As a clone, would you betray yourself?

Betray?

  • Ya

    Votes: 6 20.7%
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NotaNuffian

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Might be overthinking too much on this, but here's my question, would you betray "yourself"?

Picture this, one day, you got isekaied to a fantasy world. ROB gave you the power to clone yourself. But said power is mischievous as said clones have your exact memories up until the point of cloning and they themselves without the power to clone as they are the sub while you are the main. You also don't have the ability to bodysurf and you and the clone is only vaguely linked via emotion, not memories and perspectives.

Power doesn't transfer to sub upon main's death.

Then suddenly, you woke up and found yourself standing next to an identical you. And you just discovered that you don't have the cloning cheat...
 
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An interesting question

hmmm... I often think about it...

would I sacrifice myself for "myself"...
 

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Well, I'm certainly not gonna be my own servant, but I wouldn't try to kill me, either. And I wouldn't be using the power thinking of my clones as expendable. A clone is somewhere between a second self, and an identical twin. To be respected as their own individual when they wish for it to be so, but otherwise work as a piece in a collective.

I would use my power once, at first, to create a clone to be my companion to help assuage loneliness. And if, as is often the case in these isekai scenarios, I was forced into a life of violence and combat, I would train to a certain standard, then create clones, and each one of us would specialize in a different role as we work together in a group, while the me with the cloning power trains to work as a jack of all trades with an emphasis on combat skill, so in an emergency, can create assistants for any role, or an emergency instant mercenary band.

That said, given the chance, I imagine the band would dissolve, probably constantly losing members wherever there's a chance to leave that life. The core group might stay together? Maybe we'd fully commit to a mercenary band. The band leadership would either be pure democracy, or would be led by a council of the first members, but any member would be welcome to posit ideas and provide input. The one with the clone power would be the band's most valuable asset, and thus would probably be kept out of danger as much as possible, but wouldn't necessarily be the de-facto leader.
 

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Doesn't sound like a power that would be useful very often. As a clone, I would know exactly why I needed two people and immediately cooperate on whatever project that is with the 'not me anymore' capable of mitosis.
 

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A clone would still be subjected to environmental exposure. Which means there could be various differences that leads to different outcomes.

In other words, there is no definite line, and the way people are developed typically comes from what their experiences are.

Though, there are a few innate traits that may retain regardless of environment.

An example is.

Say that the original lives a well off life, but the clone had to do things they dislike to survive. It would mean that there is a likelihood the clone would use the original as a survival tool.

However, some innate traits might be retained despite the environmental differences which could lead to differences in the outcomes, however slight it might be.

It is an interesting thought. In short, no one can ever be certain how a scenario will play out.

Let alone the knowledge of being a clone can create a crisis itself, hence the response is not possible to accurately determine.

You can say you would do this or that, but when put on the spot. The outcome can be vastly different from what you’d have thought initially.
 
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NotaNuffian

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An interesting question

hmmm... I often think about it...

would I sacrifice myself for "myself"...
Well, I am thinking in the Soma (the game) case, where the MC screams that the copied consciousness is not him.
Well, I'm certainly not gonna be my own servant, but I wouldn't try to kill me, either. And I wouldn't be using the power thinking of my clones as expendable. A clone is somewhere between a second self, and an identical twin. To be respected as their own individual when they wish for it to be so, but otherwise work as a piece in a collective.

I would use my power once, at first, to create a clone to be my companion to help assuage loneliness. And if, as is often the case in these isekai scenarios, I was forced into a life of violence and combat, I would train to a certain standard, then create clones, and each one of us would specialize in a different role as we work together in a group, while the me with the cloning power trains to work as a jack of all trades with an emphasis on combat skill, so in an emergency, can create assistants for any role, or an emergency instant mercenary band.

That said, given the chance, I imagine the band would dissolve, probably constantly losing members wherever there's a chance to leave that life. The core group might stay together? Maybe we'd fully commit to a mercenary band. The band leadership would either be pure democracy, or would be led by a council of the first members, but any member would be welcome to posit ideas and provide input. The one with the clone power would be the band's most valuable asset, and thus would probably be kept out of danger as much as possible, but wouldn't necessarily be the de-facto leader.
That sounds like a good idea.

Kind of like how The Alters are doing.
Why would I? I already don't have magic, so why would I get mad about not having it?
The question isn't that you getting mad that you don't have the magic.

The question is that now you are the clone. A copy of the person who you know has the ability to make more of himself (and by extension, you).
Doesn't sound like a power that would be useful very often. As a clone, I would know exactly why I needed two people and immediately cooperate on whatever project that is with the 'not me anymore' capable of mitosis.
But what about after the project ends? Would you as the clone just bugger off elsewhere? What happen if the "original" ask you to take one for the team and cripple/ die?
A clone would still be subjected to environmental exposure. Which means there could be various differences that leads to different outcomes.

