A succubus that is also Christian?

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How would people feel about a story of a succubus who loves Jesus Christ? Like she’s as close to a total nun as she can be and she’s as holy as a demon could ever be?
 

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In Christianity, demons absolutely know Christ is real. They served Him at one point. However, since they're demons, this means they have since betrayed Him in favor of serving Lucifer, now satan. A demon loving Christ would make no sense. There's no theology supporting that demons can ever be forgiven for their betrayal, and they fear Christ. When Christ approached Legion, Legion reacted with fear and begged Christ only to cast Him out. Also Christianity is for humanity. It is stated Christ died for the sins of man, not demons, so a demon couldn't go the route we go.

This concept makes absolutely no sense from the get go. Most importantly...why? It isn't an interesting concept, it's just plain stupid.
 
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Try it with genderbended Jesus Christ.
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In Christianity, demons absolutely know Christ is real. They served Him at one point. However, since they're demons, this means they have since betrayed Him in favor of serving Lucifer, now satan. A demon loving Christ would make no sense. There's no theology supporting that demons can ever be forgiven for their betrayal, and they fear Christ. When Christ approached Legion, Legion reacted with fear and begged Christ only to cast Him out. Also Christianity is for humanity. It is stated Christ died for the sins of man, not demons, so a demon couldn't go the route we go.

This concept makes absolutely no sense from the get go. Most importantly...why? It isn't an interesting concept, it's just plain stupid.
Thank you for the clarity, but if a demon genuinely wanted forgiveness, is there really no way that they could attempt to get it?
 

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Thank you for the clarity, but if a demon genuinely wanted forgiveness, is there really no way that they could attempt to get it?
 

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Sorry. The serious answer is that religion is very black and white. Demons are evil. They'll never ever want forgiveness. If they wanted forgiveness, they wouldn't be a demon.

If you want to write a religious demon, it can't be with the Christian religion. You'd have to alter it, or make a new one.
 

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Sorry. The serious answer is that religion is very black and white. Demons are evil. They'll never ever want forgiveness. If they wanted forgiveness, they wouldn't be a demon.

If you want to write a religious demon, it can't be with the Christian religion. You'd have to alter it, or make a new one.
Ok thank you
 
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Depend how ur story define demon, and their origin. if it objectively evil or have corrupted force behind it or just some sort race and freedom of their own will.
 

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How would people feel about a story of a succubus who loves Jesus Christ? Like she’s as close to a total nun as she can be and she’s as holy as a demon could ever be?
As explained by previous speaker:
This concept makes absolutely no sense from the get go.

Also additionally to religious reasons your concept is self contradictory.
Succubi gain their sustenance by performing sexual acts on random men.
A Jesus loving woman would never be so wanton.

That means that either your MC doesn't really wants forgiveness.
Or that she will die of hunger in few days. And you are writing a snuff story about how slow and painful death from hunger is.
In story like that there is no place for Jesus.


If you really want to have not-evil succubus ...
... I'll spoiler story that I'm just writing for you.

My story is set in Fantasy VR game. Fantasy = no Christianity an its consequences.
MC is designing a Companion NPC for himself to have a pocket healer.
Being horny young man he wants her to be as sexy as possible so he decides that she will be a Succubus.
But Succubi as all demons are evil and because that they have no access to Holy Magic.
So he changes her alignment from evil to good drops some of her demonic powers and game allows him to give to her access to Holy Magic.
That way we have in the story a Succubus that is not only not evil but connected to the good religion of the world.
And a field to write about her conflict in maintaining balance between needs of her body and her alignment.

Hope that helps.

Thank you for the clarity, but if a demon genuinely wanted forgiveness, is there really no way that they could attempt to get it?
if Christianity is involved:

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How would people feel about a story of a succubus who loves Jesus Christ? Like she’s as close to a total nun as she can be and she’s as holy as a demon could ever be?
So for it to fit in with actual Christianity the standard for God is 100% perfection. Demons became demons for a reason. So, nothing they could do would ever be enough to balance the scales. You'd run the risk of the story being received like "the satanic verses" by Salman Rushdie

That being said, people play around with their own version inspired by certain religious symbolism. Fall from grace from planescape torment is a good example of a celibate succubus. However, that world is much different.
 

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So for it to fit in with actual Christianity the standard for God is 100% perfection. Demons became demons for a reason. So, nothing they could do would ever be enough to balance the scales. You'd run the risk of the story being received like "the satanic verses" by Salman Rushdie

That being said, people play around with their own version inspired by certain religious symbolism. Fall from grace from planescape torment is a good example of a celibate succubus. However, that world is much different.
Ohhh, okay and thank you
 

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So for it to fit in with actual Christianity the standard for God is 100% perfection. Demons became demons for a reason. So, nothing they could do would ever be enough to balance the scales. You'd run the risk of the story being received like "the satanic verses" by Salman Rushdie

That being said, people play around with their own version inspired by certain religious symbolism. Fall from grace from planescape torment is a good example of a celibate succubus. However, that world is much different.
The angels that rebelled against God and became demons specifically did so because he ordered them to serve humans.
 

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In the traditional view of Christianity, there's no way for demons to be forgiven, and also, no Demon would also desire forgiveness. It's all black and white. Christianity, in fact, requires this good vs evil duality for it to exists. People who do not follow the religion, or who are not such close followers of the Dogmas, are capable of wondering why it would be impossible for such an existence to not want to repent.

To write your story the way you want is to forgo doing any favours to people who are deeply religious. Some might even go as far to vocally cry accusing you of heresy, considering you are trying to brand what is supposed to be the personification of Evil into something capable of looking for the light. But the idea itself is not new, just to give an example, in Demon: The Fallen, from White Wolf (And now from Paradox Gaming), you have the idea that demons could be searching for redemption.

Whatever you decide, just know that some religious people can be very vocal about their "it's impossible" since their beliefs dictate that demons would never see the wrong of their doing, or doing so would never be forgiven no matter how much they repent. In your work, you're the creator, God, so you can also dictate the rules for whichever circumstances you so decide to do. There's no need to follow something which would make your story less interesting because a few are vocal it is impossible due to X, Y, or Z. You would probably be writing fiction, and fictions is about possibilities, not about the dreary reality which readers most often are tired from and seek escape.
 
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