It's really sad that Shoujo is not getting attention anymore. Why don't you try Romance Manhwa, the Otome Isekai is quite popular these days.
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Nevafrost
My problem is that I can't read those romance mangas or watch romance animes anymore. I cringe way too much
ShrimpShady
@Pujimaki I've read some romance manhwa, but the regular modern setting ones. They can be pretty good, but they tend to drag their feet through endless epilogues once the main conflict's resolved.
Never read any of those otome isekai villainess stuff though. Fantasy/medieval settings don't really appeal to me for some reason
Never read any of those otome isekai villainess stuff though. Fantasy/medieval settings don't really appeal to me for some reason
ShrimpShady
@Nevafrost Maybe more grounded josei stuff is where it's at for you
I also tend to put down romance manga super early when they don't show signs that they're gonna go beyond the most basic tropes.
I also tend to put down romance manga super early when they don't show signs that they're gonna go beyond the most basic tropes.
Nevafrost
I hate those tsunderes. Like, tf? They are not my cup of tea.
And, those serieses where the MC is way too shy to hold hands for 3 seasons? FUCK IT. I HATE THEM
And, those serieses where the MC is way too shy to hold hands for 3 seasons? FUCK IT. I HATE THEM
Assurbanipal_II
Shoujo~!!!Yay!!! Wait a moment, are otome isekai not shoujo?
Shoujo~!!!Yay!!! Wait a moment, are otome isekai not shoujo?
ShrimpShady
@Nevafrost I hear you. Tsunderes can be done well, but it's definitely an art.
Romance fans have been seeing a trend with 2020s romance manga ditching a lot of the older cliches, including the classical tsundere and slow relationship progress. There's still a lot of slop, and many more unbearable tropes have been birthed, but I think we're in the beginnings of a renaissance
Romance fans have been seeing a trend with 2020s romance manga ditching a lot of the older cliches, including the classical tsundere and slow relationship progress. There's still a lot of slop, and many more unbearable tropes have been birthed, but I think we're in the beginnings of a renaissance
ShrimpShady
@Assurbanipal_II They can be if they're written with a young female audience in mind.
if they're written with a young female audience in mind.
Assurbanipal_II
Are they not? I am confused~. As they are a main inspiration for my writing efforts. Not otome per se. But noble girl reincarnation villainess stories~.
Are they not? I am confused~. As they are a main inspiration for my writing efforts. Not otome per se. But noble girl reincarnation villainess stories~.
ShrimpShady
AFAIK, shounen, shoujo, etc. are mostly used as demographics for manga publishers. Although there may be tropes or even stories that are more popular within a certain demographic, that also varies between works.
So noble-villainess stories can be shoujo if they run in a shoujo publication or are otherwise aimed at a younger female audience, but they can be aimed at a different demographic as well.
So noble-villainess stories can be shoujo if they run in a shoujo publication or are otherwise aimed at a younger female audience, but they can be aimed at a different demographic as well.
ShrimpShady
But in the case of webnovels, since they don't have the same kind of publishing scheme as manga, whether or not something's seen by readers as shoujo, shounen, etc. would mostly likely be based off tropes and vibes
Assurbanipal_II
That makes sense~, but I think there is a certain presumption here~.
That makes sense~, but I think there is a certain presumption here~.