A world without "ordinary" human

[NotaNuffian]

This might be odd, but when I look at X-Men, Mahouka and Iris Zero and the constant theme about normals versus empowered, I actually ask myself, what happens when there aren't any normals aka no-power anymore?

Then I recall Black Clover where MC is constantly mocked for having no power but that is not what I want.

i understand that standards can change and the case will always be weak = normal and therefore even if the humans are born with weak superpowers, they will still get trampled upon and those that are weak will redirect their anger at those unfortunately born without powers.

 

[AwakenFreddy]

Probably the bar what is below average is different. But theres always someone below average
Honestly though human will be just human, the strong always/most of the time trample the weak. Whether its magical world or not.
Look at child, most of the time what consider power is physical power. And look at corporate or gov, what consider power is authorities power.

 

[Kenjona]

I think it would bog down to the haves and have less, depending on how people accrued their power sets. You know, just what we have now but with more obvious differences between people.

If you can pass on your traits to your kids, then you would have family "dynasty's", which might form ruling or semi ruling dynastic houses like the Grimaldi, Glucksberg, Hapsburg, Windsor, Bernadotte, Chakri, Pandya and the Topou.

If the super power ability and its strength and/or usefulness is random, then it will be more like the USA, less generational wealth/power overall, though some still there, but getting weak within a generation or two. Constant turn over in the power dynamic as others with powers come of age and others die off. Trumps, Fuggers, Kennedy, Vanderbilts and so on.

Some power usage could be "verboten", I could see institutions with kill on sighting orders for selected powers, our usage of those powers. Or very restricted usage of said powers. I am reading a decent one right now that seems to have nearly this, in a manner, though they have normal people in that story.

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[RepresentingDesire]

This might be odd, but when I look at X-Men, Mahouka and Iris Zero and the constant theme about normals versus empowered, I actually ask myself, what happens when there aren't any normals aka no-power anymore?

Then I recall Black Clover where MC is constantly mocked for having no power but that is not what I want.

i understand that standards can change and the case will always be weak = normal and therefore even if the humans are born with weak superpowers, they will still get trampled upon and those that are weak will redirect their anger at those unfortunately born without powers.

The normal is the average, if most of humanity had adhs it would be considered neurotypical and all that are without adhs will be considered mentally ill, neurodivergent. The same would be true for a world with only superpowered humans, those without superpowers would be the strange myths, if those myth will be feared, hated or worship will be decided by the local culture. Black Clover would be an example and if you think that's horrible just imagine what would happen to those without superpowers in cultures where its a crime.

 

[Bartun]

Humans are fascinating creatures and are capable of overcoming pretty much anything. Just throw some great calamity at them and they will grow stronger. Humans have wiped out from the face of the Earth predators that were far larger and stronger than them.

Let's say they find some magical enemy that surpasses them in power. Chances are they will soon develop some anti-magic armor. And if they themselves are incapable of magic, that will only press them into developing weapons like guns.

Just imagine the most powerful, dangerous, and fearsome magical entity in fantasy. Humans, when push comes to shove, and even without magic, can be far more dangerous.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

MHA?

 

[Hairelessmat]

This might be odd, but when I look at X-Men, Mahouka and Iris Zero and the constant theme about normals versus empowered, I actually ask myself, what happens when there aren't any normals aka no-power anymore?

Then I recall Black Clover where MC is constantly mocked for having no power but that is not what I want.

i understand that standards can change and the case will always be weak = normal and therefore even if the humans are born with weak superpowers, they will still get trampled upon and those that are weak will redirect their anger at those unfortunately born without powers.

Considering how the quirkless are treated in MHA, it makes sense, if everyone had superpowers, people who didn't would be considered weak, useless, and a waste to society. Humans would still judge others on their powers and they would be heavily regulated, because if they weren't, the world would be chaos, and there would definitely be governments/organizations that would hunt down and/or capture humans that got powers that were destructive or "out of the norm", Because if you have randomly generated powers then there can be some wacky ones out there.
The world would change, But it would still have the horrible things people do in there, and probably worse,
I hope my opinion on this matter helps you answer some of you questions, Have a nice day!

 

[Racosharko]

what happens when there aren't any normals aka no-power anymore?

Culture war.

People will designate what is born "right"
and born "wrong", when right and wrong is a social construct.

Or class war.

Or both.

 

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[Spacerunner357]

This might be odd, but when I look at X-Men, Mahouka and Iris Zero and the constant theme about normals versus empowered, I actually ask myself, what happens when there aren't any normals aka no-power anymore?

Then I recall Black Clover where MC is constantly mocked for having no power but that is not what I want.

i understand that standards can change and the case will always be weak = normal and therefore even if the humans are born with weak superpowers, they will still get trampled upon and those that are weak will redirect their anger at those unfortunately born without powers.

If the place is set up correctly and how the powers work you can Avoid that

 

[M0rgana04]

If there were no 'normals,' the idea of weakness would probably shift to those with the least useful or weakest powers. Society would still reflect the same hierarchies we see today, humans always find new ways to compare and divide.

It could even turn into an endless cycle, where people with weaker powers hold onto their sense of superiority over those who are even weaker. Honestly, it feels like this just reflects human nature's tendency to create class distinctions, no matter the situation.

I think it’s possible to create a world without this problem, but it would mean reshaping what society values at its core.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I think it would bog down to the haves and have less, depending on how people accrued their power sets. You know, just what we have now but with more obvious differences between people.

If you can pass on your traits to your kids, then you would have family "dynasty's", which might form ruling or semi ruling dynastic houses like the Grimaldi, Glucksberg, Hapsburg, Windsor, Bernadotte, Chakri, Pandya and the Topou.

If the super power ability and its strength and/or usefulness is random, then it will be more like the USA, less generational wealth/power overall, though some still there, but getting weak within a generation or two. Constant turn over in the power dynamic as others with powers come of age and others die off. Trumps, Fuggers, Kennedy, Vanderbilts and so on.

Some power usage could be "verboten", I could see institutions with kill on sighting orders for selected powers, our usage of those powers. Or very restricted usage of said powers. I am reading a decent one right now that seems to have nearly this, in a manner, though they have normal people in that story.

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Had to add that the first seven chapters which I quickly skimmed through didn't made me want to read it further.

First chapter had MC botched the transaction, nearly ended up screwing himself.

At chapter five, his refusal to kill is... I would say praiseworthy out of sarcasm.

The entire world runs on cartal system and he afforded to be nice.

 

[Kenjona]

Had to add that the first seven chapters which I quickly skimmed through didn't made me want to read it further.

First chapter had MC botched the transaction, nearly ended up screwing himself.

At chapter five, his refusal to kill is... I would say praiseworthy out of sarcasm.

The entire world runs on cartal system and he afforded to be nice.

I had to keep making sure in my mind this is a kid, not an adult. for those self same chapters. But yes, the start is rougher then I liked. I read it because it is different in many ways compared to other super hero genres.
Either way I was using it as an example of what someone has done in the idea you were discussing.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I had to keep making sure in my mind this is a kid, not an adult. for those self same chapters. But yes, the start is rougher then I liked. I read it because it is different in many ways compared to other super hero genres.
Either way I was using it as an example of what someone has done in the idea you were discussing.

Yes I can see the oppression.

So the more things change the more they stay the same.

 

[Kenjona]

Yes I can see the oppression.

So the more things change the more they stay the same.

Well, yes. We have had a few thousands of years of learning that. While there have been cultural improvements, it is like 2 steps forward and 1 and a half back.