind, Spirit) to be whole and unlike in LitRPG where one can min max, bringing up one part requires carrying the other two. The Body portion might be easy to increase but the other two parts will limit it if both are too low.

Body refers to the physical body, Mind refers to the mental capacity and Energy is messy as it not only counts in the calories to move the body and keep vitals functioning, but also otherworldly powers such as firing fireballs either via magic or bodily mutation or through "mind magic".

I became dellusional again and wanting to assign LitRPG stats into the trio.

Body is covered by Strength, Dexterity and Constitution.

Mind is covered by Perception, Intelligence and Wisdom

Energy is covered by Stamina, Inner Qi and Mana... I am BSing Inner Qi and Mana but bear with me.

The Body stats are easy to explain, Strength for overall carrying and exertion capacity, Dexterity for agility, nimbleness and overall flexibility and Constitution for how much punishment a body can take.

The Mind stats are about using the senses (Perception), gaining knowledge and experience (Intelligence) and having insight on the things (Wisdom)

The Energy stats are something hard for me to explain. ATP for healthy and working cells? Calories as fuel to allow strenuous activities? These two could be under Stamina. Then there is Qi and Mana, both actually referring to the same thing but somehow became so deviated that I can't wrap my head around. Both Qi and Mana allows inhuman abilities, with Qi more focusing on reinforcing the Body with Aura Armor or Sword Wave Slash that can't extend out of the Body for more than three meters (less than ten feet) whereas Mana can leave the Body and use to cast spells in talismans or scrolls or straight up draw circles in the air.

Also, the three stats in their individual part will also affect one another.

A negative influence is the increase in Strength and or Constitution might lead to cap in increase in Dexterity and vice versa.

A positive influence is how increasing in Perception and Intelligence will give rise to Wisdom passively.

I think I read one with mind body energy as stats before

 

[laccoff_mawning]

You've opened with talking about body, mind and spirit, but spirit =/= energy. Correct me if i'm wrong, but currently, body and energy are both referring to the physical, while mind is referring to the... mental. By your description of inner qi and mana, I'd argue you could call both of these physical quantities since theycause physical phenomenon. You could also opt to call them non-physical, but then "energy" would cover both physical and non-physical.

For example, you would expect stamina and constitution to be related, right? That isn't necessarily a bad thing, though; It sounds like you want them to be lined in some regards.

With that in mind, one possibility might be to split energy between the two topics, having a "physical energy" and "mental energy" catagory.

Going along with this, you could have things like "metabolism" or "absorption", which are about how efficient you can harness/convert your energy. For simplicity, I'm going to call inner qi phyiscal and mana mental.

So physical energy might have things like:
- stamina (physical energy limit)
- inner qi (qi energy limit)
- metabolism (conversion between physical energy and qi or something)

And mental energy might have something like:
- focus (mental energy limit?)
- mana (magic energy limit or something.)
- absorption (using your focus to convert external energy to mana or something?)

Otherwise, if you want to keep with the body-mind-spirit idea, you'd probably want "energy" to be one of the attributes in spirit, rather than the entire thing. So Spirit would contain something like:
-energy
-fortitude
-resolve

Where energy is about any form of energy the body contains, fortitude would be about how much punishment the mind can take, and resolve is how determined you can become.

(Also, @Cipiteca396 , for speed x heart, what about empathy? Something along the lines of how fast your heart moves towards a cause, or how quick you are to understand something emotionally)

 

[NotaNuffian]

You've opened with talking about body, mind and spirit, but spirit =/= energy. Correct me if i'm wrong, but currently, body and energy are both referring to the physical, while mind is referring to the... mental. By your description of inner qi and mana, I'd argue you could call both of these physical quantities since theycause physical phenomenon. You could also opt to call them non-physical, but then "energy" would cover both physical and non-physical.

For example, you would expect stamina and constitution to be related, right? That isn't necessarily a bad thing, though; It sounds like you want them to be lined in some regards.

With that in mind, one possibility might be to split energy between the two topics, having a "physical energy" and "mental energy" catagory.

Going along with this, you could have things like "metabolism" or "absorption", which are about how efficient you can harness/convert your energy. For simplicity, I'm going to call inner qi phyiscal and mana mental.

So physical energy might have things like:
- stamina (physical energy limit)
- inner qi (qi energy limit)
- metabolism (conversion between physical energy and qi or something)

And mental energy might have something like:
- focus (mental energy limit?)
- mana (magic energy limit or something.)
- absorption (using your focus to convert external energy to mana or something?)

Otherwise, if you want to keep with the body-mind-spirit idea, you'd probably want "energy" to be one of the attributes in spirit, rather than the entire thing. So Spirit would contain something like:
-energy
-fortitude
-resolve

Where energy is about any form of energy the body contains, fortitude would be about how much punishment the mind can take, and resolve is how determined you can become.

(Also, @Cipiteca396 , for speed x heart, what about empathy? Something along the lines of how fast your heart moves towards a cause, or how quick you are to understand something emotionally)

My bad, I had been using the 精气神 (Essense, Qi and Spirit, Three Treasures) model and Qi is something I am having difficulty to grasp.

You are right on the portion which I totally mislabelled Mind and its stat by forgetting a stat that is fuel for the part.

From my standpoint, Body draws from Energy to move and live. Mind itself is another can of worm but should have its own fueltank.

Yeah, this is why I don't want to gamify the human body.

 

[laccoff_mawning]

My bad, I had been using the 精气神 (Essense, Qi and Spirit, Three Treasures) model and Qi is something I am having difficulty to grasp.

So in your model, body = essence, mind = spirit, and qi = energy?

 

[NotaNuffian]

So in your model, body = essence, mind = spirit, and qi = energy?

Yes.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

Wouldn't there be by default some system of equations governing the three treasures?
Something like when one rises, the other two rise, but pulling one up alone gives diminishing returns.

 

[lirvothethird]

If I grouped it, (I'm replacing inner qi with spirit(mental energy), mana with energy) it would be kinda like this:
Red: Strength, Constitution, Stamina
Green: Dexterity, Perception, Spirit
Blue: Intelligence, Wisdom, Energy/Mana

Body: Strength, Constitution, Dexterity
Mind: Perception, Intelligence, Wisdom
Energy: Stamina, Spirit, Energy/Mana

The colors are the ones related to each other and the body mind energy is the classification. Qi would be considered an energy type, replacing mana in different settings.