In other words, there is no definite line, and the way people are developed typically comes from what their experiences are.

Though, there are a few innate traits that may retain regardless of environment.

An example is.

Say that the original lives a well off life, but the clone had to do things they dislike to survive. It would mean that there is a likelihood the clone would use the original as a survival tool.

However, some innate traits might be retained despite the environmental differences which could lead to differences in the outcomes, however slight it might be.

It is an interesting thought. In short, no one can ever be certain how a scenario will play out.

Let alone the knowledge of being a clone can create a crisis itself, hence the response is not possible to accurately determine.

You can say you would do this or that, but when put on the spot. The outcome can be vastly different from what you’d have thought initially.
Yeah, so that is why I asked.

Anyway, I went back to my writing and decided to just do a shared consciousness/ consciousness surfing crap instead of having to deal with branching BS.

The whole main sub thing will definitely end badly especially when the sub gets left behind and not terminated.
 

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Yeah, so that is why I asked.

Anyway, I went back to my writing and decided to just do a shared consciousness/ consciousness surfing crap instead of having to deal with branching BS.

The whole main sub thing will definitely end badly especially when the sub gets left behind and not terminated.
An idea is to have the two lead different lives, and show those through the past, and how it shaped their individual lives before they met.

And that being what affects their actions going forward.
 

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I would not selfcest.
An idea is to have the two lead different lives, and show those through the past, and how it shaped their individual lives before they met.

And that being what affects their actions going forward.
Possible, but the main will definitely have a better life because of the cheat while the sub, bless his heart, might grow a pair and maybe become a swordsman/ mage apprentice after the departure.
 

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Might be overthinking too much on this, but here's my question, would you betray "yourself"?

Picture this, one day, you got isekaied to a fantasy world. ROB gave you the power to clone yourself. But said power is mischievous as said clones have your exact memories up until the point of cloning and they themselves without the power to clone as they are the sub while you are the main. You also don't have the ability to bodysurf and you and the clone is only vaguely linked via emotion, not memories and perspectives.

Power doesn't transfer to sub upon main's death.

Then suddenly, you woke up and found yourself standing next to an identical you. And you just discovered that you don't have the cloning cheat...


This is a hard question. Would an 'I' like me who is into selfcest and submissive roleplay betrays other 'me' who is also into selfcest and submissive roleplay? I hope we won't be in a civil war to determine who will be the ultimate bottom.
 

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Hell nah. That's cliché as hell. We'd both probably actually get a lot more done in this symbiotic relationship because current non-clone me has too many ideas to actually focus on doing any of them.
 

NotaNuffian

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This is a hard question. Would an 'I' like me who is into selfcest and submissive roleplay betrays other 'me' who is also into selfcest and submissive roleplay? I hope we won't be in a civil war to determine who will be the ultimate bottom.
You need Jesus.

Though it is nice that you still love yourself. Just way too much.

Hell nah. That's cliché as hell. We'd both probably actually get a lot more done in this symbiotic relationship because current non-clone me has too many ideas to actually focus on doing any of them.
Cool.
 

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Might be overthinking too much on this, but here's my question, would you betray "yourself"?

Picture this, one day, you got isekaied to a fantasy world. ROB gave you the power to clone yourself. But said power is mischievous as said clones have your exact memories up until the point of cloning and they themselves without the power to clone as they are the sub while you are the main. You also don't have the ability to bodysurf and you and the clone is only vaguely linked via emotion, not memories and perspectives.

Power doesn't transfer to sub upon main's death.

Then suddenly, you woke up and found yourself standing next to an identical you. And you just discovered that you don't have the cloning cheat...
Would I betray myself? Nope.

Why because I would at the start consider myself as an extension of myself like an arm, it isn't until later (if I survive that long) when I start to get differing experience would I then consider myself to be an individual and in doing so start to prioritize my own safety. Of course if I am cloned then one of my end goals would be to somehow get my memories back into my original self so it wouldn't do to betray the one with the means to create more me that could further help reach that goal.
 

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I would not selfcest.
 
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Ironic, almost everyone says "NO".
But, you lot been betraying yourselves since you were born. Nope. Dont say anything. I know, you know, I know that you know, and you know that I know that you know.
You have betrayed your self once and again, and that "No" is just another treason on yourself, becouse you are afraid to tell the truth.
Imagine how much stuff I could do if there were two of me...

...I could procrastinate twice as much as I do now...
He is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer fu**ing lazynes.
 
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