AI opinion

[Zadd]

So! I’ve noticed many have a really bad opinion on using AI while writting a book. Wich I can deffenitively understand to some extent, but here is my question do you guys feel like it shouldn’t be used at all or should be used with moderation.

I have read some story that were really frustrating because AI were used to much and there are to many repetition. Some Time it just make everything seem complicated for nothing and more…

Still, some people do manage to create food story and I mean if its on scribble hub, many aren’t getting paid anyway…

Second option, what are your opinion on using it simply to help like editing or ideas or more?

(Sorry for all the mistake I made writting this I’m doing this while walking ?)

 

[Racosharko]

I dont see the benefit of using it.

 

[Valmond]

That’s up to you. However, the purpose is to also improve yourself over time. Critically looking at your work, and identifying the problems yourself to be able to more effectively tackle the problem areas.

Writing is to pursue constant self improvement, and as a result. By gaining that experience, you are able to more effectively transition your story onto another person’s understanding.

Though, I really don’t see issue with using it for editing or getting ideas.

However, I advise doing the editing yourself. Since that as well translates to self improvement.

There are no shortcuts, in the end. To improve and better translate the story to another person, you’ll be in it for the long run, taking loss after loss.

 

[Tyranomaster]

If the words the AI wrote end up on the page, then you aren't writing. Further, it makes you a reader. If you want to ask questions or bounce ideas off AI, fine, but don't use it to write. If you want a grammar and spell checker, use grammarly.

 

[Zadd]

That’s up to you. However, the purpose is to also improve yourself over time. Critically looking at your work, and identifying the problems yourself to be able to more effectively tackle the problem areas.

Writing is to pursue constant self improvement, and as a result. By gaining that experience, you are able to more effectively transition your story onto another person’s understanding.

Though, I really don’t see issue with using it for editing or getting ideas.

However, I advise doing the editing yourself. Since that as well translates to self improvement.

There are no shortcuts, in the end. To improve and better translate the story to another person, you’ll be in it for the long run, taking loss after loss.

Hmm, that makes a lot of sence. Well just like anything you do practise is the Best teacher ?. So in the end the one doing it simply won’t get better. I see, well I only started to write for fun not long ago because I felt like I couldn’t find a story up to my taste and its pretty nice.

But from the point of an author getting better should indeed be the priority.

Then again, I guess it depend why you’re doing it. Getting better as an author and make better story along thé way or simply make a good story.

i guess my point of view is still from a reader.

thanks Valmond :)

 

[Deleted member 84247]

If the words the AI wrote end up on the page, then you aren't writing. Further, it makes you a reader. If you want to ask questions or bounce ideas off AI, fine, but don't use it to write. If you want a grammar and spell checker, use grammarly.

I wouldn't use grammarly. The quality deteriorated. If you do use it, be careful and only check the red underlines.

 

[Valmond]

Hmm, that makes a lot of sence. Well just like anything you do practise is thé Best teacher ?. So in the end thé one doing it simply won’t get better. I see, well I only started to write for fun not long ago because I felt like I couldn’t find a story up to my taste and its pretty nice.

But from thé point of an author getting better should indeed be thé priority.

Then again, I guess it depend why you’re doing it. Getting better as an author and make better story along thé way or simply make a good story.

i guess my point of view is still from a reader.

thanks Valmond :)

Allow me to tell you a bit about how I started.

First off, I do this for fun, and because I love to do it. I wouldn’t do it otherwise.

Now, when I started off. Truly started off, I could barely place a period right. I messed up everything that was grammar and then some.

I can safely say to this day, no one was worse than me when starting out.

Though, bit by bit I got better. I applied myself to learn, and I dived right in doing rewrite after rewrite. I tackled new stories, and I kept going.

Eventually I got to my current point that I can be proud of.

This was before AI blew up, before CGPT was a thing.

Back then I was very arrogant, and didn’t know a thing until I decided to buckle down and commit. I was a reader first, but I never understood the depths of what it took to actually write a story.

Self improvement became something I learned was most important. After all, I couldn’t tell the story I want to tell if I was unwilling to put in the full effort myself.

So, I am not saying this as a person who rejects AI. I am saying this as a person who knows the value of hard work, and don’t want others to shy away from getting better and telling the story they want to.

It just takes time, and it is something anyone can do.

What I am saying is. Don’t be afraid to mess up, don’t be afraid that your story might not live up to your expectations.

Learn, and rewrite it. Do it as many times as needed to be able to translate your vision. There were many times I didn’t know how to form my words, how to effectively connect scenes, and so on.

All you gotta do is keep at it bit by bit. And do not be afraid to post it, since you will be building a following over time.

I have readers that dives into each and every one of my rewrites, and have attracted many over the years.

The learning process can also help build you up while you self improve.

 

[MasterY001]

While all of you are debating whether or not AI is an acceptable tool for writing, I'd like to add that AI doesn't have a sense of humor. Personally, I like to always insert bits of comic relief to my writing. AI doesn't do that, which is why I don't use it.

 

[Valmond]

While all of you are debating whether or not AI is an acceptable tool for writing, I'd like to add that AI doesn't have a sense of humor. Personally, I like to always insert bits of comic relief to my writing. AI doesn't do that, which is why I don't use it.

No, but apparently it can write smut better than many people. When there is no smut to begin with, and nothing indicating it.

By the way, this was before all the regulations went into place. I don’t even know if it works anymore.

 

[Zadd]

I wouldn't use grammarly. The quality deteriorated. If you do use it, be careful and only check the red underlines.

I’ll be noting that thanks

Allow me to tell you a bit about how I started.

First off, I do this for fun, and because I love to do it. I wouldn’t do it otherwise.

Now, when I started off. Truly started off, I could barely place a period right. I messed up everything that was grammar and then some.

I can safely say to this day, no one was worse than me when starting out.

Though, bit by bit I got better. I applied myself to learn, and I dived right in doing rewrite after rewrite. I tackled new stories, and I kept going.

Eventually I got to my current point that I can be proud of.

This was before AI blew up, before CGPT was a thing.

Back then I was very arrogant, and didn’t know a thing until I decided to buckle down and commit. I was a reader first, but I never understood the depths of what it took to actually write a story.

Self improvement became something I learned was most important. After all, I couldn’t tell the story I want to tell if I was unwilling to put in the full effort myself.

So, I am not saying this as a person who rejects AI. I am saying this as a person who knows the value of hard work, and don’t want others to shy away from getting better and telling the story they want to.

It just takes time, and it is something anyone can do.

What I am saying is. Don’t be afraid to mess up, don’t be afraid that your story might not live up to your expectations.

Learn, and rewrite it. Do it as many times as needed to be able to translate your vision. There were many times I didn’t know how to form my words, how to effectively connect scenes, and so on.

All you gotta do is keep at it bit by bit. And do not be afraid to post it, since you will be building a following over time.

I have readers that dives into each and every one of my rewrites, and have attracted many over the years.

The learning process can also help build you up while you self improve.

thanks for taking the time to tell me this . I understand your point and yes it makes a lot of sence. It remind me of a popular speach from Tom Brady haha.

Sometime I imagine vivid scene In my minds but putting them on paper can be hard. I’m personally doing this for fun and because I LOVE story in all their forms.

Its not like I am sold AI either haha. I’m just wondering here. Thanks and I am taking notes

While all of you are debating whether or not AI is an acceptable tool for writing, I'd like to add that AI doesn't have a sense of humor. Personally, I like to always insert bits of comic relief to my writing. AI doesn't do that, which is why I don't use it.

Well, its truth it normally doesn’t but their are many way to make it.

then again I think its better to have your own jokes. It makes the story more humain and original. ?

 

[Valmond]

thanks for taking the time to tell me this . I understand your point and yes it makes a lot of sence. It remind me of a popular speach from Tom Brady haha.

Sometime I imagine vivid scene In my minds but putting them on paper can be hard. I’m personally doing this for fun and because I LOVE story in all their forms.

Its not like I am sold AI either haha. I’m just wondering here. Thanks and I am taking notes

I’m curious, what story do you have in mind?

Another thing I should mention is, don’t be afraid to ask for help, or bounce ideas off of each other. Some of my ideas came because of that.

An example? One time I was bouncing ideas off friends, and eventually I came up with pirate iguanas that got implemented into my fifth book. ?

The iguanas basically stole all the supplies on the ship.

 

[Zadd]

I’m curious, what story do you have in mind?

Another thing I should mention is, don’t be afraid to ask for help, or bounce ideas off of each other. Some of my ideas came because of that.

An example? One time I was bouncing ideas off friends, and eventually I came up with pirate iguanas that got implemented into my fifth book. ?

The iguanas basically stole all the supplies on the ship.

Hahaha, that sound like an interesting strory ?.

Indeed, idea can come from anywhere after all haha.
Well, the story I post was at first something I made for myself, but I decided to post it at some point. I mean why not its pretty fun ?.

my story is something I tough it would be nice yet couldn’t find a story I was satisfied about. Its basically a story about à guy gaining a system that will lead him to godhood along with 6 others while an apocalypse start on earth.

 

[Aiyoki]

My opinion of AI is this: Use it if you want but ultimately it isn't going to give you the stories you're hoping for and I likely will drop the read as soon as I notice that it's an AI generated story.

AI doesn't have the heart that actual human input does. Even as a new writer, you're already better than the AI you will use to write a "prompted" story.

AI in general is also notorious for infringing on other artist's works and if you ever get to a point where you actually want to sell your stories in an official published format, you'll definitely want to avoid having an AI-written novel for your finished product. AI is a great tool and helpful in many areas but art and creativity should not be one of them.

Like the others before me in this thread have said, bouncing ideas off of others when deciding on how to write your stories is a great way to come out with a story that feels more polished and involved than simply brainstorming all by yourself.

I'd say do this: Go and write your story.

Bounce the story off of other people and talk about it with them. See what they think about it. Gather notes from the feed back in both the good and bad. This might help you come up with something you hadn't thought of doing in your first second third fourth etc draft. Unless you write for a living, you will likely always find ways to improve. And remember you are most likely going to be your own worst critic but don't let that discourage you.

I'd rather read a poorly written first draft written(typed) by the hand of the creator themselves than to be punished with reading an AI created repeat story.

 

[MasterY001]

No, but apparently it can write smut better than many people. When there is no smut to begin with, and nothing indicating it.

By the way, this was before all the regulations went into place. I don’t even know if it works anymore.

That's right! Maybe next time I write a sex scene, I'll defer to the beep-boop box.

Also "pirate iguanas"? What the shit?

 

[BigBadBoi]

AI purely for grammar is fine but if you're using it to write for you then there's no point in writing. AIslop writing is heavily used for emails and documents(aka soulless) and that's not fun to read. I'd rather read 1000 word chapters xianxia slop with 10 chapters back to back copypaste POV reactions glazing the MC harder than me glazing a touhou figurine than AIslop.

 

[MajorKerina]

I don't think a starting or inexperienced writer should use AI.

I use DeepL to give me ideas for how to more clearly phrase things or if I want to get rid of bad errors but the writing choices should come down to the writer.

That said, AI can be very good and emotional with supervision. I used an AI writer for one of the most emotional scenes I ever wrote. It came up with unique emotional references, allusions, and phrasings but it's holistic comprehension is bad but if you direct it in short bursts it can do very amazing things.

It's just a tool to be used for writing, not a writer itself.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

First it depends on what you define as AI - some consider grammar and spell-checking to be a form of AI (in the newest versions it comes close). Others only consider AI to be the part that writes or edits sections of text for the user.
In my opinion, if you do more than use AI to translate passages, check spelling and suggest grammar corrections, you should list the software as a co-author or collaborator rather than claiming it as your own work.

 

[Y2N1]

All I can say is that I was able to enjoy writing because of AI. Having zero knowledge to basics of writing, AI was able to help me in improving my writing.

Right now, I am able to write without much problem compared to my early days. Still on the weaker side, but I'm learning a lot. I use it for grammar checking to cover for my lack of grammar skills.

Most importantly, I think I'm confident that I will be able to complete a story because of it.

 

[Indicterra]

I currently use AI for reasearch purposes on story bruv.

For example how to realistically approach am Element that can change its nature,

How to realistically approach creation of fission reactor

How to realistically approach manufacturing guns.

If it was before, i wouldn't have done it cause reasearch of such things would take time and effort which wasn't worth the effort for such small things that wasn't important to story, or just slap magic in it as excuse and be done with it.

Now it is easy, since AI can do that for us, summarise things, and even advice on how to approach it. I think such things are net beneficial

 

[Corty]

Using AI is as nuanced as anything else in life. If you prompt the AI and just copy-paste it, then you are going to end up in hell. If you let it write the story for you, you are going to hell. It you use it to anything else, meh, who cares. Its a tool.